Jakarta

[QUOTE=BuleBusiness;2008740]Returning to the Mulia after about a four years, any change to the walk of shame procedures?

I remember always having to walk the girl out to the taxi rank otherwise Security would hit them up for cash.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed in the last 15 years, let alone the last 4. The only change is the price has increased.

There has been a lot of talk about looking for free lancers up north. Hopefully some of you gents will share some photos of your conquests.

Hello bros,

I was in happening Jakarta recently and thought I share my reports in meeting the local beauties.

First I will start with the bad:

Classic Level 2.

Not sure if many know of a young slim short girl with great rack by name of "Okter" or "Octa", when you walk in she is part of the group in the far right wall at the back.

Anyway I went there with her in mind but she was not around.

Pushy masman lady said she had Ockta#2, and she showed me two. Can't remember names.

Took the first one, she was young, short, big rack, wore a white head band and had a few tattoos but spoke no English.

Yet straightway in room I found out why I shouldn't be going back to Classic level 2. Her service was okay but there was a strong Vag smell, no doubt some bad bacteria done there!

I fucked her all the same.

Did a couple of different positions and finished off but she didn't want to provided CBJ cause the condom (which we took straight out of wrapper) had too much of a smell for her! . really the condom is what's smelling too much? I think she was trying to cover up her own bad vag.

Anyway was done with her within 45 minutes, of course she asked for tip and I gave her 80 k.

But I not satisfied and then took girl#2 about 30 minutes later.

Can't remember name but again early 20's, short and slim. But yet again vag smell. Damn it!

Yet this one was strange girl and just put me totally off. First she had baby scars and recent baby tummy and then didn't want me to see her pussy and kept covering it with her hand, which just sort of freaks me out cause I wonder what she trying to hide!

Anyway she told me through google translate she has "shame" of showing her vag and prefer not to show it. I wasn't about to stick my little bro into unknown territory so I made her give me a BJ but couldn't hit it cause just not in mood, that lasted 30 minutes.

Of course she also asked for a tip, this time I declined.

Again I not satisfied.

Decided to grab a girl from another section and found Leea.

When you walk in and face the men's room, she sits in the first group on the right of the men's room.

She had a really great rack but was reluctant in letting me suck on it till she got in the mood and then she was pushing her tits in my face!

However, the curse of Classic Lvl2 was back as YET again bad vag smell. Danm it classic get your girls some anti-bacteria creams!

But after two failures I just wanted to smash something and she was more and more up for it as time went on and we fucked in multiple positions. Her doggy was awesome seeing her big tits jiggling whilst bent over!.

Of course she asked for tip and gave her 100 k. She asked I come back next day and said I would.

However, I didn't go back cause the bad vag smell I found out is not an issue in the next couple places I visited. Illegals and Classic lvl 5 which I will report next.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;1991520]Starting to map out my Jakarta visit for next month and in addition to a little of the usual 'fun' I'm interested in trying Tongkat Ali, which is a natural 'male performance' (aka testosterone booster) herb common in south-east Asia, mostly Indonesia & Malaysia according to my research. Do any of the Jakarta regulars here know of this stuff and more importantly, can they suggest any specific places where it can be bought? I'm uncertain if this is something common at pharmacies, local versions of those 'Chinese herbal medicine' stores or simply some little 'hole in the wall' chemists (like the one in HKG from whom I buy Cialis).[/QUOTE]Junior needs help. So I would also like to get some. PM me if you wish to keep confidential. I will be in Jakarta next week. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2010461]Junior needs help. So I would also like to get some. PM me if you wish to keep confidential. I will be in Jakarta next week. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tongkat Ali is available abroad. It is distributed in capsules with the crushed herb, but the extract from the root, in liquid form is said to be the best. I've ordered it over Ebay, but it can be found on Amazon. Basically, it boosts your testosterone, so it is not like an herbal Viagra. Rather, it is supposed to assist your general condition by improving your hormonal balance. Body builders and other people involved in athletics take it, as well, because it assists in building muscle. I took it a couple of weeks before my trip to Thailand, and I do think it helped. However, it is something you need to take over a period of time to benefit from.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2010469]Tongkat Ali is available abroad. It is distributed in capsules with the crushed herb, but the extract from the root, in liquid form is said to be the best. I've ordered it over Ebay, but it can be found on Amazon. Basically, it boosts your testosterone, so it is not like an herbal Viagra. Rather, it is supposed to assist your general condition by improving your hormonal balance. Body builders and other people involved in athletics take it, as well, because it assists in building muscle. I took it a couple of weeks before my trip to Thailand, and I do think it helped. However, it is something you need to take over a period of time to benefit from.[/QUOTE]Every pharmacy in Malaysia has different types of this. Creams, pills, liquids etc. Malaysian in their shy innocent and sexually unadventurous way all giggle like schoolboys if you mention Tongkat ali. Very freely available. Didn't do anything for me after using for one month.

Despite several successful prior visits to Jakarta, this time I decide to try the guiding services of Jakarta After Dark com. I was reluctant considering the price, $200, but after some research and recommendations from other seniors on the forum decided to take a chance. The tours are provided by an experienced Indonesian gentleman with a graduate school business education who has lived and mongered in Jakarta for 20+ years he is well-known and recommended by many of our senior members on the Jakarta forum. You can see some of the details of his experiences, and find means of booking his services, on his website: [URL]http://jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL] (look toward the bottom of the very long home page for these details). There were also some posts in the classified section of the Indo forum about him.

My primary interest was exploring off-the-beaten-path places that I might not otherwise have found on my own. Contacting JAD was easy, but he is not super responsive to e-mails since he only checks once a day. I opened a fake g-mail account to communicate just to be cautious. After a few exchanges of messages in which I told him my schedule and interests, he asked for confirmation of my hotel reservation. I was a little put off by this since I consider that confidential. He asks for this because he has been burned in the past by people making bookings and then not showing up after he has blocked time and traveled to meet them. Eventually I got comfortable with this based on feed-back from others. After confirming my hotel reservation, he confirmed the appointment and provided his mobile number in a final e-mail before I left my home country.

On arrival at the airport I got a SIM card and let him know I was on my way. We met at my hotel in the early afternoon and we quickly scouted several free-lancer locations where independent networks of mamasans and girls work at various hours of the afternoon. These were in North Jakarta. The first couple of locations were unknown to me and mostly seemed to be near hotels on side streets. But no action at 4:00 pm there. I didn't note the exact locations but JAD said this area was most active around 2:00 pm.

A much superior experience was obtained by a visit to Lokasari Plaza at 4:30 pm. Lokasari is a well-known to long-time JK mongers as the former home of Town Country / Tiara Ceria. These places have long closed. JAD has known many of the mamasans here for more than 10 years he and was able to guide me to several networks. The most productive was an old woman who sits on the outside tables of the KFC. She had several girls of interest and I selected one before being escorted by her to the FF Hotel where 3 hour rates cost 200,000. (6 hour and overnight are also available). The girls normally charge 300,000 but the 18-year-old I wanted insisted on 400,000. Which considering the exchange rate, was acceptable to me.

While her young firm body was stunning, her service was lackluster. Still I enjoyed the session. Then the girl asked me if I'd like to meet her friend. I asked a few questions about her and then said yes as in the past, the meet my friend connect has been very good. We exchanged numbers and she promised to contact me. As I said good by to her and prepared to get myself dressed, there was a knock on the door which, wrapped only in a damp bath towel, I opened to find another mamasan (unclear if she worked for the old lady or was working here own game) At her side was another young lady who she offered for 300,000. She was a little chubby to my taste, but the innocence of her smile and the immediate convenience won me over (I'm nearly naked, the bed is 2 meters away, the girl is ready to go and the price is ~$25) and I agreed to take her for spin and see how it went. This was a great, long session with a fresh young 18-year-old who seemed at first reluctant but as the minutes went on, grew increasing horny herself and judging by the extreme moaning seemed to enjoy, or accept at least, being aggressively fucked for 20 minutes in a variety of positions. I paid her 300 k (plus 100 k tip) and left the room, dropping the key at reception.

JAD then took me south to a mall where he indicated, we might find other networks of women and girls, but after walking the whole place, found nothing of interest. JAD said this was a good spot at 3:00 pm to 5:00 pm, but we were too late.

Still "hungry" I wanted to return to Lokasari for a late "snack". Along the way we stopped at Travel Hotel, a place I had not visited before, which had some very attractive girls and was offering 1 girl (inclusive of a nice room) for 350,000 or 2 for 550,000. I considered a stunner with a tight red dress but wanted to look further. This was a mistake as she was the hottest to my taste in the place and by the time I returned, she was taken. I tried a new 18-year-old who claimed to have been working 6 months. SHe had decent looking tits and was a little fat, but not too bad, with fair skin and short black hair. The room was very large, clean and comfortable. Unfortunately, the service was very bad with the girl only offering 3-minute blow job, which she tried to insist be CBJ and with great difficulty I was able to obtain as BBBJ. She had a dozen rules about no fingering, not sucking on her right nipple, no touching the back of her head, etc. The rest only got worse so I banged her hard a for a few minutes until her "black-face" turned me off and I left the room unfulfilled. Probably should have complained to the front desk, but these girls have hard lives and I don't know what her backstory or prior experiences were. I expect she won't be working there much longer.

We returned to Lokasari with JAD showing me a few new bars that had loads of girls, but most too fat or too old for my taste. But in the plaza area we found another good experience for 300 k. I beautiful 18-19 year old. Tall, thin with small tits and a very nice body inspite of a couple of tattos. JAD later told me that she was actually a mother, which I never would have guessed considering how tight she was. Funny how some women's bodies can handle a baby and spring back so nicely and others are marked for life.

I finally made my way back to my Central JK hotel around 11:30 pm. JAD having spent almost 7 hours at my side despite the promise of a "3-hour" tour. I tipped him an additional $100 on top of his normal fee of $200.

The next afternoon, I returned on my own to Lokasari to try my luck around 2:00 pm. The old woman arranged with a few phone calls a couple of ladies over the course of two hours. Same price, same drill. Coincidently JAD was in the plaza area and he helped translate a few times from me and was of assistance but asked for no fee. I left soon after that for my business meetings and then flight to my next destination, very satisfied and happy.

*Conclusions: JAD was terrific and I consider the money well-spent since he showed me places and knew details that I hadn't seen on ISG before. He's a standup guy that I felt I could trust. However, it's important to understand that he takes no part in the actual negotiations with any girl and won't arrange anything as a middleman. He is careful to be only a guide and interpreter and not a pimp and while offered kick-backs from the mamas, says doesn't take them because he wants to remain 100% legal. (he also an accomplished artist and filmmaker if that's an interest.) But, his fee is equal to 3 or 4 sessions, so if money is tight you will probably choose to rely on the forum and your own experience. Or of course if you already know the town cold and are happy with what you find his service would be unnecessary. But for those with a little coin and an interest in exploring or a newby to JK who wants to not waste anytime, he's a great service. For Me? I'll hire him again and see what new things he can show me since I have limited interest in the normal venues of loud bars and bordellos staffed by professional hookers. His knowledge of the scene is encyclopedic and he has lots of stories to tell. As a well-educated professional his thoughts and insights about the workings of the business in JK were interesting and useful to the adventurous monger.

*Lokasari is certainly not everyman's cup-of-tea. The girls are less polished and often less beautiful than those in the clubs, some look a little rough around the edges, but many are fresh to the business. I tested all my partners with the Ora-Quick HIV test but found no positives. The area is grimy and dark, no one speaks English and, the hunting is unpredictable, so you must be patient and stroll looking in the shadows. On the other hand, the FF Hotel is clean, very serviceable and the convenience can't be beat I could image a frugal monger might take a room there for the night. So, if you like clubs and bars and socializing with potential partners in clean places with music and cold beer, you will probably not enjoy Lokasari. But I liked the grit and chance to find the occasional young flower not yet hardened by the bordello and club scams and scenes. It was a nice change of pace from my prior visits.

As a P.S. - the growing demands of club girls for CBJ is discouraging I understand this is now near-protocol at Alexis. Gentlemen, we need to resist this!!

A late post on this.

This was a new experience for me and I thank the fellow contributors for encouragement. On this trip to Jakarta I decided to play around with Tinder and see what turned up. As it was 20 and 22 year old semi-amateurs turned up in my bed at the Four Seasons for separate sessions.

The 20 year old was very nice, eager for the sex, and appreciative of the minor "taxi money" I provided. She was slim by Indonesian standards with medium-sized "be" cups, a beautiful ass (so common here), and a lust for DFK that was inspiring. I tipped her about 600,000 (USD43).

Here is how we came together.

Primer on Tinder skip if you know all this: Tinder, so far as I can tell, requires a Facebook account to authenticate members. This is a good thing in that the girls that are on the site seem to be real people and the photos, while they could be faked, are part of her real Facebook profile, I believe. That's all good from the woman's side, but I'm a married guy and I'm not going to link my real Facebook account to Tinder. As it happens, a few years ago I purchased a few fake seasoned FB accounts and linked one of these. (I don't think this is strictly necessary, it's not too difficult to set up an alternative FB account if you have a sim card.).

Anyway, I uploaded one or two actual photos of myself from a few years ago when I looked a bit less ancient. In the comments section I said something like "older guy looking for company of nice woman. TTM (which means a hook-up for sex) or long term companion. Taxi money. (aka I'll pay you)".

I signed up for the one month Premium package that allows one to set a location different from where you are at the moment and allows hiding of age (the girl sees your photo but not your age). I selected the age of woman I wanted to meet: 18-22 years. And then began to look at photos of girls who had said that they were open to meeting men of my stated age (I shaved a few years off the actual). Wow! The first stack was probably 80 girls. Most with fairly nice photos. At first I thought there are a lot of girl open to a gig with older guys including many that are only shown with a hajib. But obviously, this isn't the case. These are mostly younger women who have said that they are open to a large age range of men and get some pleasure from being viewed and occasionally selected by guys that they would never actually meet.

Out of the 80 I probably right-swiped (aka indicated interest) 25 of them. Why say no to an 18 year old? Out of this I got a match with 3 girls. This took 40 minutes. One was a girl offering in-room massage but "no sex". One was a cute 21 year old in the financial services business with a hajib and one was Fila. I responded to all 3 and got a conversation going with Fila. She seemed nice so after chatting (messaging) for 15 minutes. I suggested she come to my hotel so that we could meet in person. At this point she asked about money. I said "come over and I'll buy you a drink and give you 200,000 for taxi money (this is about 5 x what her transport would cost I think). If we like each other then we can decide what next" She said yes and was in the bar with me in 90 minutes. We hit it off fine and I took her to my room where I fuck the shit out of her for an hour and slipped 600,000 total into her pocket and sent her home. Great fun!

The next day, I matched with a 22 year old who was much cuter. We messaged and it became clear that she was a semi-wealth girl with a BMW and couldn't make her lease payment this month. I tried the come on over for 200,000 and see what happens but clearly she wanted something more firm. So I took a chance and offered her 1,000,000 and she was at my hotel in 60 minutes. She looked exactly like her photos and was naked in my bed 15 minutes later. But she wasn't into the sex and was a bit of whinner. I mentioned that if she needed money she should just go down to BATS and she would be mobbed by mongers and could charge close to 2,000,000 but she was horribly insulted by this thought. I paid her the 1. 0 million ($75) and considered it a reasonable experience.

*Conclusion: This was kind of fun and an interesting way to have a session with a non-professional. Both women's spoke excellent English and were university educated so the conversation was interesting. Both looked exactly like their photos. I have kept in touch with Fila and could try to reconnect on a future visit. Others have suggesting getting started on chatting these girls up weeks in advance of your trip. For me, the same day seemed to work just fine, but I am older and I seriously doubt any of these girls was looking for a relationship they just needed some quick cash from a decent guy. I suppose if you were a handsome 25-35 year old many of the girls would select you because they were interested in a relationship. These might take some chatting up to get them to your bedroom for little or no money.

Shortly after New Years, with an upcoming trip to JK in the cards, I decided to turn-on my seldom used Tinder account a week in advance and see what turned up in the 18-22 year old category. My experience was about the same as previous (see post below "Tinder Times 2016") I connected and started a chat with 3 girls. One dropped off quickly. The other two were as different as could be.

The first girl who "matched" (selected me) was a shock. Couldn't believe it. She was 19 and had posted, with zero pretensions, 4 innocent shots showing a lovely face, thin body, large breasts discreetly covered, long legs. I chatted with her for an hour or so of friendly, but not too flirty, banter. She said she lived with her grandfather who was extremely strict and she always had to be home by 4:30 pm from university. Whoa, this doesn't' should like a girl looking to hook-up for a quick buck. Nevertheless to quickly sort that out and quit wasting my time, I then asked if we could meet in my hotel. She said no way, she didn't do that sort of thing, but she'the meet me in a mall. I still wasn't in JK so we chatted a few more times and she was very engaging in an innocent curious way. She seemed to be looking for a friend not for money, so I didn't talk about money. Now I was actually getting interested in meeting her even if nothing came from it.

On arrival, I met her for lunch at a place near her school though she was careful to never tell me the name of her school. She was girl-next-door beautiful, with long legs, big eyes, conservatively dressed with a casual sexy innocence that I've rarely encounter outside of a Nabokov novel. We had a sweet but awkward conversation. She seemed to draw herself closer to me as the meal wore on and I ended up touching and stroking her leg a bit. I still couldn't figure out if she really wanted a slow-moving relationship with a guy 2 x-3 x her age, just biding her time until something better came along, if she was fishing for money or all three. In the end, I decided to sort some of that out by suggesting that she come to my hotel the following day. She said she would try. I figured that was the end of this.

Several hours later, I get a WhatsApp message saying that she was in big trouble as she'the been caught by her grandfather (probably a guy closer to my age! Haha) for missing class when she went to have lunch with me. I figured that was her way of cancelling but in the end she caught a taxi at 10:00 am and was at the hotel at 10:30. She was shy and bashful and not really affectionate. I think she was scared as hell but also excited about what might happen. It was like being in high school again. Only this time I was a better seducer and had her naked in bed by 10:45 am. She was wet as hell, running-down-her-leg wet. But still didn't seem very into things. We had sex, but it was like she was a high schooler unsure of her own sex drive. She said she'the had two boyfriends but didn't like fucking. It was a surreal experience. We lay in bed and talked for another hour with me alternately fondling her young body and stroking her hair, her just lying there a little starfish like. She left at 0:00 pm, me having previously slipped 800,000 into her purse. She sent a message saying it was nice to see me and thanking me for the money. I replied that "every student needs a little help now and then with money". We are still in touch. I think she's happy to have someone pay attention to her and while the sexual attraction may be one-sided she's getting a bit more forward in our chats. A novel experience for me. Will see where it leads.

The second girl, Cill, at 22 years was, judging by photos (which are likely accurate since they come from her FaceBook account) was a thin woman with big tits which she featured in many of her photos. We chatted over the course of a few nights. She was a total sex addict and loved to talk dirty and give me advice on how to hook an Indonesian girl. I told her about some of my previous experiences. She suggested changing my profile to say "Generous gentleman, kind and honest" rather than "happy to pay taxi money" since the latter she felt sounded low-class and would offend many women. She said all the young women want in a Western man is someone who has different color eyes. It was rather entertaining. When I finally arrived in Jakarta, I didn't have time to connect with her, but she might have been real fun she clearly was looking for sex and some pocket money from an older western man. I suspect she'the have been a very good fuck.

So, Tinder: an avenue to a different kind of more innocent woman. More educated and less professional hooker. Where you may need a good picture and a few chatting-up skills. Give it a go, but suggest you set up a fake Facebook account (google that) with a fake name and a few pictures, perhaps older ones but of you nonetheless or someone who resembles you. I understand the cupid site and others may offer similar experiences.

Went on a Sunday and it was free entry.

Was my first time there and have to say it's much better than Level 2.

Two sections of girls up on a well lit stage so good view of them in bright light unlike Level 2.

Not crowded and not so pushy masmans.

First section had 15 girls but next section just over 30.

Asked for an english speaking girl and got introduced to Pay. Tight body, short hair but some tatoos however I could look past the tattoos after grabbing her ass and it was rock hard. Why do Jakarta woman have such great ass's?

Took for an hour at $350 k.

In room realised her left hand was in bandage, turned out she came off her scooter and cut it up, again didn't care cause my hand was in heaven squeezing her amazing ass!

She ordered a couple things in Indo so I didn't know what it was, turned out to be water and cigarettes, she asked later if it was a problem not asking first? By now she was naked and with that hard ass she had equally great pair of large tits on her, so I said I didn't mind she can just make it up to me with good sex.

Started off with DATY which surprised her but she asked to stop after 5 minutes because she was getting wet and wanted sex, so slipped on a rubber and fucked her missionary and in Victory positions for around 20 to 30 minutes.

She was super wet after that, she was surprised I hadn't cum yet as I was banging her pretty hard.

She asked for doggy and I obliged but she was just so wet and slippery so I couldn't get a rhythm going. I started to go soft so finished her off with my hand. Yet when she started moaning and grinding against my hand she just got me revved up and hard.

So I climbed on top of her, tucked both her legs under my left arm and fucked her hard sideways till I came. We were both spent after that and she crawled off the bed and into the shower.

Was a great fuck and I will most def repeat. Pay again.

She didn't ask for tip but I gave her 100 k.

Will def be going to Classic Level 5 rather than 2 in the future.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2011198]Despite several successful prior visits to Jakarta, this time I decide to try the guiding services of Jakarta After Dark com. I was reluctant considering the price, $200, but after some research and recommendations from other seniors on the forum decided to take a chance. The tours are provided by an experienced Indonesian gentleman with a graduate school business education who has lived and mongered in Jakarta for 20+ years he is well-known and recommended by many of our senior members on the Jakarta forum. You can see some of the details of his experiences, and find means of booking his services, on his website: [URL]http://jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL] (look toward the bottom of the very long home page for these details). There were also some posts in the classified section of the Indo forum about him.

As a P.S. - the growing demands of club girls for CBJ is discouraging I understand this is now near-protocol at Alexis. Gentlemen, we need to resist this!![/QUOTE]Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

Might try and see if I venture there.

Also JAD's services for the non brothel places (classic, Travel hotel) seem worth it, I wouldn't know where to go at street level.

Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

She an early 20's, short, slim with big tits. Sits on the far right wall when you walk in?

I asked cause fcked her couple weeks ago but she starfished me and I got annyoed and just fcked her hard and came after 30 mins with her.

She asked for a tip at the end and I being an angry arsehole at the time fitst said no but then gave hller only 50 k. Which is not a good tip and she made sure I knew, saying she gets double that, but me still being angry from her starfish mode just walked off on her.

Not good I know.

Anyway went back on a Sunday, and she was looking hot as because she hits all my buttons (young early 20's, short slim with a great rack).

So forget my starfish experience, I just wanted to fuck her again. But here the thing she refused!?

Most likey cause I didn't tip her well. So I thought fuck this place and went to level 5 and had great session with Pay (see other report).

So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?

Any suggestions on SIM providers or packages?

My last visit, I bought a SimPATI card from the airport which promised 4 GB at 4 G speeds. It was fairly good, but the SMS and phone credits ran out very quickly. I found it very confusing to top up or know my balances.

Any better recommendations?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011579]Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

she starfished me[/QUOTE]Starfish is standard service at Classic. If you go to Classic, you have to expect that. The service there is crap on a regular basis. You are getting an hour with a young girl for very little money. That's the draw.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011574]Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

Might try and see if I venture there.
.[/QUOTE]I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.