Re American dead in custody.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2113855]No lawyer could help that fella. The law is very clear about not allowing minors to enter your residence unless they are your blood relatives. His lawyer may have argued that the film equipment, kiddie costumes and toys were circumstantial evidence. However, that would have been beside the point even if the NBI did not find incriminating photos on his devices. The dead fella was responsible for knowing the laws and obeying them. Once he breached the laws, it was too late. He faced languishing in jail for as much as a decade before going to trial. Meanwhile, he would have been prey for the hundreds of inmates infected with tuberculosis and HIV. The only way out of his predicament was the one he took. In doing so, he cheated the lawyers and NBI agents out of a considerable amount of money..[/QUOTE]CM gives some excellent advice re dealing with neighbours kids etc but his overall conclusion: the guy's situation was so hopeless that suicide was a sensible option is IMHO fundamentally incorrect.
I do urge everyone frequenting Philippines even and perhaps especially the old timers who think they know all there is to know about life here to familiarise themselves with the law in this area in case they end up in a similar predicament.
Where CM is correct is that even having a minor in your accommodation even doing something entirely innocuous like watching TV and eating popcorn is a criminal offense. Worse still, its not just in your private accommodation, taking her on a bus ride or to a nightclub etc would also be an offense. Not knowing her age or believing her story that she is 18 will not help if it turns out she's under 18 (and the age gap between you is over 10 years). This offence is bailable but if caught you can expect the NBI to try to pin another charge that is non bailable as well such as qualified [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] which would send you directly to jail. Before the charges are filed with the fiscal prosecutor it is at the NBIs discretion what charges to file so it is crucial that you have a good Atty to try to negotiate the best deal possible. In this particular case, the NBI are now backtracking on the Qualified [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] charge and claiming that they were only going to charge him with a bailable offense.
If you ever find yourself in this situation, please note that they need a specific search warrant to enter private accommodation without you inviting them inside and to legally open laptops etc so please make sure your equipment is password protected, never divulge passwords to the NBI no matter how much they intimidate you and ideally don't have potentially dodgy material in the first place.
In these cases the story released by the media is often only part of the story as the media themselves are often corrupt / incompetent / working in cahoots with the NBI.
In this particular case the apparently suspicious fact that his luggage contained high end camera / lighting equipment is not so suspicious once you learn that he was a well respected documentary film cameraman / producer with a long stream of credits on mainstream Hollywood productions.
It should also be noted that "suicides" that take place in custody in the Phils are not always "voluntary" and credible information that this may be the case here is beginning to emerge. This is another important reason why if ever you find yourself in this type of situation its essential to get a decent Atty to see you ASAP.
Finally if you ever do find yourself in this dreadful situation, its not quite as desperate as CM describes, so don't top yourself! Even if you have been charged with a non bailable offence you can always file a motion for bail. The prosecutor will have to demonstrate that the evidence against you is strong for this to be denied, so if there is really nothing against you, you have a good chance to get out within a year or so. You will not get raped or physically harmed and unless you engage in dangerous behaviour such as unprotected anal sex or needle sharing you are unlikely to get HIV. Trials are averaging around 5-10 years to complete, so if there is evidence against you and you can't bail, you must be prepared for a long haul. (The Phils has a crazy system of distributing a trial over "hearings" lasting say 10-15 minutes at 1 to 6 month intervals which is why they take such an insane time to complete.) Relatively few people are ever actually convicted as generally complainants lose interest / fail to turn up so cases are often eventually dismissed. However sentences if found guilty can be draconian. For example an Australian citizen was found guilty (apparently correctly) a couple of months ago of 3 counts of date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] with the same girl. The trial took 7 years to complete and he has been sentenced to 120 years. His only real chance of getting out is to take the case to the Appeal Court which is expensive and time consuming.
Not reassuring for mongers considering end result.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2114376]Finally if you ever do find yourself in this dreadful situation, its not quite as desperate as CM describes, so don't top yourself! Even if you have been charged with a non bailable offence you can always file a motion for bail. The prosecutor will have to demonstrate that the evidence against you is strong for this to be denied, so if there is really nothing against you, you have a good chance to get out within a year or so. You will not get raped or physically harmed and unless you engage in dangerous behaviour such as unprotected anal sex or needle sharing you are unlikely to get HIV. Trials are averaging around 5-10 years to complete, so if there is evidence against you and you can't bail, you must be prepared for a long haul. (The Phils has a crazy system of distributing a trial over "hearings" lasting say 10-15 minutes at 1 to 6 month intervals which is why they take such an insane time to complete.) Relatively few people are ever actually convicted as generally complainants lose interest / fail to turn up so cases are often eventually dismissed. However sentences if found guilty can be draconian. For example an Australian citizen was found guilty (apparently correctly) a couple of months ago of 3 counts of date grape with the same girl. The trial took 7 years to complete and he has been sentenced to 120 years. His only real chance of getting out is to take the case to the Appeal Court which is expensive and time consuming.[/QUOTE]Desperate is an understatement of life in a Filipino prison. Former inmates describe it as living in the deepest darkest bowels of Hell with all manner of fell creatures. A few months of incarceration in a one of those overcrowded sardine can dungeons in the sweltering tropical heat and humidity intensified with the body heat and stench of human flesh over-packed tightly together is enough to break most Westerners. There is one toilet for as many as 150 prisoners to share, many of whom suffer from diarrheal illnesses due to the horrible unsanitary conditions and poor quality food.
An American would find his immune system challenged like never before by all manner of tropical communicable diseases and intestinal parasites. All morbidly obese Westerners turn into stick figures after a year or two of rapid weight loss due to malnutrition and frequent bouts of the squirts. Drug resistant TB is a prevalent in Filipino prisons where cramped conditions favor rapid spread of respiratory diseases among the inmates.
HIV is extremely common because many of the prisoners are intravenous-drug addicts who contracted the infection from sharing needles, or engaging homosexual anal sex to finance their addiction. While not every foreigner who ends up in a local prison is going to end up contracting HIV, none should expect to leave an anal virgin. Unfortunately, Filipinos find Western men very exotic and sexually appealing, and this is not limited to the women. Furthermore, they do not consider the practice of homosexuality out of convenience the same as identifying as a gay. Filipinos stick together and value tribalism. The foreigner is always the outsider, and Filipinos expect their compatriots to take their side and come to their aid whenever there is a dispute with a foreigner. This makes a Philippine prison an extremely dangerous and inhospitable environment for a foreign inmate.
As a foreigner, avoid anything that may possibly land you in a one of those filthy human cesspools. Forget about getting out, the system will keep you locked up until it drains every penny out of you. If you get out and do not have the money to pay off the years of visa fees and overstay penalties that accrue over the course of incarceration, the Bureau of Immigration will re-arrest and detain you in Bicutan Prison until you find a way to come up with the money. After paying up and convincing them that you are now a pauper, they will happily deport and blacklist you. A decade or two may have gone by before getting to that point. Friends and family may have passed away over the years, or simply forgotten about you and moved on. The government at home probably seized your home for unpaid taxes and auctioned it off. Your job skills will no longer be relevant. It is almost impossible to start over as an elderly man with nothing in America.
So, you get out of jail only to go home and wish you had offed yourself a decade or two back in the Philippines because you are penniless, homeless, and unemployable. Meanwhile, your Filipino lawyer is now a peso-millionaire from charging you American prices for legal services. The judge and the court clerks are doing well from all the fees you paid for filing numerous documents and requirements. BI made bank on all those accrued visa fees and overstay penalties. If you were found guilty of something or plead guilty to something, your accuser (s) are probably peso-millionaires too. That sure does not look like winning, for you! After considering the whole thing, the fella who knocked himself off and left the Filipinos to figure out what to do with his corpse seems like a very smart guy. If he was innocent and a victim of extortion, his action was even more rational because he did not reward corruption. He may have even discouraged future extortion attempts on Americans, as he was not a very profitable detainee.
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Taking a chica for a break in Phils.
Hello peeps,
Need a little info on what is expected financially for my chica if I take her with me on a short break (holiday).
So I met a beautiful Cebuano who has shown some interest in joining me on a short excursion, she's a freelancer working the club scene in "duma".
Obviously me being a "Phils virgin" I would like to gather some useful knowledge in what is expected of me to her in monetary terms.
I will be paying for the trip, everything from travel to accommodation and food etc.
Any info, as always would be much appreciated.
TIA.
RM.
Mongering safety first priority.
Respected Seniors,
I have gone through this topic repeatedly in order to familiarize myself.
A newcomer to mongering.
My apprehensions are if we just stick to regular Mongering, I mean P4P getting contacts from dating sites meeting the babe in person and agreeing on a price before banging, like all we do and without picturing them or without indulging in banned things, age usually above 20 years.
Is it still risky to monger so that L. E. Will deliberately and intentionally book you just for their vested interests.
Is it much safer to stay at reputed hotel even if the tariff is high in comparison to low end hotels for Mongering.
Does high end hotel gives us any advantage if at all the P4P person indulges in drama.
And overall from Mongers safety perspective which is better Philippines.
Or Thailand or Dominican Republic.
Thanking you all.
I do urge everyone frequenting Philippines even and perhaps especially the old timers who think they know all there is to know about life here to familiarise themselves with the law in this area in case they end up in a similar predicament.
