Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=KcTalent;2587431]You are hired if you accept.

I need your help will pay for your help with 3 important task. I will be in Cartagena, Colom bia on August 10 to August 15 2021.

Task #1 The Law Firm Has put me in the Hyatt not good. I would like you to find me an apartment, just find the name of the contact and let me know if it is great or just good and we will book it with our travel agency top cost under or at $ 100 USD per night. Must have super good Wi-Fi, walk in shower and hot water not just warm, balcony with good view. Not too far from Clock Tower and over night guest friendly. Let me know your cost for this task We will pay 1/2 once you let me know if its good with everything I want and other half once we get it booked after you give the contact information we can send this to you WU that day.

Task #2 you to go to Clock Tower Clubs with me Space, Dulce, Delibum and Marino House one night during my visist but not 1st night. I need your cost for this service.

Task #3 I would like to get with 1-2 of your Young University girls with super hot bodies. Toda la noche your cost of find fee need to know your fee not hers. Paid when..[/QUOTE]Task #1 Is a high possible no. Guest friendly, under $100 per night, hot water, and close to the Clock tower? Good luck on such short notice getting a place like this because every monger would have that place booked 24/7 if it existed. Your only options may be hotels in Boca Grande or El Laguito with Cab rides back and forth to the clock tower for 8000 K each way. I can suggest OZ Hotel.

Task #2 Try to avoid buyers remorse, if you get something from a club, do not exit the walls from the the Clock Tower side jajaja.

[QUOTE=Piupiu;2587364]Hey guys,

I will also start my first Colombia trip in 3 weeks, mongering around mainly in Cartagena and Medellin.

I've never been to South-America (only Thailand etc.), so would be cool to have some cervezas together. I am in my mid-30 is now. I will start my journey End-August in CTG.

I also started yesterday with some Tinder experiments. I am still not sure how to spot women there, that want to earn some extra money.

In TH ist was clearly more obviously. Any clues? Girls only dressed in bikinis? Is there a special Tinder-guide? Can I ask here if she seeking work work like in TH or could this be an offense? Would be great to receive some additional input.[/QUOTE]If they have their Instagram profile listed, or they have their whatsapp number in their profile, or you see allot of bikini pics, or sexual poses, or open mouth with tongue sticking out looking like they are ready to catch the leche, or they have pics of selfies in a mirror where you can see the rear of the phone and in the rear of the phone is American currency, then you know what's up and you can begin with the usual Hola, Como estas? When they reply its usually "bien why tu" and you can follow back with "Muy bien" then ask "Prepargo?" or "Tu cobras?" and they usually come back with "Si" or "Obvio" if by chance you get a "no" then immediately unmatch. If you get a "Si" you next step is to take the conversation outside of tinder and continue it on whatsapp or instagram where you can discuss prices and services. Once you start the conversation outside of Tinder, go back and unmatch them because they can be vindictive and report you, once you get too many reports, they will ban you. I've been there, had to make a whole new Facebook with fake name and a new phone number just to use Tinder again.

You are however beginning talks way too early. Once they find out when you are coming they will most likely say they will wait for you, or see you when you get here, and then they will stop responding to you until you actually get there. I usually start swiping a few days before my arrival date and line them up.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2587377]A lot of girls use it as another avenue to maximize their advising.

Some use it exclusively because they can get the gringo before he lands as opposed to going to the clock tower or the discos to compete with all the other chicas for gringos.

The good thing about Tinder is that you are doing the work before you land and getting into their head to see their personality. You will see which ones are all about the money and which ones are more genuine. Some of the best girls I've had was from Tinder, I make sure in my profile I put they must be under 25, no kids, must have Cedula to enter property.

I'm going to agree with the other poster and suggest Seeking Arrangements as they may be more long term minded.

Right now you have a few options to try and get what you are looking for. OnFireBoy, Seeking arrangement, Tinder, and the Clock Tower.[/QUOTE]Best of luck to those who try to get ahead of the game. I am all for the enterprising girls.

My reservations about Tinder is that it has more than it's fair share of predators and scammers. I suppose the same can be said of other apps such as online dating, but you have a chance to do some online screening, such as reverse google image searches. I also try to get email addresses because you can do "Whois" lookups on the IP address. A few years back I was suspicious of a girl who claimed to be the daughter of Vietnamese asylum seekers. I did a "whois" and the IP had it's own entry beginning with the IP address followed by "Is linked to notorious Ghanain Scammer name. " In short, Tinder does not really allow for me to do any due-diligence before you get into a verbal convo with the other party. When using an online app, I can usually figure out in about 3 or 4 messages, whether I am dealing with a potential scammer.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2585948]I have a trip planned for 28 nights. What are the chances that for 250 k a day, I might find a girl, probably a Venezuelan because of the economic situation, that would be interested in a deal for a month? It would also involve regular shopping trips for about 100 k daily. I believe that GFE, deserves BFE in return.[/QUOTE]- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.

Let me get this in before I block you who cares.... Your attitude you going to get robbed.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2587586]- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nypher;2587458]Task #1 Is a high possible no. Guest friendly, under $100 per night, hot water, and close to the Clock tower? Good luck on such short notice getting a place like this because every monger would have that place booked 24/7 if it existed. Your only options may be hotels in Boca Grande or El Laguito with Cab rides back and forth to the clock tower for 8000 K each way. I can suggest OZ Hotel.

Task #2 Try to avoid buyers remorse, if you get something from a club, do not exit the walls from the the Clock Tower side jajaja.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.

[QUOTE=Dublin12;2587558]I also try to get email addresses because you can do "Whois" lookups on the IP address. A few years back I was suspicious of a girl who claimed to be the daughter of Vietnamese asylum seekers. I did a "whois" and the IP had it's own entry beginning with the IP address followed by "Is linked to notorious Ghanain Scammer name. " [/QUOTE]Whois is for domain name, not email address.

There's a map with all the hotels and places you can stay marked as to whether they're guests friendly or not I'm not sure exactly where l. Find the map someone wants a lot of trouble to I'm not sure who did it hillbilly or world traveler.

[QUOTE=KcTalent;2587679]Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Piupiu;2587364]Hey guys,

I will also start my first Colombia trip in 3 weeks, mongering around mainly in Cartagena and Medellin.

I've never been to South-America (only Thailand etc.), so would be cool to have some cervezas together. I am in my mid-30 is now. I will start my journey End-August in CTG.

I also started yesterday with some Tinder experiments. I am still not sure how to spot women there, that want to earn some extra money.

In TH ist was clearly more obviously. Any clues? Girls only dressed in bikinis? Is there a special Tinder-guide? Can I ask here if she seeking work work like in TH or could this be an offense? Would be great to receive some additional input.[/QUOTE]It's Colombia bro every girl on tinder is selling pussy. You can be in ya mid 30 or mid 70's all they care about is what in ya wallet LOL. Ain't no free pussy in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2587788]There's a map with all the hotels and places you can stay marked as to whether they're guests friendly or not I'm not sure exactly where l. Find the map someone wants a lot of trouble to I'm not sure who did it hillbilly or world traveler.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

[QUOTE=KcTalent;2587679]Thanks Nypher, great heads up information. I was hoping my monger brothers would have contacts they have used that are apartment owners that they would supply me with, but as of today not a one. The OZ I would take but it is sold out for my dates. I don't mind the cab rides back and forth or the cost if I could find something in Boca Grande or EL Laguito no luck yet. I think I will just go back in my bag and pull out a little leverage. Since the agency is sending me emails on places to book as a urgency I have advised them to book it only if my (Fake) co-worker can get in with a late arrival (midnight) without a name until they arrive because I don't know who the firm will be sending. Talked to one apartment manager she said " Okay but only need ID to check in". I think I will try this angel and just hope the chica have her ID since we booked for 2 and already paid for 2. Hope to still hear from brother monger with apartment owners contact information. Thanks Nypher I will avoid the exist from clock tower at all cost.[/QUOTE]Here is where to find the map that Kafka refers to.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2180-Cartagena-Lists[/URL]

Another resource which you should review thoroughly is the "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments" and even if you need to go back a ways, years, do not assume everything changes, not everything does. There is a lot of good info if you study
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2587586]

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.[/QUOTE]Not clear who you're ranting against. So don't be a cheap Charlie, what's the problem? If a girl does everything you tell her, why not give her a little tip? I prefer rewarding a good performance with a small gift, but whatever.

I think what people are telling you is don't throw your money around, and for a good reason. It's not going to buy you love or respect, only ridicule. And in Colombia might very well put a target on your back.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2588027]I think what people are telling you is don't throw your money around, and for a good reason. It's not going to buy you love or respect, only ridicule.[/QUOTE]I would respectfully disagree. I think that you can buy love and respect. Of course, I have no proof. Just like you can "buy" love from your nieces / nephews with gifts, I think you can buy affection from a working girl. Is it real? After awhile, maybe. Some girls will ridicule you, but many girls will not. Obviously, no one knows for sure.

Are there advantages in overpaying? Maybe for some girls. I've had a regular walk across the street to see me (which I don't like). I've had girls tell the cleaner to not knock early. Also, after the first knock, some girls will continue until the 2nd knock. The 3rd knock is when they hustle out the door. Sometimes the girls will open up their menu. Some girls allow pictures. Was it because I overpaid. I don't know. Very hard, almost impossible, to do a double blind test.

Also, I am not ranting against the cheap charlies. I have respect for them. Nothing wrong against paying the market price. I respect Mr. E for paying the local price, although he doesn't mention the fine print all the time. I'm all for saving money. But I just think it's funny when people say that the girls will think you're an idiot if you overpay. IMO, the extra money buys a little more affection from some of the girls. AND it makes me happy.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2588027]And in Colombia might very well put a target on your back.[/QUOTE]I don't go crazy with my money. I overpay slightly. I pay 100 K per hour instead of 70 or 80 K in Santa Fe. Will that put a target on my back.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2587586]- I understand your point of view. I was thinking the same thing, except I was thinking of hiring a girl from Bogota's Santa Fe, and taking her to Santa Marta for 1 or 2 weeks. IMO, Bogota is so much better than Medellin and Cucuta, mainly because of the size of Santa Fe. So much larger, so much selection available. Only thing is if you get a girl from Facebook. It seems that is Medellin scene.

- For variety, I would change the 3rd girl (who I will try to find in Santa Marta) in a threesome. There are numerous advantages of bringing in a known performer. You will have a guarantee GFE with at least 1 girl. It is always hit and miss getting a new girl. Also, even if the hotel is absolutely non guest friendly, you should be able to bring that girl with you IF you check in with her during your initial check-in. Assuming it will be the same for the Airbnb if you add her name when you register.

- I was thinking how much to offer. I'm just guessing, but in 2019 I was talking to a regular. She is decent, above average. On a long day of working, she would at least make 200 K. On a good day, she said she made between 300-400 K. So I'm guessing she normally makes between 200-300 K per day. I was thinking you have to consider what she makes in a day. I was thinking of offering her 300 K per day. Maybe I should save some money and offer her 250 K per day. I wouldn't give her 100 K in gifts everyday, but I would buy her 2 outfits for Bogota and 2 outfits for Santa Marta. I wouldn't want her to dress like a puta when I take her to restaurants and clubs. And then I probably will give her a tip at the end. I have a soft spot for girls who suck my dick.

- People are saying you are overpaying because you are not getting the 2 discounts that are potentially available. The long term discount for 28 days, and the discount many girls will accept being wined and dined at a nice resort. But 1 advantage of paying her full wage everyday is that you can tell her to leave anytime. I would offer her the full wage at 300 K per day for however long I want to keep her. You should always negotiate everything in advance.

- Overpaying is ok for you and her. As I said, I have a soft spot for girls that do everything I say. It is fucking ridiculous when people (here and other threads) say that the girls will respect you more if you pay the local price. Some idiot in the Brazilian thread said that the girl will scoff at you in the room if buy a $10 lady's drink. Ridiculous! How would anyone know! Yes, many girls will talk shit about nerds, nice guys, big spenders. But those same girls will talk shit about the cheap charlies, when those people are not in the room. Absolutely ridiculous if people think that there are advantages in paying the local price instead of a little extra. The real question is, is there an advantage in overpaying. That is the real question! There might be, but it would depend on the girl. For many girls, overpaying probably will not make a difference. (Another thread that should be started). I like to research, find the local price, and then maybe depending on the circumstances, overpay by a little.

- I'm surprised no one brought up the problem you might have if you hire a Venezuelan. Will the airlines and hotel accept her ID? Also, there are ones with papers and without. Will the airlines and hotels accept the Venezuelan without official papers. Is Venezuelan ID sufficient?

- If you have the girl's ID, that should offer some protection of getting robbed.[/QUOTE]In case you are unaware the rest of the "great minds", but fools seldom differ.

Your first two paragraphs reflect much of my thinking and potential planning. I've already checked with Airbnb hosts, and I've had a couple of replies about potentially needing to change girls. One said "OK but you must take responsibility for any guests". The other, "As long as they are of age". Regarding Cucuta, that was perhaps more a whimsical thought. Of course that undermines the false claim by Mr Knows Everything, that I was fixated on Colombians.

But it's good to see someone who doesn't think that giving the girl a good time, is among the mortal sins of mongering. Regarding the price itself, I was not locked into 250 k a day, but in all the circumstances, it seemed a reasonable offer. I'm not sure many girls are likely to earn that amount in that time, notwithstanding the comfort of job security for that period, though I understand that latter consideration doesn't count for much in Colombia. I'd be very surprised if someone doesn't tell you that at 300 k, your overpaying, though you won't hear that from me. It's your money. You spend it how you want. As far as "paying local prices" is concerned, and what the girls may say about you, I can't claim to have an insight into the Colombian mind, but it occurs to me, that you would be right about their disdain for "cheap charlies". The idea that they will respect someone more because they don't overpay seems dubious at best. After all, are they really so opposed to maximising their earnings? Regarding shopping trips, I wonder if you have the same view as me? I consider I have a good eye for dressing a girl, so I choose the outer garments and they definitely look good without looking trashy or sluttish.

I had thought about ID issues, particularly with regard to airlines, and I would have investigates this further before even trying that plan, especially as there appears to be no universal standard as to what is acceptable for boarding an aircraft.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2587708]Whois is for domain name, not email address.[/QUOTE]You are almost certainly right, but being an old git myself, I do have problems recalling the correct cyberlinguistics.