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[QUOTE=James Joyce]I now know why Winco is so dismissive of beszamolok and similar Hungarian Websites. It is because they allow us to bypass him as a potential middleman. One of the porn actresses Winco is pimping at a price of 1000 euros for 3 hours is Celine Black. She advertises herself on beszamolok under the name of Barbi. She charges 20, 000 Forints for an hour including all extras. I visited her some time ago, long before Winco offered her services, and I can confirm that she is Celine Black and she offers a true PSE.

Jennifer Morante is another Hungarian porn actress whose services I have availed myself of. This was a couple of years ago, so I have no idea if and where she is working now. At that time she was escorting here in Budapest and charging 30, 000 forints per hour (excluding anal).

So, if anyone still believes a word that Winco writes, then let me just present the following:

- Most porn actresses are not stars and many of them are not beautiful. Just as in the rest of the film industry, make-up and lighting can turn a plain Jane into a celluloid beauty. Winco described Celine Black as a "beautiful Hungarian pornstar". Well, she is Hungarian so he is one-third correct. If he finds her beautiful then good for him. I enjoyed the hour I spent with her, but a beauty she ain't IMHO.

- Winco stated that his services are "exclusive in therms (sic) of the girls who are on offer". He certainly does not offer exclusive access to Celine Black.

- Winco stated abour pornstars: "A price per hour vary, but it's usually about 300 Euro/per hour. But, that's just for normal/vaginal sex. You have to pay extra for cum in mouth, cum in face and especially for anal. " Celine Black is, according to Winco, a pornstar. She charges 73 Euros per hour including come in mouth and anal.

- Regarding beszamolok Winco stated: "I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. " Celine Black aka Barbi has reports of 7 and 10 on beszamolok. Winco has kindly posted a photo of her on this forum. I don't know whether he has touched her with a stick, but he has probably fucked her.

- Just a bit of speculation now, so don't take my word for it. Given that Winco has fucked so many Hungarian porn actresses and has provided us photographic evidence that he knows them, it seems reasonable to conclude that he is a porn actor.

Winco will not reply to this post as he "is not going to waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote. " Because he will no longer be able to defend himself, I have restricted myself to presenting the facts alongside his previous comments, except for my speculation about his employment.[/QUOTE]I'm honoured because it's obvious that I'm your idol. You're following ALL my posts with such dedication. What a porn girl do or don't do is completely her own private thing. So, Celine Black can give it away for free if she wants to. I'm NOT controling her or her private life. And to prove to everybody that what you said about me and beszmolok. Hu is not true, I'll tell to EVERYBODY that 3 more Hungarian pornstars were advertising there(on and off) and they are: Janet Joy, Lolly Blond and Kyra Banks. But, they don't do it anymore for some reason. So, you see James, you're wrong(again), but the amount of hate and malice in you is really astonishing. It's a free world and everybody can do what is best for himself, which means everybody is free not to contact me or do otherwise. The question is, why don't you do what you want and stop attacking me? Plus, as a typical conceited prat, you continue to make all kinds of assumptions about me without any knowledge about myself and even more important you've taken right and liberty to speak for everybody at this forum(more than once), using word "we" very often. Who the fuck do you think you are, a master of the universe maybe? I did answer your post and I'm ALWAYS able to defend myself. Anyway, like I said the time will tell(as always). So, be patient old chap and you'll be able to see is what I said was true or not.

And in a words of Derek Trotter(who is affectionately known as Del Boy):

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[QUOTE=Patranov]James Joyce,

Thank you for your very detailed post. Winco is full of BULLSHIT!!!

I have contacted him through the phone number he put op on the forum. I had some contact wit him and it gets me nowhere. I have asked him numerous times for the exact price of his girls... He has never given me a proper quotation.
Telling me to give him proof that I am in Budapest, only than he can give prices...
Maybe I should post the e-mail conversation in the forum to warn others.

This guy is a Sandbagger, and a waste of space on this forum!

P.[/QUOTE]So, here is for everybody to C. Patranov has insulted me FIRST in his post, (totally unprovoked). Patranov, my dear boy, you're the one who is full of BULLSHIT and you're a first class timewaster. You may have contacted me via email but you never introduced yourself as Patranov(I wonder why?). Yes, do post the e-mail conversation in the forum, but make sure that it's original(I've kept those emails too). I'm pretty sure that I've given you the price of companionship of the girls. Yes, I asked you to prove that you're in Budapest. What part of that is not clear to you? I want to avoid obvious timewasters like yourself. If I'm a Sandbagger and a waste of space on this forum, as you put it so nicely and friendly, why did you even bother contacting me? Many friendly greetings for you.

[QUOTE=El Mujerista]The discussion with Winco et al over the availability of Hungarian pornstars has been rather entertaiing. If someone is interested in a no-bullshit session with a real (former) Hungarian pornstar, I can recommend Veronica Carso, who I spent a delightful evening with a while back. (While in the business, she was also known as Sophie Angel and a few other noms de porno.)

She retired from porn a couple of years ago but now works as an escort from a very nice apartment on the Pest side in central Budapest. You can find full details, accurate pictures and a description of services she will and won't provide on her web site at [url]http://www.carsoescort.com/[/url]. If you can live with these, you should have a good time.

I don't get to Budapest nearly as often as I'd like, but next time I do I hope to see her again. While I understand that posts of this type may be subject to skepticism, please be assured I am simply a satisfied customer and nobody's shill.

Happy Hunting,

EM[/QUOTE]El Mujerista, you're right about Veronica Carso. Yes, she's available for escorting in Budapest, but her services are very limited, but, still for some she can be a good choice. But, why didn't you mention her terms for a meeting? She demands the folowing: your name/surname, your nationality, your age, your mobile phone number, your e-mail address, the name of the hotel you're staying in. Also, she won't answer calls from Hunagrian numbers. Why does she ask all those things? Could it be to avoid Timewasters ? Yes, that's must be the reason. Clever girl.

[QUOTE=Winco]El Mujerista, you're right about Veronica Carso. Yes, she's available for escorting in Budapest, but her services are very limited, but, still for some she can be a good choice. But, why didn't you mention her terms for a meeting? She demands the folowing: your name/surname, your nationality, your age, your mobile phone number, your e-mail address, the name of the hotel you're staying in. Also, she won't answer calls from Hunagrian numbers. Why does she ask all those things? Could it be to avoid Timewasters ? Yes, that's must be the reason. Clever girl.[/QUOTE]Frankly, I don't remember it being that big of a deal. As I said, her services are pretty clearly spelled out. Arranging a visit with her was trouble free, IMO. I texted her a day in advance and it all went together. She did suggest meeting at her apartment since she said the hotel where I was staying was not escort friendly. That was OK, I got the cheaper incall rate and she does have a nice place.

Oh,and by the way, I did contact her on a Hungarian number (I had bought a Vodafone SIM card in Budapest). When we finally met, she was surprised that I had one, but it was never an issue in our communications. One thing punters probably should know is that she prefers payment in EUR, but this is also listed on her web site.

But you are right that she is an intelligent girl who knows her business.

Stay horny my friends,
EM

[QUOTE=Winco]The question is, why don't you do what you want and stop attacking me? Plus, as a typical conceited prat...Who the fuck do you think you are, a master of the universe maybe?[/QUOTE]You posted on October 10th, "I'm not gonna waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote." But here you are, barely four days later, answering what I wrote. I cannot be attacking you if I am writing gibberish. So do you think I am writing gibberish or attacking you?

Your obscenities and insults indicate that you are not happy with my demonstrating your hypocrisy. Could that be because it makes it more difficult for you to deceive anyone on this forum?

[QUOTE=Winco] and even more important you've taken right and liberty to speak for everybody at this forum(more than once), using word "we" very often.[/QUOTE]I have not used the word "we" in any of my posts in this forum. You are confusing me with somebody else - I don't know how you managed to confuse yourself, as you just need to read the name in the top left of each forum post to identify who wrote it. By the way, the left side is where your heart is and the top is where your head is. If you have any further problems, that please ask an adult for help.

Kisses and hugs from your loving friend,

James

[QUOTE=Winco]Thank you very much for counting my reports and for following my activity. To return the favour from now on I'll count all your posts and I'll follow your activity closely.[/QUOTE]Well Winco, it was back in August when I pointed out your activity on this forum and you were not so happy, right?

Now it looks like you have lot of new friends here! You business is going great, isn't it?

Your end is coming man! It's time to get a new job! (or at least change name and forum!)

[QUOTE=James Joyce]You posted on October 10th, "I'm not gonna waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote." But here you are, barely four days later, answering what I wrote. I cannot be attacking you if I am writing gibberish. So do you think I am writing gibberish or attacking you?

Your obscenities and insults indicate that you are not happy with my demonstrating your hypocrisy. Could that be because it makes it more difficult for you to deceive anyone on this forum?[/QUOTE]More difficult for me to deceive anyone on this forum? Ha, ha, ha, nothing new from you: more dirty lies and false accusations. Patience, little one, the truth is stronger than lies and malice and you'll find that out soon.

[QUOTE=James Joyce]I have not used the word "we" in any of my posts in this forum. You are confusing me with somebody else - I don't know how you managed to confuse yourself, as you just need to read the name in the top left of each forum post to identify who wrote it. By the way, the left side is where your heart is and the top is where your head is. If you have any further problems, that please ask an adult for help.

Kisses and hugs from your loving friend,

James[/QUOTE]Oh yes you did, therefore you're liar. And those who lie they cheat too and who knows what else. How can I confuse my nr1 fan with somebody else? C'mon, I'd never do such a thing. Little one, a piece of advice for youon't try to act smart, you're not very good at it(you lack the essential ingridient: a brain). I do understand that you're bitter and pissed off because you're poor, but you should do something about that instead being angry at the world and attacking and falsly accusing people you don't know. And in a words of Derek Trotter(who is affectionately known as Del Boy): What a 42 carat plonker you really are.

Cheerio old chap, I won't hug and kiss you, but don't despare, I do like you.

I came on this thread to find out if Hungary is worth visiting for some fun.

Instead, all I find is a lot of petty, childish insults between members.

Please stick to the point of this forum: to help visitors find out about some good girls at fair prices.

If you want to argue about some pointless issue, please do it via PM and leave the forum to its real purpose.

[QUOTE=Spanish Main]I came on this thread to find out if Hungary is worth visiting for some fun.

Instead, all I find is a lot of petty, childish insults between members.

Please stick to the point of this forum: to help visitors find out about some good girls at fair prices.

If you want to argue about some pointless issue, please do it via PM and leave the forum to its real purpose.[/QUOTE]Budapest is definitely worth of visiting for a lot of fun.Of course,like anywhere if you're a foreigner with little experience and you don't speak the language you may have difficulties to find/get what you want.I can provide you with info how to meet pornstars and non-porn gils too, trouble free.If you're interested check my posts and you'll know how to contact me.You're right about arguing part,but you can check the posts and see who started all this.Some people prefere attacking and falslsy accusing others without any reason and without any proof instead of minding their own business.

[QUOTE=Spanish Main]I came on this thread to find out if Hungary is worth visiting for some fun.

Instead, all I find is a lot of petty, childish insults between members.

Please stick to the point of this forum: to help visitors find out about some good girls at fair prices.

If you want to argue about some pointless issue, please do it via PM and leave the forum to its real purpose.[/QUOTE]Hi Spanish! Be assured that Hungary and the capital Budapest, are good places to have some fun! Regarding Budapest you just have to follow few simple rules and avoid:

- Night clubs (which just rip you off)

- Street girls along Danube but in general all street activity is dangerous

- Girls on Vaci utca, the pedestrian street in the city center,

- Forum's user "Winco" who advertises here his ex-porno starlets for thousands euro, in a city where starting from 20000HUF (about 70, 00 EUR) to max 50000HUF (180, 00 EUR) you can have very very big fun!

Just read back on this forum where there are very good advices from good users! Insults and useless posts started when Winco joined the forum, anyway he is going to give up soon and find a new job!

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Spanish Main]Please stick to the point of this forum: to help visitors find out about some good girls at fair prices.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself, that is exactly what I am trying to do. Winco is offering girls at exorbitant prices and so I believe it is only fair to warn forum users of this, and point out the lower-priced alternatives. If you'd like some specific advice then let us know what information you are looking for - I am sure that at least one of us will be able to answer any questions you have.

[QUOTE=Szex And Roll]Hi Spanish! Be assured that Hungary and the capital Budapest, are good places to have some fun! Regarding Budapest you just have to follow few simple rules and avoid:

- Night clubs (which just rip you off)

- Street girls along Danube but in general all street activity is dangerous

- Girls on Vaci utca, the pedestrian street in the city center,

- Forum's user "Winco" who advertises here his ex-porno starlets for thousands euro, in a city where starting from 20000HUF (about 70, 00 EUR) to max 50000HUF (180, 00 EUR) you can have very very big fun!

Just read back on this forum where there are very good advices from good users! Insults and useless posts started when Winco joined the forum, anyway he is going to give up soon and find a new job!

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Your advices for Spanish are okay. However you did wrote some things that are not true. Pornstars, not ex-porno starlets, about whom I can give info are all active. Simony Diamond, Jasmin Luna Gold/Macy, Debbie White, Nikki Blond, Angelica Heart, Britney/Janny, Jeny Baby, Crystal Crown, Helena Sweet, Cony Ferrara Kyra Black, Virginee are very busy with various shootings for major productions. All this can be easily proven. So, think before you write something. The prices you mentioned(from 70 Euro to 180 Euro) are for totally unknown amateur girls. They can never be compared to pornstars. BTW, the prices you mentioned(from 70 Euro to 180 Euro) are for 1 hour(without extras). Since you never contacted me and you never shown any interest in pornstar girls, it's only natural that you don't know that price for 3 hours of companioship with one of those exclusive girls has been changed and it's 650 Euro(there are no any other hidden costs).

I thank you for your the concern you're showing for myself. But still, it's not nice to talk about me and in my name to other users of the forum. I'm not doing that for you or anybody else.

Dear Winco,

I have been off the forum for a while and surprise surprise, when I log back on, all I see is posts from you and all your detractors. It was entertaining for a while but now it's just becoming boring.

How do you think anybody will take your advice seriously when you are arguing and swearing at so many people on this site now. How many detractors have you got here now ? James Joyce, Spanish Main, Szex and Roll, Patranov and myself at least, and that is only going back 2 pages ! You are really wasting your time on this site now, you seem very young and immature in your agressive and defensive words. By the way, the post James Joice made a couple of pages back was an excellent dismantling of you and your arguments, so please just give up here and go away. I don't know if he used the term 'We' or not, but in your case I agree, 'We' do not want you on this thread anymore.

I have been using this forum for about 8 years and have never been so annoyed about anybody's postings before as about yours, and take no pleasure in my attitude towards you, because a forum should be an inclusive place, but you have done yourself no favours here at all.

By the way, today I had a session with a Hungarian ex-porn star, she was gorgeous, it only cost me 12,000 Forints (about 50 Euro), but she was nothing special and was forgotten about 10 minutes after I left. I am glad I didn't pay you 1000 Euro to meet her, it was just sex after all.

If ‘We’ need help with translation we can use google, if we want an interpreter we can pay some girl to phone other girls for us for a small fee, you cannot charge premiums of hundreds upon hundreds of Euro’s just for this. If James Joyce doesn’t want to waste his money it doesn't mean he is poor, just sensible, a lot of millionaires are rich because they don’t waste money ! And you should stop trying to interract with ‘Us’ because frankly we don’t need or want your help here.