Kyiv

[QUOTE=Tomux 22;1333628]/// Dlux, budda is about the worst places I could think of finding a hot dievuska for a night. ///[/QUOTE]Buddha & Dlux are perhaps not so easy but at least you can find there some "hot" girls, if you speak Russian, choose the right girl & know what to say.

I doubt you will find same quality in shooters / vodka bar or local live music pubs.

After getting back and getting a chance to reflect back on my first trip to Kiev, hopefully it might be useful of other newbie's heading out there.

1) Accommodation: Apartment is the way to go, I used Airbnb with the link to the place below which a beautifully restored apartment with a nice balcony, Jacuzzi and a sauna. The best part was it located at next door to a McDonald's and a Metro station where I could easily meet people as I prefer that to letting a girl that I have not met before come to the apartment.

[url]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52676[/url]

2) Strip Clubs: I was disappointed with Rio. We could not get a table as it was a busy Friday night and most of the girls I thought looked like they had a lot of mileage on them. Drinks were expensive as I paid about $140 Gurvina HRY for a Grey Goose on the rocks. Also went to Star Rhino at 11:30 pm on a Sat night and I was surprised how dead it was. I got a dance from a super hot 20 year old who acted more a Go Go dancer then turning me on. She even refused to take off her bottom despite it was suppose to a private dance ($200HRY for 2 dances). I guess such is service in the FSU.

3) Clubs. I hit up Buddha Bar where is seemed it was the playground for the rich American's business type's. Oddly there were more guys then women when I was there on Sat night. Avalon hit it up on the a Wed night with lots of working girls. I always look for a vibe with a girl. For instance if they refuse to have alcoholic drink with me it's a sign as they end up being all business and I usually go with my instinct on this and move on. Took home a average looking 33 year old for $200 but I guess she would have taken even $100 for all night and she did a great job and left at 8am. Went to D'Lux twice and Sky Bar on Friday night. Where face control always make sure to look at my shoes! I found that with a large amount of regular girls on the weekends it was not always easy to tell who was working and who was not. Basically if you add up the cover, drinks, taxi and having a late night since the clubs don't get busy to almost 1am it can be a expensive and late night. 1 night we did get bottle service at D'Lux with a great table right in front of the dance floor, it felt great like I was back in Vegas. Personally I would only use clubs as back up on my next trip. The going rate seemed to be $200 for 2-3 hours for "8" type of girl.

4) Websites. Mamba offered the best value but it really requires and a lot planning and effort. I had a few girls I paid only $200 for all day and night. Best was a 20 year old who never asked for money up front and was eager to please.

Overall: The semi-pro market is what really interests me but that will require a lot of more effort and to build contacts as the amount of quality women is quite outstanding on the streets but it also requires knowing basic Russian. Another website I did use was rabota. Ua which a normal job seeking website where I got a lot response for regular girls who willing to be a English translator for $10 hour. I decided not to go with this option it might have potential in the future.

PY

Had some pleasant days in Kiev and guess I should submit a report. ISG notes and advice help a lot, so keep writing, and start writing, those of you who haven't.

My last day I had planned an evening-date with a 40 yo. Freebie (I already sixty). Still I I was horny in the morning hours and tried to connect to contacts from Mamba, but they were either busy at university or out of town for the day. Took a walk in the afternoon, dressed on purpose like a crazy foreigner, and what do you know? On Basseyna a guy tries to hand me out cards, very discreetly. Asked him if I could see and he took me to meet three girls, but none of who appealed to me, so I gave him 50hra peaceoffering and left. Saved some 600hr there. Waited for my date, went for dinner with her and then into apartment. Made some photos of those endless long legs and still perky tits, which ultimately led to great, endless sex, even when waiting for taxi she came twice! Great girl, fourth time we meet, and I could fall in love with her! She has a regular job and daughter, overnight was not an option.

But this was my last night and I did not want to sleep too much, so at 1 am I went to Avalon, as this is very close. Few people as this was mid-week, maybe 20-30 studentkas and 5-10 older pretty obviously working their way through the night. I went dancing and then had a drink at the bar. Very soon a thirtyish tall amazonian looking girl spoke to me. Real beauty with a body to keep your hands busy, but I didn't fancy her at the time. Regrettably I didn't ask for her phone for later, but her name was Anna (not Anastasia, as I suggested). Anyway, I had already spotted another on the dance floor, even taller student girl, but she had left, so I was on my way out when I met her on the stairs. Quickly established contact and offered her something to eat, as I wasn't sure on what terms she was there. Her name was Jana. 180 and 21yo, she was with a friend. To make the story short, she came for fun in my apartment, total sensation in bed, but very strict on her time frame. Guess that is a good presupposition for practicing dentist, which she said she is studying. She wanted out of bed much sooner than I had estimated. This pissed me off, but I would meet her again sometime for 200 USD.

It never stops to amaze me how many different types of girls you find in Kiev. I am talking about looks. The men all look the same, except some are thin, some are fat and some very fat. And, yes, some are darkhaired, some are grey, and some are bald. But the women, there is a constant wonder. You have typical slavic devushkas with strong face, there are blackhaired and brunette latinas, asian looking girls, you have scandinavian country-girls looking like Claudia Schiffer, voluptous blonds a la Pamela Anderson, there are birdie-like brunettes like Vicky Beckham, friendly-face turkish girl, some look like egyptian queen or greek goddess. There is no end to this, and this is only the outward look, then there are probably more types if you go into the psyche. But basically, all of them come to some stage, and then they want sex. That is something we have to do s-g about! So keep busy.

Hi guys, I need help about mamba. I was member of mamba for 1 year. Never put porn photos, never disturb other people by rude messages. Etc. My profile was blocked about 1 month ago. And after that, I tried to register mamba several times. I cleared cookies, changed ip address even even I used different phone numbers and different mail address to register each time. I can register succesfully. But when I upload my photos, mamba blocks my profile immediately. First I thought the system recognize the names of image files. I changed the names of image files. It doesn't work. Mamba still bans me. Second, I use my new photos. But still, as soon as I upload my own photos,"moderator" rejected my photos and my profile is banned immediately. So I decided to make a test. I found random men photos from google. Even some of them is nude. I uploaded randomly. Moderator approved photos. My profile is not banned. However, as soon as I upload my real photos again, the profile is banned again. What the f*ck? There is anyone to know what is happening? Before I really spend good money in mamba. Some days 50 $ I spend at once. I never make spams. There are many profiles full of adult photos and prostitution and mamba approved them. But my photos permanantly banned. How can it be possible? As I said, I tried to register with different phone numbers, different photos, ip address, different names. Didn't work. Mamba can recognize my face and block my profile as soon as I upload my real photos. i upload my real photos. after seconds, i see that my photos rejected by "moderator" and i got this mesage :

"Some uploaded photos do not meet posting guidelines Unified Dating. Therefore, they have been rejected and some time will be permanently removed from the system. When re-posting photos not meet posting guidelines, your profile may be blocked."

And after that, my profilee is blocked. i tried to register maybe ten times. all same. rejected photos and blocked my profile.

How can it be possible? What I can do to join mamba again? Last time they deleted my profile that I had just upload 100 $. This is really rip off.

[QUOTE=Roll Buzz;1333971]But the women, there is a constant wonder. You have typical slavic devushkas with strong face, there are blackhaired and brunette latinas, asian looking girls, you have scandinavian country-girls looking like Claudia Schiffer, voluptous blonds a la Pamela Anderson, there are birdie-like brunettes like Vicky Beckham, friendly-face turkish girl, some look like egyptian queen or greek goddess. There is no end to this, and this is only the outward look, then there are probably more types if you go into the psyche.[/QUOTE]Many people think that FSU girls are all pale and skinny blondes. They are dead wrong. They obviously know nothing about the history of this part of the world. They also surely never heard of the Tatars, Mongols, Khazars, Turks, ect ect invasions. FSU population is the result of centuries of tumultuous history and mixes. Whatever a look a guy is into, if he doesn't find it in FSU, it is probably that it doesn't exist (granted, save black and meztico). Guys who say that Brasil has the most ethnically various population in the world talk out of their ass. FSU has the most ethnically various population in the world. And as a side note, Uzbekistan is where it is the most obvious.

Please help me. I cannot register mamba. I really can't understand what this is.

Night one.

Enough of the fashion tip stuff – here's the real thing, packed with useful tips for middle aged twats like me who just want to eff pretty gals.

Wiz air from Luton – 12. 50 pm, £150 return. Parking in nearby compound. Because of airport based hassles, had to run to the plane arriving sweating and upset. Hadn't realised new 'one cabin bag' policy meant my shoulder bag had to be emptied out, then was challenged over size of plastic liquid bag. Usual long security queues. I will buy priority security route in next time. At least extra leg room option on plane made it a slightly less uncomfortable two and a half hours.

I stay at Partner Guest House – 19 Baseina St which has been great in the past three years, but this time room a bit pokey. £270 for five nights. Lift temporarily broken – a drag having to walk to my appt on floor seven. Stupid key system locked me out of my room – more panic as I was awaiting a massage girl from Evita at the time– I had used `Dolly 'in the past – very nice but only hand job allowed. I got further with these guys (choice of 2 sevens sent) for $100 and was very happy, although much pissing around with excuses for lateness dragging on and on . Which seems typical and makes timing of taking 150mg Viagra for maximum effect a bit tricky. Had shower and a walk round the town – bought basic food from nearby supermarket on edge of nearby Kreschatic St (Same thug guys hanging about, same sad alkies all over the place) and went back to sleep.

Day 2.

Woke with raging horn and spent ages attempting to find a girl from erotic massage sites. Dolly not answering phone, Evita only speaking Russian, Euphotia messed me about for two hours and I gave up on them– I must have spent a fortune on calls – as couldn't get local SIM card to work. Eventually found the number for 'Best' on this site posted by ClimaxNow in early Sept) , popped 100mg, to be on the safe side and waited 'till they sent a pretty long legged girl for $125. Took an hour and numerous chasing calls to the agency 100 yards away. These girls give true GFE – where do they learn that – to cuddle and look after you so passionately and lovingly, smile at you. If only my ex wife etc. Anyway, thoroughly sorted now. After the morning of passion I am completely despunked and totally relaxed. A pleasant walk about the Arena Amusement place opposite and a salad over the road girl watching. There is no understanding of customer care – long waits for things and defensiveness. The waitresses are better but there seems to be a culture of downright ignorance and aggressiveness from guys here. Back to listen to the news quiz on the computer and a nice milky coffee.

The divisions here are huge and obvious with matt black land rover Brabus and big new bmw x5s on the road versus the have not and never will haves. This is exactly what is happening in the uk with city workers and grubbing politicians

Try this. Simple trick once helped me out: by sign-in, click 'forgot my password, ' and Mamba will ask for your email address you made registration from, send message to it, which you have to confirm. Then Mamba (or their server) will send new password. This did the trick for me, with this new password I could access my profile again. Guess they simply had some trouble in the system and could not respond to all customers.

If not successful, write administration. I think sending money will not help.

[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1334227]Please help me. I cannot register mamba. I really can't understand what this is.[/QUOTE]

I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload different 5-6 photos. But I just don't understand one point : as soon as I upload my photo, systems says me "moderator rejected your photo" this happens after 1 second I upload my photo. How they can recognize me? Many photos. All different places, different clothes. But if I upload another man's photo, system approves it. Even if it is a nude man photo. I asked the moderator maybe ten times, but no answer.

I open a new profile, I upload several photos, my profile would be blocked after minutes. I really don't understand what is this. I don't write anything about "financial support" or something else in my profile page. Even I don't have time to send messages to girls because immediately my profile is blocked. Now I am mongering on vk and loveplanet. Ru I really don't understand what mamba tries to do! I decided to be register mamba with fake photos because all is fine with fake photos. But really it is impossible for mamba to recognize my identity from my photos.

[QUOTE=PlantMagic; 1334443]I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload different 5-6 photos. But I just don't understand one point : as soon as I upload my photo, systems says me "moderator rejected your photo" this happens after 1 second I upload my photo. How they can recognize me? Many photos. All different places, different clothes. But if I upload another man's photo, system approves it. Even if it is a nude man photo. I asked the moderator maybe ten times, but no answer.

I open a new profile, I upload several photos, my profile would be blocked after minutes. I really don't understand what is this. I don't write anything about "financial support" or something else in my profile page. Even I don't have time to send messages to girls because immediately my profile is blocked. Now I am mongering on vk and loveplanet. Ru I really don't understand what mamba tries to do! I decided to be register mamba with fake photos because all is fine with fake photos. But really it is impossible for mamba to recognize my identity from my photos.[/QUOTE]The mamba moderator is probably a girl you didn't call back)

[QUOTE=PlantMagic; 1334443]I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload different 5-6 photos. But I just don't understand one point : as soon as I upload my photo, systems says me "moderator rejected your photo" this happens after 1 second I upload my photo. How they can recognize me? Many photos. All different places, different clothes. But if I upload another man's photo, system approves it. Even if it is a nude man photo. I asked the moderator maybe ten times, but no answer.

I open a new profile, I upload several photos, my profile would be blocked after minutes. I really don't understand what is this. I don't write anything about "financial support" or something else in my profile page. Even I don't have time to send messages to girls because immediately my profile is blocked. Now I am mongering on vk and loveplanet. Ru I really don't understand what mamba tries to do! I decided to be register mamba with fake photos because all is fine with fake photos. But really it is impossible for mamba to recognize my identity from my photos.[/QUOTE]Dear Plantmagic,

Possibly, Pua88 may be close to right. It seems obvious from your descriptions that your face is being recognized by the mamba administrator (s) as a problem person that should be blocked. You haven't told us much of the history leading up to your first being blocked. Perhaps some of your comments and messages were not appreciated by one of the girls who is a member of the site. It really doesn't take much to get one of the prima donna's on mamba upset enough to complain. I have gotten the moderators message about perhaps I was too aggressive in my approach to the little darling, blah, blah, blah and I should rethink my approach or I may get blocked. And this was after a very benign and innocuous message like "are your pictures truly real?". So she hit the complaint switch on me. I'm sure if the moderator looked they would have seen that the uproar by the girl was unfounded. The girl herself continued to talk to me on the telephone. Imagine what would be the reaction if something really assinine was written by some guy. So justly or unjustly they have gotten your number and the moderator wants to block and ban you.

But it's not all bad. Because why isn't it ok for you to use a fake profile picture. The girls all do it. Just select someone that reasonably resembles you. Just make sure to inform whoever you get interested in, very early on, that you have sample photos on the site, but that you are happy to email them your real pictures. I would not tell them the real reason you use fake pictures is because of being banned by moderator of mamba. That will only generate concern in the new girl. Instead, tell them it works best for your privacy to do it this way. Many would argue that using fake pictures on mamba profile is the preferred way, anyway.

LJ

Friday, night 3 of 5.

A nice start to the day at the cafe opposite. Food not so cheap here. Omelette bread and 2 coffees £12. Spent the day dozing, bathing and listening to radio 4 on the computer. I don't really want to wander about this time, it's so humid and hilly and what's to see apart from huge traffic and endless shops and offices.

In the evening, rang salon Evita who promised two girls with possible lesbi action and strap on. Something I have never tried since a near miss in the school library when the bigger boys cornered me fifty years ago. However, I couldn't wait, so opted for a 'kissing massage' from salon Dolly. I asked for a slim busty girl. Roslana turned up after twenty minutes before the 50mg had started to work-not really my type-nicely solid – pictures accurate. No mouth kissing, no pussy eating and no fingering unfortunately-lots of artificial moaning as the elderly gentleman downstairs grew respectably engorged under her ministrations, with a hasty massage to follow the blessed relief-and all for the best part of £43 including a 50gn tip. I can get this in the uk from Bubbles or Vixens without the expense of the fare and so in, but there isn't the feeling of freedom.

One of these days I must have a proper holiday rather than these escorted European excursions for my penis.

[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1334443]I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload .[/QUOTE]Sounds strange. Have you tried to register flirt. Com. Ua, or love. Ujut. Net? Different names but same database as Mamba. You get access to everything, except your contacts from the old account, regrettably. I have been blocked by administration, probably for annoying girls with messages in English when they don't understand much English. Since then, I once got a message from the moderator with the hint that the girl was not happy with my correspondence and I should probably be more careful in my messages. There was IMHO no insult in my messages, the girl probably just lost her nerves and blocked me.

I tried all. Flirt, love. Mail. Ru. All. The result was same. It is about my photo. It is impossible to detected my face each time for mamba moderators. There must be another trick. Maybe a software that aouto detected faces. I don't know. I just understand that I must say mamba good bye forever. I can only be a member with fake photos. But the most strange thing is, I never made anything to deserve permanent ban. I think mamba's policy about mongering changed. They don't like such sentences in our messages " I can support you financially". But again, it is impossible to ban a client permanently. Even facebook is not so strict!

[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1334625]I tried all. Flirt, love. Mail. Ru. All. The result was same. It is about my photo. It is impossible to detected my face each time for mamba moderators. There must be another trick. Maybe a software that aouto detected faces. I don't know. I just understand that I must say mamba good bye forever. I can only be a member with fake photos. But the most strange thing is, I never made anything to deserve permanent ban. I think mamba's policy about mongering changed. They don't like such sentences in our messages " I can support you financially". But again, it is impossible to ban a client permanently. Even facebook is not so strict![/QUOTE]Hello,

If they accept a fake photo, you can upload your real photos in other album (miscellenous Album). And may be after few days or weeks you can try to uplaod your real photo in the main Album, and may be it would work.

Good luck