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[QUOTE=Datebayo]Care to share those venues? Hope you don't refer nana and cowboy. Because those are higher priced and lower quality than sutthisan in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
In your dreams. There are probably more girls in say just Rawhide, Long Gun and Baccara than in all the Sutthisan gogos combined. And the 19 or 20 year olds in Sutthisan are exactly as 19 or 20 year old as the ones in Nana/Cowboy.
In say Nana I will usually get away with 2300 or 2400 for a shorttime, everything included. In Sutthisan it would be say 1500 (bar), 160 (big beer, cheapest choice), 20 (ice), 20 (cold towel), 100 (fucking fruits you were too worn down to refuse), 35 taxi to Pluem Dee which is 280 (because the 150 Suparb is really a bit depressing, and the 300 rip-off place is worse). You can't really skip the beer because there are mostly only 3 or 5 girls dancing at once, they don't get naked for ages, and the others are skulking in dark corners, so you have to stake out a place for a while. And in the meantime you have to fend off about 12 girls dragged up to you by the papasan who wants them to sit with you, and often as not they'll refuse to do more than hold hands. Especially the cute ones. And as soon as they're sitting with you, you're clocking up another 100++ every 40 minutes or so, and good luck figuring out all the scribbled bits of paper that make up your bill.
It's a interesting side trip, but not a clear win over Nana/Cowboy on any count, however much I'd like it to be.
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What happens next?
[QUOTE=Kumbu]As I fidgeted, I'm not sure what came over me, but my video camera was sitting on the desk, and so I just hit the record button and came back to the bed. Hmm, is Kumbu about to be naughty?[/QUOTE]I remember doing a similar thing a year ago, when I took a secret video of a particularly hot young lady. I had to turn the camera on just before she came out of the shower, so there a few minutes of fooling around before the main action, which did film remarkably well :). But then at the end she insisted I had the first shower, so I had to leave the camera running...
I staggered off to the shower barely able to walk, and as soon as the door was closed she transformed instantly from a hot slinky sexy female to a girl slobbing down on the bed to watch TV, as if the last half hour hadn't happened... Hard to explain, but I was kind of hoping she would lie on the bed staring at the ceiling with a dreamy smile on her face, gently caressing her breasts... But at least she didn't pick up her phone to chat to her boyfriend!
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Plan for Bangkok Trip
my 3rd trip to thailand and bangkok in one week.
going to be in bkk for 6 days. made a mistake and booked grand millenium for the duration via wotif (the mystery deal). quite costly at this time of year, apparently high season. i should have instead stayed at different hotels every 2 days just to check them out plus there is an additional cost of 500baht per day for internet connection for grand millenium as per forum info. walking distance to soi cowboy may not be such a big plus point. hopefully can get some kind of upgrade, thought reading the forum seems to indicate this is no longer possible. i have been spoiled by the size of the pattaya hotels and prefer a 1 bedroom these days. let's the wg sleep while i read, watch, surf, think, eat etc in another room but in bkk it is too costly to do that. tried to cancel this and wanted to try the brand new shama (opening 1st of october and pretty cheap opening rates for the size on wotif) but no luck.
i have done the tourist bit in bkk before and on my second trip i found the daytime hours quite boring. this time based on the forum i plan to visit tulip, annie's, mango and snow white. well trodden path in the forum but not by me. comments like, "we don't go to tulip's for the looks but the service" are not particularly encouraging but i have time to kill in the daylight hours so will of course try and form my own opinion.
is there any other recommendations of places to visit for daytime action? i don't like soapies (tried once before and did not think much of it, plus only 1 shot) so natatree is not on the list and tried eden before but not my thing ( and star of light, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] etc also of no interest to me) and have been in bier garten. any place else?
at night i plan to check out climax but from reading the forums, go-go's close around 1am these days. i do not remember this was the case previously. the initial plan was to visit climax circa 1am and if not finding anything there just head to the go-go's. being a short stay, it is imperative/waste if i do not get a girl everyday. however this plan does not seem possible as climax get's crowded around 1am according to the forum and these days the go-go's close at 1am. is this correct?
i will be in bkk from the 2nd to the 6th of october. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in soi cowbay for a beer. pm me.
any comments and suggestions are welcome.
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[QUOTE=Must Stop]Going to be in BKK for 6 days. Made a mistake and booked Grand Millenium for the duration via Wotif (the mystery deal).
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]You can make the most of it though.
The managers at the Grand Millennium are real wheeler dealers, and they love to shake & bake to make guests happy. You are staying for a lot of nights, push for the best deal you can but make sure that you go into the upgrade thing with a full clip. Remember, it's a business class hotel, try to LOOK like you belong there. (TIT, of course it's important.)
OK:
#1. Join the [url=http://www.mncloyalty.com/]M&C Loyalty Club[/url] and give the front desk staff your number as soon as you begin the check-in process.
#2. Ask for a full free upgrade (including Internet) to Grand Deluxe because you are staying so many nights.
#3. If they turn you down for the free upgrade, go for the 300. 500 Baht upgrade with free Internet.
#4. Try to get a breakfast discount. The breakfast isn't really all that special (except for Sunday brunch,) but it's a good place to open for a bargaining session.
#5. If, in the end, you just end up taking the standard Deluxe: After going up to your room try to find something to complain about, stained carpets, badly treated furniture, etc. This can also lead to freebies or some sort of upgrade deal. It's a big hotel, there are lots of rooms, the manager will consider the fact that you might complain to the corporate offices (a real no-no for week stay guests. It IS a 5 star rated hotel after all.)
Sure, I know it all sounds like a game, and yes it is, but you may actually end up enjoying your time there. Location, location, location. In Bangkok, anything that makes things easier to get to someplace and back is a big bonus. And, anything that makes it easier for you to get chicks back to your place is an even bigger bonus. Grand Millennium is just a 3 minute walk from Soi Cowboy, at 1 am this is a HUGE bonus.
Alright. Fuck it, the beds are terrific and the chicks all love the GM like crazy. So don't beat yourself up on your stay, just make the most of it..
Also, for a good time, try oilies. Plenty of reports on the boards. There are lots of them in the immediate GM area.
Good luck, and have fun with it.
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[QUOTE=Must Stop]My 3rd trip to Thailand and Bangkok in one week.
prefer a 1 bedroom these days.[/QUOTE]
Grande Centrepoint has 1 bedroom units, slightly more than B$3000 includes bkft and free internet; Ratchadamri, in a soi btw Grand Hyatt and Four Seasons. Very GFE.
[QUOTE=Must Stop]Is there any other recommendations of places to visit for daytime action?[/QUOTE]
If daytime starts at noon, do try akane, mango, tulips, annies. Most are 2+ pops, some also offer outcall so you can arrange room service for lunchtime -- pay slight premium over incall. Email them now and tell them what you're looking for....Mango and Annies are good with email or pm replies. I've already made my arrangements!
[QUOTE=Must Stop]I will be in BKK from the 2nd to the 6th of October. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in Soi Cowbay for a beer. PM me.
[/QUOTE]If you want to hook up, stop at Livingstone's Lodge - usually someone from ISG around, pm ahead of time.
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Man that site is full of porn pics lifted from the internet. Sorry you didnt notice. Maybe you should browse some more porn sites? :-)
[QUOTE=Cometoak]We always dream about a 10/10 gorgeous while shaking ourself.
So despite all actions I had, wanted more of meat. No Thai or Russians. SY had suggested a escort website([url]http://www.Vipmodel5.com/[/url]), (user I'd. VIP, pwd. VIP), called up, spoke to Anna, choose (as per her guidance) a Colombian hooker by the name Laura. She described her and that matched with my requirements to the dot.
Laura came exactly the time Anna committed and I was on cloud nine when I answered the door bell. Standing tall, nearly 6', lovely popping chest, and long never ending legs, great looking face but saw some cunning smile (or signal) on her lips.
I should have listened to my 6th sense and paid taxi fare and sent her back. But little AK took over the decision making and let her come in. As per the T&C paid her dues upfront.
As expected the drama started now. She asked me to take Bath, for which I said I just finished the same. Then I asked her to do the same. She went inside bathroom and I donno what she did inside. Absolutely mechanical so far. She came out undressed and laid down on bed and asked me to come over. Grrrrrr. So very reluctantly started playing with her boobies, and found out they are man made fakes. No kissing no playfulness total dead star fish.
She did some kind of CBJ if one can call that, and started cow girl action. After a while we moved onto mishy and I did finish in extra quick time.
Completed one more objective of meeting a 10/10 while visiting LOS and learned my lessons hard.
Looks can be very deceptive and money can not always buy a good sex.
10K BHT for next to nothing sex was a shocker and the perception about escort services proved correct. One of the low-lights of LOS.[/QUOTE]
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Kumbu my Bro,
you wrote some great stories before but this one is absolutely brilliant.
Keep it up
[QUOTE=Kumbu]When we got into the room, we made out for 10 minutes or so, and then we talked for another 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]
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We Whities got to face the facts that we are not the most desirable customers anymore for a lot of Thai WG. Those are Thai-Chinese, Singgies, Honkies, Yippons, Korean etc.
I sometimes go out with an 35 year old American buddy of Korean ancestry. That guy is as American as you can be. Hard-core Texan-republican, accent included. When I am with him, all the girls will swarm to him because he apparently looks somewhat similar to a Korean boy-band singer (without the gay makup and hairdo) and will barely acknowledge me.
Still there is plenty enough of fun for all us non-asians.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Indeed. 5-5-5 is the mantra of the day, and to be honest, I don't blame the girls. We falang are a pretty mixed bunch. Some of us are cool characters, but others - not so much. Consider that drunken slob I saw in Rainbow 1, reported on a few days ago. He was a fucking mess. If you were a woman, and were being offered more money from a cleaner, more respectful, well-dressed gentleman from Japan, which would you choose?
I report on another case of bad behavior in my next-to-next report, a guy in Sheeba's at Soi Cowboy. An embarrassment to all men, IMHO. And if you are white and in your 40s, you should be angry as hell at the kind of behavior I will describe to you.[/QUOTE]
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Gogos close around 2, whereas Climax or Nana Liquid or Bossy will not get busy until around 1. So I suggest you invert your schedule. Try the Gogos first and if you dont find anything hit Climax or the other places.
[QUOTE=
previously. The initial plan was to visit Climax circa 1am and if not finding anything there just head to the Go-go's. Being a short stay, it is imperative/waste if I do not get a girl everyday. However this plan does not seem possible as Climax get's crowded around 1am according to the forum and these days the go-go's close at 1am. Is this correct?
I will be in BKK from the 2nd to the 6th of October. if anyone is also visiting during that time, don't mind hooking up in Soi Cowbay for a beer. PM me.
Any comments and suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]
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Semi Domesticated Kumbu
on monday i called an old fling from pattaya to come join me for a few days. on the recommendation of some of you isg members, i decided i needed some more structured, predictable sex before i leave. this girl is fantastic in bed, as far as i am concerned. actually, she does not provide top quality services, but she has two things that make her totally unique in my book. first, she has the smokingest hot body of any gogo dancer i have ever seen. period. i mean, she is built absolutely perfectly for me. the only down side to her body is that her legs are slightly slenderer than i prefer (although still very nice), but everything else on her more than makes up for it.
she has large breasts, far larger than her slender frame deserves. her waist is small and tight, almost hard – it's quite remarkable. but more importantly, that tiny little waist opens up into a wide set of hips that harbor the grandest of asses – without a doubt, the best ass i have ever seen. i shit you not guys, it is an ass for ass lovers – built to perfection. it is large, but not flabby. it is round, on wide hips, and the crack extends all the way up to the small of her back (none of this half-crack crap you get with many asian women). it is the perfect size, shape and texture. it hides a beautiful asshole, something that i find hard justifying - how does an asshole ever qualify to be called 'beautiful'? but really, this one is superbly made - great shape, great crinkling, great coloring, and great taste and odor. yum. i mean, yuk. no, i mean yum.
the second thing she has which i find irresistible, quite fortunately, is an ass fetish. she loves having her ass licked out, and she enjoys all manner of anal probing and stimulation. she particularly enjoys daty combined with rimming, which is a tough order to perform night in and night out, but one that ass-fetished kumbu provides like the obedient servant that he is. i discovered her in may, and went with her several times in pattaya, and we clicked quite well. so time for old kumbu to sample the ass flavor again.
i made the mistake of telling her that i had just arrived, and i wanted to see her. i would pay her bf for two days, pay her taxi to bkk both ways, and pay her lt fee for two days if she came up and stayed with me. when i got back from work on monday afternoon, there she was, wearing a long dress hiding every one of her attributes. coy, i like that.
i got her into the bedroom and we just started to make out like long lost lovers. she had just got done with a long 2 hour taxi ride, and so she was not the freshest smelling, but to my surprise, her odor was delectable. i couldn't stop inhaling her smell, it was just fantastic – an aphrodisiac of the stratospheric kind.
we eventually did shower, and then the fun really began. i went down for daty, during which i reached my tongue around for some rimming. all was going according to plan at this point. she eventually came, much like i had experienced with her in may on many occasions. she scampered to the bathroom afterwards to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and shower, and then returned feeling all sensitive. so we chatted for 20 minutes and then she went down on me.
her bbbj was good, although not spectacular. it was wet, very, very wet, and slow and measured. she had no problem sucking and licking my balls, but overall her skills were...acceptable. i pulled back before the orgasm, popped on a trojan and in it went like a well-oiled sword. and i know she had not used any lube, which made me feel pretty good about myself.
so we had sex in a variety of positions, and eventually ended with her on her side, me entering from behind, urgently grasping those luscious ass cheeks as i orgasmed.
afterwards, we showered together, then cuddled and fell asleep.
the next day i went to work, and when i returned at 5pm, i told her i had to meet a friend for a drink. i scampered off to see spider at soi cowboy, and when i returned at 10pm, she was wailing and crying uncontrollably. huh? what? where am i?
but first, a report on our field trip to soi cowboy. no bf on this occasion, but just some observations from a guys' night out running through some of the gogo bars.
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[QUOTE=Spider916]Gogos close around 2, whereas Climax or Nana Liquid or Bossy will not get busy until around 1. So I suggest you invert your schedule. Try the Gogos first and if you dont find anything hit Climax or the other places.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Gogo bars start early, even as early as 6pm (although I've never been that early). They then close around 2am or so, with the occasional cop crack down which closes them early. But barring that, you have a good 8 hours to find something. Climax gets busy around 1am, and climaxes (heh, see what I did there?) around 2:30am (maybe earlier). If you are still empty handed, I would recommend walking out of Climax onto the street, avoiding all offers for taxis or tuk-tuks, and get into a metered taxi - one that is just driving past on soi 11. Tell the driver to take you to Spicey. Alternatively, at that hour, you could walk down to Nana Liquid and see what there is, as it gets cracking around 2am. Spend an hour or two scouring either place, and if you are still empty handed, grab a taxi to Bossy. Bossy peaks around 4:30am-5am, so really, if you are empty handed after searching from 6pm to 5am, then perhaps you should just chalk it up to fate and call it quits. But I just can't imagine that happening. If you are sufficiently horny and sufficiently patient, you will easily get laid every night (or more often, if you so desire) while in BKK.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]- how does an asshole ever qualify to be called 'beautiful'? But really, this one is superbly made - great shape, great crinkling, great coloring, and great taste and odor.
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I love it, man. "Great Crinkling" -- that is just too funny. You truly have what Hemingway called "afición" for the cornhole.
I hope you have fun and I hope that advice we all gave you works for you (thought that crying sounds a bit troubling).
Stay horny my friend...
Uncle V
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[QUOTE=Barko]You can make the most of it though.
The managers at the Grand Millennium are real wheeler dealers, and they love to shake & bake to make guests happy. You are staying for a lot of nights, push for the best deal you can but make sure that you go into the upgrade thing with a full clip. Remember, it's a business class hotel, try to LOOK like you belong there. (TIT, of course it's important.)
OK:
#1. Join the [url=http://www.mncloyalty.com/]M&C Loyalty Club[/url] and give the front desk staff your number as soon as you begin the check-in process.
#2. Ask for a full free upgrade (including Internet) to Grand Deluxe because you are staying so many nights.
#3. If they turn you down for the free upgrade, go for the 300. 500 Baht upgrade with free Internet.
#4. Try to get a breakfast discount. The breakfast isn't really all that special (except for Sunday brunch,) but it's a good place to open for a bargaining session.
#5. If, in the end, you just end up taking the standard Deluxe: After going up to your room try to find something to complain about, stained carpets, badly treated furniture, etc. This can also lead to freebies or some sort of upgrade deal. It's a big hotel, there are lots of rooms, the manager will consider the fact that you might complain to the corporate offices (a real no-no for week stay guests. It IS a 5 star rated hotel after all.)
Sure, I know it all sounds like a game, and yes it is, but you may actually end up enjoying your time there. Location, location, location. In Bangkok, anything that makes things easier to get to someplace and back is a big bonus. And, anything that makes it easier for you to get chicks back to your place is an even bigger bonus. Grand Millennium is just a 3 minute walk from Soi Cowboy, at 1 am this is a HUGE bonus.
Alright. Fuck it, the beds are terrific and the chicks all love the GM like crazy. So don't beat yourself up on your stay, just make the most of it..
Also, for a good time, try oilies. Plenty of reports on the boards. There are lots of them in the immediate GM area.
Good luck, and have fun with it.[/QUOTE]A similar plan which worked great for me in HK recently was to type up my "report" which I was ready to post on Trip Advisor.
I played the blackmail game with the Front Office Manager who I had met on a previous stay.
Trip Advisor can really ruin a hotels rep and this report was factual, with photos of the hairs on bedsheets (in a clean room), chipped glass, missing coffee sachets etc. Anyways in return for not posting, got a club floor room for the next 3 days. Sometimes players win LOL.
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Tips
[quote=corne bakker]wow, nice story. you must be a writer?
i'm thinking of visiting bangkok for the first time in november this year. do you have any tips for me?
thanks cb[/quote]hi corne,
i am not a writer. actually far from it. just a simple guy that like to pay back to this forum by contributing some information about my adventures in the land of smiles. the best tip i could give you is: rtff.
but a more general set of tips would be:
determine for yourself what kind a needs you have. do you want to experience scantily clad girls gyrating on your lap and begging you for a ladydrink with the possible option for banging your brains out in either a short time or long time adventure? then visit nep or soi cowboy.
nep can be found on soi 4. take the skytrain (bts) to nana and get off on the even side. you should see the landmark hotel on your left hand side. pass this and walk into the first side street on your left. side streets of large roads are called soi. large roads are called thanon. so thanon sukhumvit, soi 4 would mean the fourth side street of the main road sukhumvit. after about 100 meters you will see a lot of different lights and open bars on your left hand side. this is nana entertainment plaza. enter it and you will see that it consist of three levels of pure erotic pleasure. on the ground level are open bars and some go go's. take the escalator (or the stairs in the back) to the first floor and you will see a lot of bars.
be careful not to step inside the wrong bar, since there are some ladyboy bars as well (casanova, cascade, obsession and temptations). ladyboys are also called katoey. check out the forum for how to spot a ladyboy (taller, nicer breasts, smaller hips, bigger hands, bigger shoulders, adams apple, stronger jawlines, deeper voice, more aggressive). unless you want to do something with lb's, of course.
there are quite a number of regular go go bars in nep that have nice looking girls and some fascinating shows. rainbow iv and angelwitch were/are good locations to visit. but be sure not to come across as a first timer. because first timers are shark bait! you will be hassled into buying a lot of ladydrinks and the girls will be all over you(r money). in the go go bars, girls will be dancing on the stages and at certain points during the evening special shows will be performed. this can be anything from lesbian shows, p*ssy acrobatics (anything that can be imagined will be stuffed into and pulled out of the tunnel most of us came out of) to body painting. go go bars work in dance shifts. girls that are not dancing are either walking around and try to entertain/hassle customers. or are just staying together and chitchat or eat food. if you do not want to talk to a girl or give her a ladydrink, just say no (or mai auw in thai). if they insist, then just repeat it again more firmly, but always keep on smiling. never appear to be upset or rude, because thai people do not like to lose face. and getting upset means to lose face. if you cannot help it and cannot control yourself anymore. then just pay up your bill and leave. but always check that you did not pay more than needed and check your change.
if you do find someone you like. then look at her directly and see if she smiles at you too. if no smile comes from the recipient side, then don't bother. the possibility of a starfish adventure are high then. you can ask the girl directly to sit with you or you can ask a waitress or the mamasan to call her over. just remember her number and refer to that when calling her over. once you have the girl next to you (or all over you.), you can buy her a ladydrink and chit chat a little bit. during the chit chat you will discover if her communication skills are good enough for you or not. most thai bargirls have limited english skills. a typical conversation would go like:
bg: sawasdee ka, me like you.
you: i like you, too. where are you from?
bg: isaan (a province in the north east of thailand)
you: what is your name?
bg: lek, poo, kung or apple (fill in your own short name)
you: how old are you?
bg: me 21 year. you?
you:. (fill in anything you want, as they do not care about your age anyway).
after this most girls are out of english skills and the extra words they know are short time 2000 baht, and long time 3000 baht (or higher depending on how money eager they are). always negotiate and start with a lesser amount than what they ask. bargaining is part of the whole p4p. ask her for the services she offers for this amount and how many times you are allowed to come. sometimes they refer to smoking as giving a bj. so if being asked if you like smoking, then point at your member and say yes! when the negotiation has ended, pay the bill + the bar fine and leave with the girl to the place you want to go. you can either go back to your hotel (if it is girl friendly) or go to a short time hotel. the bg should know where these are.
if you happen to get caught by a gold digger, then don't be surprised if she wants to eat first, go hang out with some of her friends in expensive places and get some clothing or other body ornaments. of course you are the one that has to pay for all of this. be a man and smile and tell her that you will have none of that and that you already have many girlfriends (giks) that you need to support like that. if she wants anything she has to earn it first with exceptional services. short time hotels are normally around 300 baht per hour.
you can also check out soi cowboy (side street of soi 23 on thanon sukhumvit. take the bts to asoke and walk towards the grand millenium hotel. the entry should be on your right side. you can use the mrt station to cross the road.) in soi cowboy you can visit a lot of bars that have different kinds of activities. if interested in dancers without any underwear than visit baccara. if interested in a bj on the spot, than go to afterskool. if interested in good shows then go to suzi wong.
if you are into bj's then visit either [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s (soi 8, thanon sukhumvit near bts nana) and get your rocks of for 700 baht, or visit star or light in patpong. or go to the kangaroo bar in patpong. some go go bars in soi cowboy also offer bj's but that can be a touch and go.
if the whole go go scene is not your thing, then you can check out the freelancers in a couple of places. beergarden on sukhumvit soi 7, gulliver's on sukhumvit soi 5. just check out the site from wickedtraveler for a quick overview of the different things to do.
another pleasure to indulge into are massages/soapies/oilies. check out the forum for which places to go to. again, which place to go to depends upon your desires. if you want a real masssage, then go to shops that have a sign that says traditional massage. anything with the term body massage in it, is likely to offer more than just a massage. i personally like to go to annie's as i like to order two girls to give me a full service checkup with multiple pops and lots of daty. but i also enjoy going to aviva. there are so many massage places that it is simply too hard to give a short overview of these. just rtff.
if you are into trio's or more with girls that provide three hole services, then you can also check out eden. eden is located on sukhumvit soi 7/1 close to bts nana. you can pick two or more girls and get your pornstar fantasy fulfilled there. just remember that there is a line that separates the a+ girls from the none a+ girls. if you are only interested in three hole adventures with one girl. then check out tulip massage or mango massage. these massage shops are the best nowadays into providing this kind of service.
another tip i can give you is to hook up with fellow mongers and have a good time together. i will be in bkk beginning of november. so maybe i will see you there.
happy mongering,
d
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Thanks
Thanks, Barko, Traveler1234, Spider916 and Kumbu for your thoughts.
I have just joined the M&C loyalty card and will try for the upgrades when I get there.