[QUOTE=Turgid;1602625]1) First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective 2) SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, .[/QUOTE]Based only on my own experience, I agree with number 1 and I disagree with number 2.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1602625]1) First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective 2) SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, .[/QUOTE]Based only on my own experience, I agree with number 1 and I disagree with number 2.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602680]I respect you attempt to give examples. Me being a cheap skate and the boldness of your statement- you had my attention. But you have made a statement. Continue to do so and have yet to validate your point. A flight to Medellin cost me about $1300 and 17 hours of flying just to get there. And I live on the southern east of the US close to several major airports. Going to the DR its cost me about 382 and no more than 8 hours round trip. I pay 30 - 40 dollar for hotel if I chose with wifi and hotwater. I pay about $25 per session and get to chose st or ltr. I am not confined to the limited chicas in a casa. I can't complain about service once I apply some basic understanding. There are rules to this sport. I don't do Casas and time limits anymore. You stated much less. Yet you don't show much less. Olkools statement alone said enough. I average spending 120 per day with car, food, pussy and misc. Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.[/QUOTE]I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1602729]I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.[/QUOTE]Now that's a good budget! It does not beat my budget nor support your boastful statement. I quote, "many other Latin American cites will cost much less than a similar trip to SD from any part of the US". You use MDE as an example. That's over $900 pass my norm budget (or $400 base on your price for a ticket months in advance. I don't understand how you can call mongers who take advantage of short flights lazy. When you fly? Hours longer to MDE to sit in a hoe house to point and click from their selection. Their service must be excellent! Since you are basically a casa man, (that's lazy mongering to me) I understand why using game to deal with your chicas may be a problem. I confess I don't really go for the top notch chicas. They are known to be more bark than bite. I will 8 out of 10 spend $25 on a semi pro than $20 on a top notch hard core puta. Metro for $1 is great. I could save that way but I like the freedom of roaming in a car at my will. You say MDE has way hotter and cheaper pro chicas with better service; I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? How much are you paying for chicas, food, and transpo. In the DR? You say budget in the DR is $150. After hotel $90 or more you have $60 or less left for food, chica, transport and misc. The average price in SD in 4000 now. Your penultimate trip was in 2008. That's 6 yrs ago. So I will say 3000 in a casa in SD. I will make it an even 2500 peso even though the US dollar is valued more now 42.3 than almost two years ago 37.4. After your chica that leaves you with about $10 dollar for food and trans. No drinks at the casa I hope, those of us that have been to casas know that robbery. Of course you don't have to explain yourself. I was just trying to let you reel me in on your statements. Wait a Minute! I apologize. I must be honest. I have now found flights as low as $495 with only 7. 5 hours one way and 8. 5 hours back with spirit aa out of ATL. Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! Can any one else elaborate!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602777] I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! [/QUOTE]I was in the DR in May / June, 2014 and in MDE in July, 2014 and my calculations revealed that MDE cost me less per unit time including airfare. It really is a matter of personal taste and I really do not consider another man's budget in coming up with my own and don't expect anyone to rely on mine. Furthermore I would expect that there are mongers out there who prefer DR chicas to Colombianas, it is all subjective. If I found DR pros hotter than Paisas I would probably be a lazy monger and spend alot of time in Sosua. Finally my intention is not to try to get anyone to bite. I am just relating my experience. What works for me cost wise may not work for someone else and vice versa. Also do alot of research outside of this board. I would advise mongers to depend on their own experience as I have always done and if the DR does it for you please continue to go there.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1602632]What's the advantage of small towns? They do nothing for me. I actually prefer the anonymity of cities. Its not so obvious what you are there for. For persons who like the quality of Sosua women and who like the intimacy of a small town then I would think that Sosua would be good for them. I would repeat again I love dark skinned women. Anyway, Curacao, St. Martin and Aruba can be said to be small towns with large numbers of pros. To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations.[/QUOTE]Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?
I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.
Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1602972]Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?
I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.
Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.[/QUOTE]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 – women from all over South East Asia – sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.
I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1602991]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.
I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.[/QUOTE]You stated in Fannie's report "To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations".
You also stated," I believe that if you are not good looking you should at least provide good service which I found to be lacking in Sosua ". Is this not a major difference! And which is it the chicas are not good looking. Bad serves -both.
Since you stated on 5/14 " I have noticed that Sosua is much more lively than when I was last here in 2008. There is just so much more happening. There are much more women and much hotter than back then".
I will go with serves from the pros are bad, but that will contradict your above statement.
Sorry I'm beating a dead horse. You stated you are the casa type and that will explain you lack of success in Sosua. Newbies you'll should know the chicas you want to deal with before you make the trip. If you are a casa man like my man Turgid, go to an area where there are a lot of casas so you can point and click easier. If a puta is not doing her job you can complain to the manager. Though Turgid stated in the MDE board on 6/10 "That's the classic excuse of a puta who does not want to provide proper service. I usually threaten to complain to management when she says that. I refuse to waste my precious leche on a HJ or CBJ. If she insists on HJ or CBJ I usually end the session then and there and do complain to management. Its rarely settled in my favor, however. ".
With the closing of CMP and Passions Sosua is not for you. If you like being on the front line reading, interacting, negotiating and dealing with a lot of semi and pro puta on a one on one; still pointing and clicking; Sosua is your place.
I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.
There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!
Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.
However, the DR really shines when it comes to non-pros. DR girls desperatly want to go out with gringo guys, and they are enthusiastic performers. Dating takes time, effort and Spanish skills, but that's really where the action is. When dating, you can even push it up into the middle or even upper-middle classes. In that case, you get a better-educated companion whose looks don't necessarily go to hell at 25.
Where to meet non-pros? Actually, you can meet them anywhere if you possess decent Spanish skills. DR people are extremely foreigner-friendly and you can always strike up a conversation. If you make a few friends on FB, just look for hot-looking friends and befriend them. When they ask why you are making virtual friends, just say you looked really interested on-line and we share many of the same interests. The hottest seemed to me in cities you wouldn't want to go as a tourist. Like San Francisco de Macoris or Santiago. No problem. They'll offer to come to Santo Domingo to meet you (especially if you offer to pay bus fare).
Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating. The looks go very fast, so get them as young as possible.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1602991]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.
I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.[/QUOTE]There is nothing more tired or less interesting than casa chicas. Their time isn't their own so they're there whether they want to be or not. Their goal is to bang as many separate guys as possible in their allotted time and then punch out an go home. They have no interest in the guys, no interest in their jobs, and as such are less interesting to me. Doing the compound thing like Blackbeards or Field of Dreams is the least interesting type of mongering experience available. You might as well stay home and bang a high priced hooker and save the airfare. It's mongering with training wheels, and it's fine for newbies as it builds confidence and provides a platform to leap from, but the greater and woder experience is only available to those who get out in the world.
Freelancers are a greater risk, this is true, but this is how a monger hones his skills and becomes a monger, by learning how to negotiate and how to screen freelancers. Interviewing is an essential skill and if you do it then 99% of the worst issues can be avoided. Freelancers are on their own time, aren't typically looking to do more than one or possibly (but not usually) two. They don't have to pretend to like you because it's the house rule. They pretend to like you because they want to! LOL.
Every once in a while you'll even find the ones that genuinely enjoy your company. They're not on a clock, they want to have sex with you (sometimes even without payment) and their level of engagement is 500% higher than a casa chica will ever be (at least until she gets out of the casa and makes her own rules. They all do eventually) With non-pros there's an added emphasis on everything I just said, and possibly even a feature or two more as far as the emotional engagement goes.
Casa chicas are great when you've got an hour to kill and you want her to be gone at the end of it, but no one that I'd ever call a monger goes exclusively for the purpose of going to casas. Still, I support everyone's right to their preferences, and will happily concede that what makes you happy is what you should do. No matter what your niche is, never let anyone tell you that you have to be somewhere else. I support a different point of view, but you should continue to do what makes you happy, because at the end of everything, when all is said and done, isn't that the point?
[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]...Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating...[/QUOTE]This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.
Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.
Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.
I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.
[b]BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio). [/b]
-Helpmann :)
There are more than a few Dominicans working the gringos in San Jose, Costa Rica.
[QUOTE=Helpmann;1603090]This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.
Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.
Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.
I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.
[b]BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio). [/b]
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
I think we might agree about something. I find the pricing structure in Medellin much more structured and predictable across the board. Clip joints and tourist only rates in Medellin are rare and isolated. Casa prices in the Centro are all within a few hundred COP of each other. Casas of the next tier up (Energy, Abydos, etc.) don't differ much in price either. Like everything else in Colombia, the scene is more developed and organized than the Dominican counterparts. It's neither better worse in my opinion, just different. Another difference that matters to some is, in my opinion, it's easier for outsiders to make personal connections in the Dominican Republic than it generally is in Colombian cities. Have fun!
[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.
There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!
Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]
Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.
.[/QUOTE]I think this is a good take on SDQ and PC as far as prices. But not for BC, Sosua, SP, LR, La Vega, or Hiquey.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1602625]First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective and for me the women of the destinations I will give are hotter than DR women. Perfect example is Medellin from which I have just returned. The $50 per day hotel in which I stayed (Estadio Real) will cost more than twice that for the equivalent in SDQ. I would rate the women of New Life casa (I paid US $20 per half hour. I did 1/2 hr sessions there) as hot as the women of Casa Teresa (US $100 per hr- no option for 1/2 hr here). Food is cheaper in MDE, [b]Taxis are everywhere, metered and cheap, you do not have to wait as long as 5 minutes for a taxi here). Only the airfare is more expensive.[/b] [/QUOTE]Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.
The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.
Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602680]Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.
I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.
Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.
My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).
So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1603156]Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.
( Now that's some info. Though Turgid was saying different in terms of budget. $800 to $1000 for ticket, $125-$145 hotel, $65-100 for the chica plus $20 for the taxi. Why don't you let her take the $1 metro big balla lol. I found tickets with AA for as low as 495 rt. I am paying $35-40 hotel and $25-30 for chica. Your prices are killing me! lol But that's the norm in SD and ST.)
The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.
Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).
( I understand the headache with working the potential novo angle. I kinda of goes with the non puta ammunition lol.) Olskool always advised stick with semi pros so she will no her exit when the time come with no problem. I do hate the "tienes un novia aqui" from my non pros- because now I have to lie to get the most out of my experience)
I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.
I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.
Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.
My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).
So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?[/QUOTE]
Wow no casa, street walks, or strip clubs- were do these chicas hangout to get their customers from? It sound like you are missing out on possibly saving money and time on flight, the add beach environment and the need for a little game. I am not a SD Vet but you can't be up and running like that in the DR without some planning. Shit even some semi pro don't know when to leave you alone. DR people are never on time and costumer service is not a priority. You are right you do need connects for of good services. Does Mde give you that home town vibe?