Jakarta

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2035857]I thought you were in love with Okta at Classic. Why cheat on her?

D'Heaven is right next door to those other places you mentioned, it is not on the main road. Nothing is on the main road in Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]Okta? I might be paranoid but I reckon she been sleeping around on me with other guys. She reckons trey all "work colleagues". Yeah right!

Hey did you end seeing what she looked like and sneak a pic?

As for the'haven location. Now I am more confused. I been to KingsX and Sumo, they next to each other in the same complex but I didn't think the'haven was there as well?

I thought the'haven was north of KingsX and closer to Mall of Indonesia? So line 15 minutes away?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2036233]Okta? I might be paranoid but I reckon she been sleeping around on me with other guys. She reckons trey all "work colleagues". Yeah right!

Hey did you end seeing what she looked like and sneak a pic?

As for the'haven location. Now I am more confused. I been to KingsX and Sumo, they next to each other in the same complex but I didn't think the'haven was there as well?

I thought the'haven was north of KingsX and closer to Mall of Indonesia? So line 15 minutes away?[/QUOTE]I never found Okta. She may be hiding in the back awaiting your return and remaining loyal to you.

All of those Kelapa Gading places are within walking distance of each other along the same side road. Delta is closest to the main road, then D'Heaven, then MTR2, then King Cross, then Sumo. If you are at any one of them you can walk to another in a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2036397]I never found Okta. She may be hiding in the back awaiting your return and remaining loyal to you.

All of those Kelapa Gading places are within walking distance of each other along the same side road. Delta is closest to the main road, then D'Heaven, then MTR2, then King Cross, then Sumo. If you are at any one of them you can walk to another in a few minutes.[/QUOTE]Would you agree with this location for the Haven according to Google Maps?

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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2035857]I thought you were in love with Okta at Classic. Why cheat on her?

D'Heaven is right next door to those other places you mentioned, it is not on the main road. Nothing is on the main road in Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]The d'Heaven in Kelapa Gading is closed at the moment, either for renovation or just plain closed. I tried to go there past Sunday and there was construction going on with the with the name board being sideways down against the front of the venue.

[QUOTE=FlapFlap;2036672]The d'Heaven in Kelapa Gading is closed at the moment, either for renovation or just plain closed. I tried to go there past Sunday and there was construction going on with the with the name board being sideways down against the front of the venue.[/QUOTE]It needs a renovation. The one at Grand Wijaya center is way newer and nicer. But considering they basically never renovate any of these places, I wouldn't be surprised if they are closing it down.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2036787]It needs a renovation. The one at Grand Wijaya center is way newer and nicer. But considering they basically never renovate any of these places, I wouldn't be surprised if they are closing it down.[/QUOTE]Oh OK so its closed, oh well that prob a good thing, can now focus on spending more time on KingsX, Sumo and Mtr2.

Hopefully that have a good selection at the start of Ramadan?

So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037102]So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you already know everything. You just need to pick your poison. I'm not sure what you are expecting from a "GFE", but (although possible) you won't likely find it at any place in Jakarta that provides a lineup of girls. If you want GFE, you need to go with free lancers. However, since you aren't looking for free lancers, Hotel Classic is your best choice. The spa in the basement of Hotel Classic may be your best bet for a good massage and possible GFE, but it's more expensive than the Classic bunker, Classic terminal or 5th floor of Classic.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037102]So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I been to illegal about 3 times and got GFE each time, I think it's like a standard for the girls.

But illegal costs more than Classic, think its around 900 k for 1 hour or 1.3 m for 2 hours?

I know two girls for 2 hours is 2.4 m.

So Ramadan supposed to start next Friday and there are supposed holidays for 3 days next weekend?

Sounds not good conditions for mongering although you would think with public holidays and breaking fast at night then it should be a few places cranking?

Anyway, I just found out from Illegal that their girls won't be there and be closed for 2 days (27 May 28 May, maybe even Monday 29 May).

Then below got news that the haven shut down in Kelapa Gading.

So wondering two things, which of the following still in operation and for sure open next Ramadan Saturday and Sunday, 2 days of my 3 day trip to Jakarta!

Fm1.

Berlian Massage & Cafe.

Kartika Panti Pijat massage.

Grand Boutique Spa with Body Massage Hotel Orchardz, 6th floor.

V2.

Malibo.

Sumo.

KingsX.

Mtr2.

Classic.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037404]

Anyway, I just found out from Illegal that their girls won't be there and be closed for 2 days (27 May 28 May, maybe even Monday 29 May).[/QUOTE]That will be the case for every place in town. All of those places on your list will be closed. Nothing sex related or alcohol related will be open anywhere.

Your only hope might be a regular massage at a normal hotel. We went for a massage at Hotel Ambhara one year when everything else was closed. It sucked, but it was better than nothing.

I recommend you get some girls phone numbers and have them come over.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2037547]That will be the case for every place in town. All of those places on your list will be closed. Nothing sex related or alcohol related will be open anywhere.

Your only hope might be a regular massage at a normal hotel. We went for a massage at Hotel Ambhara one year when everything else was closed. It sucked, but it was better than nothing.

I recommend you get some girls phone numbers and have them come over.[/QUOTE]Smoothy has forgotten more than I will ever know about Jakarta, but there is one glimmer of hope for a monger during Ramadan (or at least there was when I was there in 2015.).

Hotel Travel was business as usual during Ramadan 2015 with the one exception that one had to enter via the hotel during daylight hours and not directly into the bar on the lower level.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2037116]Sounds like you already know everything. You just need to pick your poison. I'm not sure what you are expecting from a "GFE", but (although possible) you won't likely find it at any place in Jakarta that provides a lineup of girls. If you want GFE, you need to go with free lancers. However, since you aren't looking for free lancers, Hotel Classic is your best choice. The spa in the basement of Hotel Classic may be your best bet for a good massage and possible GFE, but it's more expensive than the Classic bunker, Classic terminal or 5th floor of Classic.[/QUOTE]Thanks Smoothy and Vrsabien.

My idea of GFE, which may be different from other people's, is simply a cooperative attitude of the girls, as opposed to "don't do this, don't touch here". In my admittedly limited experience, this kind of attitude is more of a problem in Europe than in SE Asia.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037401]I been to illegal about 3 times and got GFE each time, I think it's like a standard for the girls.

But illegal costs more than Classic, think its around 900 k for 1 hour or 1.3 m for 2 hours?

I know two girls for 2 hours is 2.4 m.[/QUOTE]Did you get the girls from Illigals club or the spa on the 4th floor?

[QUOTE=Porker;2037627]
Hotel Travel was business as usual during Ramadan 2015 with the one exception that one had to enter via the hotel during daylight hours and not directly into the bar on the lower level.[/QUOTE]This is true. But the day before Ramadan and the first day of Ramadan, everything will be closed.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037653]Thanks Smoothy and Vrsabien.

My idea of GFE, which may be different from other people's, is simply a cooperative attitude of the girls, as opposed to "don't do this, don't touch here". In my admittedly limited experience, this kind of attitude is more of a problem in Europe than in SE Asia.

Did you get the girls from Illigals club or the spa on the 4th floor?[/QUOTE]I only went to the spa where they have "freelance" girls who answer to one lady in charge.

Apparently there also a massage level but you need to negotiate price etc. With freelance girls all one price and discounts if you buy more (time or extra girl) plus freelance has standard girls and premium girls but they all looked hot to me.

If going standard look for Eggy she the best GFE I ever had, also her friend Astin not bad.

But a real wildcat was a 20 year old by name of Coco, perky breast, long hair super smooth body.

If you go let me know if those girls still there and if price same.