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Thanks all for the responses. A little local knowledge never hurts. A tour guide of sorts can help you get around. Security. Maybe not the best way of saying that. More like a Driver. Been to the Caribbean many times. Always have a Driver and general local 'dude' sorta getting me what I need. First time in Thailand. Maybe not needed? If so hoping we know a local 'good time' Charlie.
Thxs
Zardoz
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I do not agree with this Theory. While I understand that there are market prices (I pay them 90% of the time) you should not forget that you are dealing with human beings and not merchandises.
I have been quoted 1500 ST @ the BG7, but instead of laughing histerically and turning away, I smiled and asked her if she knew that most girls charged 500 ST? She did so I asked her what was so special about her that she would need 1500 and her reply was satisfying enough: She offered 2 hours and 2 pops included, with Everything I wanted. She was Pretty so I paid up and trust me, I didn't regret it.
A good thing to do at the BG7 is to offer the girl a tip if the session is excellent, agree to 500ST + another 500 if she outdones herself, that usually works pretty well (for me anyhow).[/QUOTE]
Right. You only agreed to 1500B after learning it's for 2 hrs and 2 shots.
[QUOTE=Imready777]How on earth can a massage business totally close for a week? Surely they can rotate vacations or perhaps they have all gone en masse to vacation somewhere. I am sure one of our fellow board members will know.[/QUOTE]The Japanese Owner always takes all the girls on a FULL EXPENSES PAID Holiday at this time of the year, usually to a beach location. I am guessing Pattaya or Koh Samet, maybe Rayong?
Very few Owners do that and I think it is one of the reasons why they have a high Staff Retention.
Good for them, these ladies deserve a break once in a while.
[QUOTE=Zardoz211]Thanks all for the responses. A little local knowledge never hurts. A tour guide of sorts can help you get around. Security. Maybe not the best way of saying that. More like a Driver. Been to the Caribbean many times. Always have a Driver and general local 'dude' sorta getting me what I need. First time in Thailand. Maybe not needed? If so hoping we know a local 'good time' Charlie.
Thxs
Zardoz[/QUOTE]
Is Globotto still around? If he is, he sounds like the man for the job.
Guys
Need a little help. I will be in Southeast Asia for the next few months on business in some remote areas and was looking for a longterm girl. Do you know where or any that can travel outside their country and would like to? Any help would be appreciated.
Beken
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you could tell me if the girls at the Beergarden, Soi 7 are normally accepting anal?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Beken]Guys
Need a little help. I will be in Southeast Asia for the next few months on business in some remote areas and was looking for a longterm girl. Do you know where or any that can travel outside their country and would like to? Any help would be appreciated.
Beken[/QUOTE]
Long term girl can be a big mistake. If she knows you're stuck with her in another country she might act accordingly. One obvious option, which is escort services, is the dumbest since you will be ripped-off. They charge outrageous fees. Escort places typically charge 6 times of what you pay on the street, sometimes sending you the same girl you can find on the street that can be contacted on her cell. But in all fairness, high end places have really beautiful women (google and see) but if you are trying to have a girlfriend experience - I suppose it's possible but good luck. If you are on the ground in Bangkok it is easy enough to find a decent looking girl (I don't know what you look like) to want to travel with you. But they need a passport and maybe even visas to some countries, although it should be fairly easy for them to travel throughout S.E. Asia. I would recommend getting a girl in each destination. You get variety, flavor of each location, and less headache. Or else, you need to spend time and money to get to know the girl who fits the bill and will travel with you. For good pick-up locations read the forum.
Can you take a girl to your room in the Legacy Suites Bangkok?
I am staying in Babgkok in July. Its a while since I visited and I normally stay in the Asia Hotel.
However, I thought I would try Legacy Suites Bangkok. Can you take a girl back to your room?
[QUOTE=Tulip777] One obvious option, which is escort services, is the dumbest since you will be ripped-off. They charge outrageous fees. Escort places typically charge 6 times of what you pay on the street, sometimes sending you the same girl you can find on the street that can be contacted on her cell. [/QUOTE]
I'm not advocating or recommending anyone use escort services but to categorize them as 'rip-off' is going overboard. If they are a rip-off, how can they stay in business?
There are certainly times and situations when you need to use an escort service. For instance, if I'm staying at a 5 star hotel and with business associates, can't 'sneak' off for some pussy, I might have to resort to an escort service. Or I'm staying in some location that is 'far' away from pussy, don't have spare time, what better than pay for room service. Just my personal opinion.
But room service doesn't cost 6 times more than what you pay on the street.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
I have been quoted 1500 ST @ the BG7, but instead of laughing histerically and turning away, I smiled and asked her if she knew that most girls charged 500 ST?
A good thing to do at the BG7 is to offer the girl a tip if the session is excellent, agree to 500ST + another 500 if she outdones herself, that usually works pretty well (for me anyhow).[/QUOTE]
I am surprised to hear that most girls charge 500 for ST at the BG7. We know you are a young handsome man and all that, maybe that is why... :D I was under the impression that the going rate was 1000 ST there? To be honest I dont take from there very often (because a current gik has spies there hehe), but whenever I do I am paying a grand sometimes a couple hundred extra if I enjoy myself.
Although having said that, similar to you, I like to take them for 2-3 hours and insist on 2 pops, which is also why I agree to that price.
[QUOTE=Tulip777]AT2. I think you actually made my point. That's where the problem lies. We have to compete with fellow mongers who overpay that 1000B girl in Thailand because they make good money outside of Thailand. I don't see what McDonalds comparison has to do with a price of tea in China, because I'm talking about overpaying for the same thing, not paying more for something more expensive. If enough people pay 1500B to the girls for something they are used to do for 1000B they'll start charging 1500B. [/QUOTE]
The other point that a lot of people fail to acknowledge is that P4P back home is WAY OVERpriced. For some reason over time, the percieved value of pussy has been inflated to a ridiculous level, hence the kid in a candy store reaction most guys have when they get over here. It needs to be realised that pussy here is a realistic price compared to in the US for example. But that does not necessarily make it CHEAP per se, just incredibly expensive and for the most part unaffordable elsewhere. It is a lot cheaper elswhere, Cambodia for example - although I have never seen that first hand. When I hear about guys in the US paying $20 for a lapdance and they cant even touch the girl, or paying $500 for a blow job in Las Vegas or something like that, it makes me CRINGE.
As for the ongoing debate about ruining the market, guys who continually overpay do ruin the market despite their arguments otherwise and their continued justifications to the contrary. It is no different to people who go camping somewhere and litter and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the river. They dont care because it doesnt affect them directly. But when the lure of this country proves too much and they up and leave their home countries to retire here they too will realise the simple truth that living here is not the same as holidaying here and they too will join the chorus of old hands whining about people who overpay.
[QUOTE]As soon as the girls begin to feel like Donald Trump you can kiss good service goodbye. A simple truth: cheap sex is good not only because it's cheap but because it is often better for other reasons which make it cheap or result from it being cheap[/QUOTE]
I agree with this completely.
And one more thing, if I see another idiot in Long Gun slipping a 1000THB note into a dancers bikini...
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]
No offense, but just go for it.
Don't be shy, Don't hesitate. It's BKK.
AT2[/QUOTE]
You are right of course AT2, but due to my personal circumstances I am rarely afforded the oppurtunity to play at those hours. I see her a lot and sometimes talk to her but the timing has never been right if you know what I mean. I have always wondered about her because she seemed so young and inexperienced when I first met her, I guess I really should have taken her back then.
As for her Japanese loving friend, she just doesnt want to know. She ignores everyone unless they are Japanese of course. To be honest I actually find her attitude a little intimidating. Being competely pussy whipped doesnt help matters :D If anyone has any experience with this girl, even a tale about being shot down in flames please let me know. Here is a very bad cell phone picture of her.
[QUOTE=L A Guy]I am surprised to hear that most girls charge 500 for ST at the BG7. We know you are a young handsome man and all that, maybe that is why... :D I was under the impression that the going rate was 1000 ST there? [/QUOTE]Well, the rate they will quote you will always be 1000 for ST, you are correct. However, in order to ensure I get a good bang for my buck, I always offer 500+500 if great performance.
The girl will know she will get the rate she wants and you know you will get the service level you want. Win-win.
As to being Handsome, I am not LOL (I wish), it is pointless anyways since the ladies are working and the only thing that matters is the Baht.
Was at BG7 yesterday and did a survey, this survey was frightening and I will post it here soon.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I'm not advocating or recommending anyone use escort services but to categorize them as 'rip-off' is going overboard. If they are a rip-off, how can they stay in business?
There are certainly times and situations when you need to use an escort service. For instance, if I'm staying at a 5 star hotel and with business associates, can't 'sneak' off for some pussy, I might have to resort to an escort service. Or I'm staying in some location that is 'far' away from pussy, don't have spare time, what better than pay for room service. Just my personal opinion.
But room service doesn't cost 6 times more than what you pay on the street.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. That's how they stay in business. People who have no other options, like you mentioned, or people who don't know any better. I'm talking about people with options, not the guys in the airport hotel with a flight to catch. Many high end escort services in BKK do charge 6000B+ for 2 hours. And with most of them, if not all of them, it's money upfront. Welcome to Los Angeles, NY or London. You can have 1 pop 10 min. drive from where I live for 3700B in local money at a massage parlor. You can do a gorgeous upscale lady, once she knows you, for 6000B (including BBBJ) for 1.5hr in her condo (9000B for the first visit), in a city where an average house costs $1mil+US. At the same time most of the women who advertise their services here asking $400-$500+ are thiefs and rip-off artists. See the connection? I currently reside in one of the most expensive places on the planet, and so when they charge 6000B in Thailand it puts things in perspective for me. Just because some guy from Tokyo thinks with his sushi doesn't mean I have to. Escort services in Thailand charge even more than they do in Europe, relative to the cost of living... and that says a lot.
I think the main thing here is "SOME".
Yes, "SOME" of them try to rip people off with high prices, but they only do it as they can get away with it.
For example, Bangkok Gold uses a flashy website to try and draw attention and take away from the fact your paying an very high price for sex. Sleek marketing is always a sure fire sign of trying to "maximise" the profit. For most escort agencies trying to get 6000 Baht, you'll find the girl will likely only get 2000B. Your putting 4000B straight into the companies profits.
An important thing to do, if anyone is forced to use Escort agencies, is to "not do it".
If your purely looking for a couple of hours of fun and pleasure, then note that NEARLY ALL THE OIL MASSAGE PLACES WILL DO OUTCALL!
EG, for Angels Soi 26, go on their website, get their phone number, you can view the girls on the web site, and outcall is 1000B for 2 hours. Tip for the girl is normal at 1500B for everything, and so, for 2500B you have had 2 hours with an Angel girl, and so you can be sure you are getting a damn good BBBJ and some decent sex.
So, in knowledge that most massage joints will do outcall, why are people paying 6000B for supposed "escort" when the massage joint is offering the same for less than half price?
If anyone is forced into having to use "room service", simply log into the famous oil massage joints web sites, check out the girls you like, make a call, book an outcall, and you get everything for 2500B.
Thats simple really.
[QUOTE=Tulip777]Exactly. That's how they stay in business. People who have no other options, like you mentioned, or people who don't know any better. I'm talking about people with options, not the guys in the airport hotel with a flight to catch. Many high end escort services in BKK do charge 6000B+ for 2 hours. And with most of them, if not all of them, it's money upfront. Welcome to Los Angeles, NY or London. You can have 1 pop 10 min. drive from where I live for 3700B in local money at a massage parlor. You can do a gorgeous upscale lady, once she knows you, for 6000B (including BBBJ) for 1.5hr in her condo (9000B for the first visit), in a city where an average house costs $1mil+US. At the same time most of the women who advertise their services here asking $400-$500+ are thiefs and rip-off artists. See the connection? I currently reside in one of the most expensive places on the planet, and so when they charge 6000B in Thailand it puts things in perspective for me. Just because some guy from Tokyo thinks with his sushi doesn't mean I have to. Escort services in Thailand charge even more than they do in Europe, relative to the cost of living... and that says a lot.[/QUOTE]