Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1407790]Lighten up Francis. Geez.

Just being funny.

Whether in normal conversation, jiving among friends or on an internet forum, guys that brag on themselves get ribbed a bit.

You should know that, and if you don't, well then you weren't blessed as well with the cognitive genetics as the physical.

Big difference between hating and kidding around.

It's just funny when guys brag about themselves, or maybe it's just funny to me and I'm the odd one lacking good genetics, which is probably the reality of it.

I personally wish you the best and congratulate you on your good genetic fortune.

My simple advice to you; As many guys have learned and posted on this forum, your green eyes will only get you so far, so learn and practice spanish.

All your professed knowing of women doesn't mean diddly if you can't truly comunicate with them.

If you care about PFP only, well obviously it's not as important but still very useful.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the response. Sorry, but sometimes sarcasm is hard to detect on a forum. As far as my original intent goes; even though it can sound like bragging to some I was just trying to give a clear picture of what I am working with. I'm sure there are lots of guys on this board that take care of themselves and can pull normal girls no problem. I was hoping to connect with someone that may share similar attributes and get advice from them and their experiences. Everyone has a niche. Some guys are rich and that's enough to pull hot ass even in the states. I'm not rich so I have to work out.which is free thankfully LOL- and know how to make a girl laugh. Without putting anyone down, I don't really want to go off of the advice from someone that may be older and out of shape saying normal girls are impossible in MDE. So, I hope this paints a better picture.

[QUOTE=Jonesie; 1407835]I'm always baffled at the amount of guys who are looking to pick up non working girls on a mongering trip.

I was talking to an older guy last week who was down for a long weekend. He hadn't bothered learning Spanish, was over 60 and looked every bit of it, and insisted he wanted to meet a college girl and didn't want to pay her for sex.

I understand the desire to have sex with women with less mileage on them. But I also understand reality. I'm early 40's, decent looking and in decent shape, and speak Spanish. But the truth is most 21 year old women want to fuck 21 year old guys. They don't mind fucking older guys if fucking us means they get to buy or do something they wanted that the 21 year old couldn't or wouldn't provide. Not to mention all the time you have to invest in something that isn't going anywhere to begin with.

To me, it's better to hand her the money and say thanks, and start planning the next one. Because between sessions, I'd much rather be sitting by the pool smoking a cigar, bullshitting with the guys than talking about my feelings with some crazy (they all are) broad.

Maybe it's just me.[/QUOTE]I would like to argue this to an extent. True, most young girls have sex with guys their age. But, older men can offer a lot that the young men cannot; maturity, wisdom, intelligence, financial stability of course. I had a friend / coworker a few years ago that still provides inspiration for me to remain single without kids today. At the time, he was a 44 year old personal trainer. He lived a very healthy life mon-fri and partied on the weekends like anyone else. He looked like he was late twenties and was always dating / fucking girls two decades younger than him. Hot girls too. Until he found one that was utterly in love with him 20 years younger. The clientele at the athletic club were almost waiting in line to fuck this guy. He didn't even own a car LOL.

If there is a general rule of thumb regarding this issue, it's that guys can and do date down all the time, all over the world. Granted, there is a limit to everything and an older / heavier set individual probably won't be able to do this unless he's filthy rich. But then again, a 21 year old that is just as out of shape has little to no chance either with any hot girl.

For me, I want to go to a place where I have a good chance of meeting a normal girl and if not, can fall back on p4p. Shit, years ago I had a hot ass girlfriend and sometimes I would still pick up a hooker off the street just for a blowjob because I liked the dirtiness of it. I'm fucked up I know LOL.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1408002]A lot of guys want the real GFE experience and not just some cold fuck.

21 yo girls might want to fuck young 21 yo guys but fact is they would rather be with with a more mature and older guy who can provide the stability that younger guys can't provide. It's just the latin culture.

I don't go on mongering trips just so I can hang out with a bunch of sausages.

To each his own. Do what you enjoy.[/QUOTE]And to get the real GFE experience you need a girl with little or no experience as a working girl. You need to do her at least 10+ times. From someone who lived 3 months a year for 7 years in Costa Rica I never met a girl there that I wanted to have sex with 10+ times not to mention spend a good part of a day with. Now I am living in Medellin 5 months a year for 2 years and have met plenty of girls that are great to be with. There is a real upside if you have the time in Medellin. No upside in Costa Rica.

Most mongers don't have enough time due to their trip length. If you are on a short trip, two weeks or less, forget about the regular girl route. It is simply inefficient if you want to have a lot of sex in a short amount of time. It is just a simple fact that if you are on a short trip your upside is limited. This does not mean you can't have a great trip with a short amount of time. Your personality and ability to get respect from these girls has a lot to do with your overall experience.

From a guy with a paisa girlfriend, one thing that is nice about a working girl is THEY WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE if you ask them to.

Have fun and enjoy these beauties, irregardless of how you meet them.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1407948]Folks, to make you forgive me, Valledupar is where to go end of April to listen to the best VALLENATO (for whales, there's another place)

[url]http://www.colombia.travel/en/international-tourist/sightseeing-what-to-do/history-and-tradition/fairs-and-festivals/april/festival-of-the-vallenato-legend-in-valledupar[/url]

A girl I know, who works in Cartagena, is going to be back home to Valledupar end of this month. She told me she does not plan to be back working to CTG. It's a period of her life which ended. Maybe Vallenato's call?[/QUOTE]Valledupar is full of hot women, and few if any gringos go there. Have met a few that live in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1408023]Appreciate the response. Sorry, but sometimes sarcasm is hard to detect on a forum. As far as my original intent goes; even though it can sound like bragging to some I was just trying to give a clear picture of what I am working with. I'm sure there are lots of guys on this board that take care of themselves and can pull normal girls no problem. I was hoping to connect with someone that may share similar attributes and get advice from them and their experiences. Everyone has a niche. Some guys are rich and that's enough to pull hot ass even in the states. I'm not rich so I have to work out. Which is free thankfully LOL- and know how to make a girl laugh. Without putting anyone down, I don't really want to go off of the advice from someone that may be older and out of shape saying normal girls are impossible in MDE. So, I hope this paints a better picture.

I would like to argue this to an extent. True, most young girls have sex with guys their age. But, older men can offer a lot that the young men cannot; maturity, wisdom, intelligence, financial stability of course. I had a friend / coworker a few years ago that still provides inspiration for me to remain single without kids today. At the time, he was a 44 year old personal trainer. He lived a very healthy life mon-fri and partied on the weekends like anyone else. He looked like he was late twenties and was always dating / fucking girls two decades younger than him. Hot girls too. Until he found one that was utterly in love with him 20 years younger. The clientele at the athletic club were almost waiting in line to fuck this guy. He didn't even own a car LOL.

If there is a general rule of thumb regarding this issue, it's that guys can and do date down all the time, all over the world. Granted, there is a limit to everything and an older / heavier set individual probably won't be able to do this unless he's filthy rich. But then again, a 21 year old that is just as out of shape has little to no chance either with any hot girl.

For me, I want to go to a place where I have a good chance of meeting a normal girl and if not, can fall back on p4p. Shit, years ago I had a hot ass girlfriend and sometimes I would still pick up a hooker off the street just for a blowjob because I liked the dirtiness of it. I'm fucked up I know LOL.[/QUOTE]atTrace: You previous comment about your basic description and was met with jeers and some haters. You have to understand and you will once you see 85-90% of the gringos down there are. How can I put this? You ever see the evolution chart where it's the fish then the monkey then the cave man and then modern day man? Well for the Mongers here on this board and the ones that live in Mede are the cave man and then move back in some cases! Hhahhaha! I'm in ok shape and in my early 30's but when I'd down in Mede chilling with or near some gringos I feel young and in shape! If I was taller I'd be considered more of a threat (my own personal hang up and an actual observation) You being Tall, Youngish, Light Eyed, In shape, and cool. Well you're their worst enemy!

Also it's a known face "opposites attract"; so for a darker featured culture such as Latino and Asian a lighter skinned culture with light eyes is EXOTIC and it's what they want. The EXACT same way white guys LOVE latinas and Chinitas! Because it's different! I was down in Bogota and Medellin a few years ago with a college buddy from Texas: He's very tall, blond hair (sort of brownish as we get older but still a blond) has them movie star blue eyes, and being from Texas spoke solid Spanish. He Killed it with the non pros! KILLED IT! Every girl would say to him or to me "Q Lindo los ojos claros" which more or less means "oh shit look at how blue your eyes! Let's fuck!" hahhahahh! He too was also a very cool guy, kind, and lots of fun to be with so this sounds like the road you're on.

The last thing: the story quoted above about the Personal Trainer guy. Break it down: He is in fantastic shape and has s cool job that requires him to be personable, high energy, fun, and interesting. These are the traits that girls both young and old gravitate towards. Doesn't matter if he's closer to 50yrs than 30 yrs it's who he is vs what he has so who cares if he doesn't have a car! Most older guys work in an office and spend their time making money talking to other guys so that's all they have to offer. It's how you live not what you have. But if you can find a way to have both?

Be cool, be kind, be fun, DON'T be cheap and you'll do better than most because most in life are clueless.

OMG, so much time is wasted trying to take a working girl and make her into a normal? Colombiana. Also finding a so called normal colombiana and making her into your personal sex kitten. Got to go with Greg on this one although he may be a lttle high with the 99% puta estimate. All you lose in Colombia is your turn, maybe a little of your macho ego on a realith check. Wonder what a "regular" guy is doing on a monger forum? Need to open a new place in Cartagena,"PUTOS"

Prepago you can turn into normal girl.

Normal girl you can turn into personal sex kitten.

If you are a long-term guy, living months in MDE a year or offering her to come to your country.

Sex kitten, yes because competition from other girls. Plastic surgery can give a normal breast / lips / ass / abdomen girl a huge advantage and selfesteem if she get heer surgery. Thus she is prepared to become your personal sex kitten, if your lucky she stays with you.

Colombianas / os are so much different in their basic mental view on sex and looks compared to Anglo-Saxons.

We claim superior moral, then we go home and watch porn.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1408189]OMG, so much time is wasted trying to take a working girl and make her into a normal? Colombiana. Also finding a so called normal colombiana and making her into your personal sex kitten. Got to go with Greg on this one although he may be a lttle high with the 99% puta estimate. All you lose in Colombia is your turn, maybe a little of your macho ego on a realith check. Wonder what a "regular" guy is doing on a monger forum? Need to open a new place in Cartagena,"PUTOS"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trace79;1408023]. Everyone has a niche. Some guys are rich and that's enough to pull hot ass even in the states. I'm not rich so I have to work out.which is free thankfully LOL- and know how to make a girl laugh. Without putting anyone down, I don't really want to go off of the advice from someone that may be older and out of shape saying normal girls are impossible in MDE. So, I hope this paints a better picture .[/QUOTE]That is exactly right.

Everyone has a niche.

Every poster has their idea of what works and is of most importance for picking up NPs, and every guy is right, because in reality it's different for all of us.

Personally, I enjoy both worlds.

I love to flirt, pick up a NP, have fun.

I also love to dabble in the PFP, and even with the pros, I like to flirt and bond with them too.

To each their own.

Enjoying life.

Trace's niche is trolling.

My wingman and and I recently spent 10 days in Medellin. This was the first trip to Medellin for both of us. We flew to Cartagena yesterday and we plan to go back to Medellin Wednesday for another 4 days of mongering before heading off to the US.

We arrived in Medellin smack in the middle of Easter week. Unfortunately, none of us had tought about that when we made our reservation. Luckily, we stayed at the hotel Medellin Plaza (otherwise known as the Mansion & Castillo) and that made a big difference for us. Since most commercial establishments were closed part of the week, there were quite a few Free lancers (FLs) at the mansion, and we ended up feasting on FLs.

We did manage to venture out and that's what this report is about:

San Diego strip club: went there on a week day, think it was Wednesday night of Easter week. I was not impressed with the line up at all, esepecially given that they wanted us to pay 10k each or have 2 drinks for 20k. My memory is fuzzy but it could have been the other way around. We chose to stay and have a drink. The place was dead, at around 10pm and I was not impressed.

Ejecutivo: After San Diego, we headed to Ejecutivo strip club. The place was hopping, full of customers and full of girls. We were tired that day, so we did ot do anything. We went back the following Saturday and we both did a chick for 30 min. Mine was Lorena, and I think it cost me 85k, plus the drinks that she had while sitting with me. I liked Lorena. She had a gorgeous figure and a gorgeous smile, although she was on the plump side. Unfortunately, the session did not match the looks. It was average at best.

Maracaibo strip club: since this club is next door to Ejecutivo, we just took a peak but did not stay there for long. The place seemed busy, but not like Ejecutivo.

Fase II: this visit was part of our high end strip tour. I was not too impressed with this club. There were close to 20 chicks, and I would say that only 4 or 5 would qualify as high end in my book. The place also looked relatively old and can use some remodeling. I did learn later on that Colombian men tend to prefer chicks that have some meat on them, I. E. Plump. In that case, my opinion does not count for much since I am just a visitor.

La Isla: This was our next stop and this place was impressive. The facilities were fairly modern, and the view was stunning. I did not want to leave. However, it was the same story as Fase II for the girls. Most of them were on the plump side. Also, there was some police activity that night, and we were approached by a policeman. I normally carry a copy of my passport but I did not have it with me that night. When he asked me for my papers, I replied in Spanish that I was from the US. He then just moved on.

Luna Lunera: this was our last stop for that night. This was my least favorite of the three. The music was too loud, and the place was small. The girls were very aggressive. I was quoted 175k for a 30min session, pretty much the same as Fase II and La Isla. I was not ready to pay that.

Casas: I had a tour of some of the casas in El Centro. I saw a gem at Zandaly but I already forgot her name.

The best casa, IMO, was New Life. They had an excellent line up and provided the best bang for the buck. 38k for a 30 min session, hard to beat that. I saw 3 line ups there and I was able to compile a list of 6 or 7 chicks that I liked. I also had sessions with Lisette and Anna, and I could not have been more pleased.

I also managed to pay a visit to Energy, and had a session with Sara. She was an adorable, pleasant spinner, eager to please, and very friendly. However, their line up did not measure up to New Life, IMO. The cost of the session was 110k I believe.

Other than mongering, I really enjoyed my time at Medelin, in particular El Centro. I grew up in a city similar to Medellin, so I felt right at home. Even at night, I felt very comfortable roaming the streets. The people were friendly and helpful. I will definitely go back. My wingman had a private tour of the Escobar story. I decided to pass.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1408145]atTrace: You previous comment about your basic description and was met with jeers and some haters. .

Be cool, be kind, be fun, DON'T be cheap and you'll do better than most because most in life are clueless.[/QUOTE]Slam, I was going to write a response to Trace's post but you hit the nail on the head. Very well said. We need more classy and balanced responses like this to keep the forum interesting and pleasant.
[QUOTE=Trace79;1407223]I remember reading this but can't remember what the prices were after cutting out the middlemen / multa. Plus, how available are these girls to cut out of work for a day or two on short notice? [Also remember reading about this but don't know if it was in some thread in Colombia or DR. The mind escapes. ] As far as morals. I still have them. Can't deceive or promise a girl the world just to get in her pants. If I'm paying for her time, she knows it and does so on her own accord. I still try to treat them as human beings and it sometimes grants me a better short-term GFE.

Ok, Short of perfect Spanish I am just about these things; green eyes. 6'2" 230lbs and fit, at 34 years old I know how women think and can still pull girls in the states, young twenties, no problem. Humor 'es en ingles' so my Spanish is my Achilles heal right now but this is temporary.
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Trace, All I would add is this: You will probably have good luck with non-pros in MDE but you still need to plan for it. If you just go to a mall and try to charm a non-pro the return on time investment is going to be low, even with all your positive attributes only because you are a foreigner and your spanish will be mediocre at best. Since you said you would not mind being with pros, my suggestion would be to start with Colombian Cupid and Romance latina. Post your best pictures and with your profile, you should have loads to choose from. If they do not work out, you can always the pro route or attempts at picking up at bars.

Also, I do not agree that vast majority of Colombianas are pros. I agree with BlancoVikingo. It is their liberal attitude toward sex, evaluated through a prudish north american lens makes us think that.

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1408023]Appreciate the response. Sorry, but sometimes sarcasm is hard to detect on a forum. As far as my original intent goes; even though it can sound like bragging to some I was just trying to give a clear picture of what I am working with. I'm sure there are lots of guys on this board that take care of themselves and can pull normal girls no problem. I was hoping to connect with someone that may share similar attributes and get advice from them and their experiences. Everyone has a niche. Some guys are rich and that's enough to pull hot ass even in the states. I'm not rich so I have to work out. Which is free thankfully LOL- and know how to make a girl laugh. Without putting anyone down, I don't really want to go off of the advice from someone that may be older and out of shape saying normal girls are impossible in MDE. So, I hope this paints a better picture.

I would like to argue this to an extent. True, most young girls have sex with guys their age. But, older men can offer a lot that the young men cannot; maturity, wisdom, intelligence, financial stability of course. I had a friend / coworker a few years ago that still provides inspiration for me to remain single without kids today. At the time, he was a 44 year old personal trainer. He lived a very healthy life mon-fri and partied on the weekends like anyone else. He looked like he was late twenties and was always dating / fucking girls two decades younger than him. Hot girls too. Until he found one that was utterly in love with him 20 years younger. The clientele at the athletic club were almost waiting in line to fuck this guy. He didn't even own a car LOL.

If there is a general rule of thumb regarding this issue, it's that guys can and do date down all the time, all over the world. Granted, there is a limit to everything and an older / heavier set individual probably won't be able to do this unless he's filthy rich. But then again, a 21 year old that is just as out of shape has little to no chance either with any hot girl.

For me, I want to go to a place where I have a good chance of meeting a normal girl and if not, can fall back on p4p. Shit, years ago I had a hot ass girlfriend and sometimes I would still pick up a hooker off the street just for a blowjob because I liked the dirtiness of it. I'm fucked up I know LOL.[/QUOTE]Who cares about your friend this board is dedicated to P4P.

You need to quit staring in the mirror and telling yourself how pretty you are. Just because you banged a new to the scene SEMI pro in Sosua doesn't mean you can pick up none pros at the drop of the hat. (I'll be in Sosua next week; I'll look your girlfriend up at her bar and see if I can make a donation to her favorite charity) If you want to find none pros you should join another board somewhere that deals with young attractive people and the night life in Medellin, make friends on that board, go down there and try to meet and swoon none pros in the none pros areas and discos. (and see your bubble get busted)

If you are looking for P4P than this is the site for you because the information on boards like this are about how to find P4P action. I will be in Medellin for the first time this August, staying at the mansion and I have NO illusions of picking up and bedding none pros, isn't going to happen, and I'm so damn good looking, If Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise could get together and have a baby I'm what it would look like.

(Bola Bola)

The information here is / should be about where to find, how much to pay, where to stay, how safe it is, quality and quantity of P4P action and nothing else. If you want dating or night life none pro information you should join another board.

Chris

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1408145]Also it's a known face "opposites attract"; so for a darker featured culture such as Latino and Asian a lighter skinned culture with light eyes is EXOTIC and it's what they want. The EXACT same way white guys LOVE latinas and Chinitas! Because it's different![/QUOTE]That's actually pretty funny. I am Black, and any Black Colombiana I try to talk to (via internet) I just get ignored. Even when I mention that I am American.

On the flip side, most of the Colombianas on my fb friends list and the ones that hit me up to chat are pale White. I even have better luck with darker-skinned (but not afro) Colombianas than I do the Black ones. Go figure, LOL.

This isn't a problem for me in the DR (Black chicas), by the way. I've also "tested" my luck with Cali and CTG afro-Colombianas and have a better response rate. What's up with Medellin, lol?

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1408354]Who cares about your friend this board is dedicated to P4P.

You need to quit staring in the mirror and telling yourself how pretty you are. Just because you banged a new to the scene SEMI pro in Sosua doesn't mean you can pick up none pros at the drop of the hat. (I'll be in Sosua next week; I'll look your girlfriend up at her bar and see if I can make a donation to her favorite charity) If you want to find none pros you should join another board somewhere that deals with young attractive people and the night life in Medellin, make friends on that board, go down there and try to meet and swoon none pros in the none pros areas and discos. (and see your bubble get busted)

If you are looking for P4P than this is the site for you because the information on boards like this are about how to find P4P action. I will be in Medellin for the first time this August, staying at the mansion and I have NO illusions of picking up and bedding none pros, isn't going to happen, and I'm so damn good looking, If Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise could get together and have a baby I'm what it would look like.

(Bola Bola)

The information here is / should be about where to find, how much to pay, where to stay, how safe it is, quality and quantity of P4P action and nothing else. If you want dating or night life none pro information you should join another board.

Chris[/QUOTE]This board is about SEX! Whether you like pros or non pros. To each his own. I am sure that most members like to do both and have valuable information.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1408189]OMG, so much time is wasted trying to take a working girl and make her into a normal? Colombiana. Also finding a so called normal colombiana and making her into your personal sex kitten. Got to go with Greg on this one although he may be a lttle high with the 99% puta estimate."[/QUOTE]I get amused at the youth vs maturity (implicitly including some wealth) discussion that occasionally becomes a topic of conversation here. And we have the ubiquitous "normal," "semi-pro" and "pro" distinction, made without the benefit of any definition. Greg opines from India or where ever he is this moment watching of all fucking things. Cricket, that 99% of the Colombian girls will trade sexual pleasures for money or monies equivalent. I think Greg is about 1% shy of being correct. Women trade sex for security. All women! Including yo mama. It's just biology.

All women want security and protection. All men want respect, attention, appreciation and affection. Don't kid yourself, women are not nearly as visual as men are. There is not a girl in any casa that would not prefer to have one man provide for her security and protection. But, some choose to sell what they have to offer for a few pasos for medio hora or mas. The so called "normal" girls are certainly more attracted to the young, handsome and virile men. But, they're looking to pair bond. They want a "relationship." The fact is that if you treat any of these women like sex workers, you will get a sex worker. There is no such thing as free sex; they all want something other than a hard dick.

Sex with a beautiful girl is easier to get in Medellin than a decent pizza. A whole lot easier. Even with the obvious "pros" Ricker says that he like to create a bond. That makes sense to me. What I think most of us really want is intimacy. There's nothing like sex with a girl that wants to give you great pleasure because when she wakes up in the morning, she is thankful that you are in her life. At bottom, the notion of bonding requires just a little give a shit about someone else's life. All that requires communication and if you don't speak Spanish, that's kind of hard.

Take a little interest in these beautiful little Paisas, and your being a benefit in their lives will be rewarded. Bond a little, or at least try, with all of them. Most are not only receptive, they need and want a little interest, a little compassion, a little concern, a little love. Surpress the ego. It doesn't always have to be about you!

Only good energy, remember?

LT, the readers digest version "Men want ASS, women want ASSets"