[QUOTE=FakeIt;2405106]Maybe some girls will agree to EUR110 (60 EUR+50 EUR)[/QUOTE]It was much easier last year. I tried to get that price 6 months ago and no girl would agree to it.
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;2405106]Maybe some girls will agree to EUR110 (60 EUR+50 EUR)[/QUOTE]It was much easier last year. I tried to get that price 6 months ago and no girl would agree to it.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2405234]It was much easier last year. I tried to get that price 6 months ago and no girl would agree to it.[/QUOTE]I would say that about 50% of the girls accept 60 + 40 = 100 € for 30 min including BBJ.
But then it does not include CIM.
I'm writing this solely for the benefit of the person who, 12 months from now, might be scrolling back through this forum to make an assessment on whether or not to visit Artemis the day after Charismas. Read no further. Save your money and don't go.
I was there on the 23rd (see previous post) and the line up was looking positive. But after the 24 and 25th off days, the 26th is a big drop in line up. Most are probably on holiday until the new year, but also factor in that because they open at 6 PM on the 26th, everyone is already on the back foot. You still pay full entrance fee for half the time, technically. (Same will apply for Jan 2nd).
It was a complete sausage party. 50+ men to about 15 women. Only two women qualified for my hit list, but guys were clammering all over them.
Usually when the main room is looking sad the bar tenders and DJs would step in to liven up the atmosphere. Generous pours and bumping music can usually turn things around. But not here. Mariah Carry's Christmas album was on repeat and the 10 EUR drinks were just as weak.
Anyway. If you can avoid it. You probably should.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2406683]I'm writing this solely for the benefit of the person who, 12 months from now, might be scrolling back through this forum to make an assessment on whether or not to visit Artemis the day after Charismas. Read no further. Save your money and don't go.
I was there on the 23rd (see previous post) and the line up was looking positive. But after the 24 and 25th off days, the 26th is a big drop in line up. Most are probably on holiday until the new year, but also factor in that because they open at 6 PM on the 26th, everyone is already on the back foot. You still pay full entrance fee for half the time, technically. (Same will apply for Jan 2nd).
It was a complete sausage party. 50+ men to about 15 women. Only two women qualified for my hit list, but guys were clammering all over them.
Usually when the main room is looking sad the bar tenders and DJs would step in to liven up the atmosphere. Generous pours and bumping music can usually turn things around. But not here. Mariah Carry's Christmas album was on repeat and the 10 EUR drinks were just as weak.
Anyway. If you can avoid it. You probably should.[/QUOTE]Yikes!
Nothing worse than a sausage fest, LOL.
Thanks for the reporting and heads up!
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2406683]I'm writing this solely for the benefit of the person who, 12 months from now, might be scrolling back through this forum to make an assessment on whether or not to visit Artemis the day after Charismas. Read no further. Save your money and don't go.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for looking out for everyone, I'm not too surprised as it's the holidays and Artemis has a poor reputation amongst FKK's but then they have no competition in Berlin. (Yet another reason why Berlin is low on my Job hunt list despite all the opportunities.).
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2406683]I'm writing this solely for the benefit of the person who, 12 months from now, might be scrolling back through this forum to make an assessment on whether or not to visit Artemis the day after Charismas. Read no further. Save your money and don't go.[/QUOTE]Usually Artemis' last good weekend of the year is about one week before Christmas. So you have been lucky this year as I wouldn't go there after December 20. Adding to this, better to avoid January as well. Many girls want to stay longer with family and friends.
I know I know the whole world was waiting, sorry for the late response, but I was busy with a fake business meeting at midnight. The industrial meth kitchen Ceo's are always that late and they talk and they talk without saying something. A bit like Lawyers who are decorating lies.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2404783]Visited Artemis yesterday. It was Friday and I arrived at around 7 PM. On walking in I was surprised at how quiet it was. It was not empty, but being a weekend I was bracing my self for pounding music and crowds. That wasn't the case at all..[/QUOTE]I like this nickname.
Was it the night when the parking lot was packed with cabs all over like two yellow snakes till down to Halensee road?
If so, it reminds me of the guy who drives all day in hot summer with closed windows, to make people believe his car has air condition.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2405149]30 min = 60.
BBBJ = 50.
CIM = 50.
Sums up to 160.
Nothing strange.[/QUOTE]Minus.
Entry = 80.
Pretax = 30.
Bedroom rent (if) = 30.
There is the profit of 20 euro.
That is not that much, hopefully she found four or five more 'fake it' customers that night to pay back some owes, enjoy a few days in snow (made by snow cannons) or whatever.
You mongers should pay more otherwise the hookers need to start working as towel lady's too to finance the hobby. Getting rich in FKK Klub.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2407494]Adding to this, better to avoid January as well. Many girls want to stay longer with family and friends.[/QUOTE]Excellent opportunity for the young and the slim natural born galactic service providing Mdels from NRW to make a dream come true.
Become an Artemis girl.
Cut the service, triple the prices, smell the money. Just breath deep through the nose. And again.
Dopamine.
It's going to be awesome in January in Artemis. The girls just need to go there.
I should also greet Canary. Sandra still loves you. You are the man of her life. And I am writing this with no ill will.
Slide in well. People.
But this sounds like the situation in all other clubs, including the best ones in Germany. This is not specific to Artemis, which is mostly making money off of american and asian business people. Hence its bad reputation among those that know the other options.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2406683]I'm writing this solely for the benefit of the person who, 12 months from now, might be scrolling back through this forum to make an assessment on whether or not to visit Artemis the day after Charismas. Read no further. Save your money and don't go.
I was there on the 23rd (see previous post) and the line up was looking positive. But after the 24 and 25th off days, the 26th is a big drop in line up. Most are probably on holiday until the new year, but also factor in that because they open at 6 PM on the 26th, everyone is already on the back foot. You still pay full entrance fee for half the time, technically. (Same will apply for Jan 2nd).
It was a complete sausage party. 50+ men to about 15 women. Only two women qualified for my hit list, but guys were clammering all over them.
Usually when the main room is looking sad the bar tenders and DJs would step in to liven up the atmosphere. Generous pours and bumping music can usually turn things around. But not here. Mariah Carry's Christmas album was on repeat and the 10 EUR drinks were just as weak.
Anyway. If you can avoid it. You probably should.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2408315]This is not specific to Artemis, which is mostly making money off of american and asian business people. Hence its bad reputation among those that know the other options.[/QUOTE]You are certainly right about slow season overall. But wrong about Artemis clientele. Yanks and Asians on any night are less than 5% of mongers. By a long shot they are mostly Germans (duh), a fair number of Italians especially on the weekends, and then Brits and Scandis and a mix of all else.
And if you read actual recent reports, by people who have actually recently been there, people who know what they are doing, and are relaxed about themselves and are choosy, are enjoying themselves. Which is why, with all its warts and problems, it is busy busy busy. Wed-Sat.
Hello friendly people,
I will have some time in Berlin next week. I'm still not decided should I go and try this FKK experience in Artemis or not. That would be my first time in FKK and even first time paying for sex at all. From what I read here the girls might smell the noob / tourist in me and try to scam me. Tried to talk some friends into this, but they are ether not interested or will judge doing such thing. Also if I would go I probably would spend there a whole day. Would feel award sitting there the whole day by myself. Also I'm 30 YO. Not willing to pay for any girl that is older than me.
Looking for advice should I go there by myself?
[QUOTE=Vifate;2408584]That would be my first time in FKK and even first time paying for sex at all. From what I read here the girls might smell the noob / tourist in me and try to scam me.Looking for advice should I go there by myself?[/QUOTE]Not so easy to answer this. Going alone not a problem as the guys are quite friendly and if you make even a slight effort, you will surely meet locals who will be fun to hang with. Very good idea to do that -ask for recommendations or whom to avoid, etc. The real unknowns are with you, and how you will react in this situation. Can only offer some choices and things to think about. First, I would skip Sun-Wed. Artemis is slower on these days, even more so in early January. You will have many more choices Thurs-Sat. It is also really quiet til maybe 16-1700-can be only 20 girls vs. 70-100 later. The full evening shift is not completely there till about 2000. The dead daytime has some advantages as atmosphere is chilled, but choices are limited. You can always swim and sauna but still. In the warmer season, being able to be outdoors changes this but it can get pretty dreary in winter. So advice is go a little later. Alternatively you can go early, if too boring, leave and come back later, for no extra charge-front reception desk will explain all, quite easy. On the power nights Fri-Sat after 2230 it will be busier, and sometimes you may need to wait for a room, main area can get smokier etc. How you pace yourself -how many times you want to session, how much time you need between, is something you will have to work out.
Many will say Artemis is an intimidating place for a newbie. I think that depends really on the newbie, how much confidence one has, how relaxed one can be etc. Certainly the first 30 min, seeing all these naked beauties is quite the shock (though most would say in a very good way) as suddenly you realize whoa, whole new game, whole new rules vs. The real world.
The trick here is just take it all very very slow. Just sit for an hour observing all options. Don't jump at first proposition. If asked, you can say first time at Artemis but not first time at FKK (say you were at Globe in Zurich or something). When you find someone attractive, be very sure you make some small talk first and feel the vibe-watch her eyes, body language. This sense of determining whether she is comfortable is the most important skill you need to develop and it only comes with practice.
Absolutely discuss what you want, what you should both expect, how much time, and what all will cost BEFORE GOING UP TO A ROOM. Be very clear on this last bit, how it fits in your budget, how many times more you think you might session etc. If you have the slightest doubt, if something does not feel right, just say no, and walk away. And if for some reason this becomes necessary you can even do this inside a room in the first minute or so. Plenty of other options there. Maybe for the very first time just go simple - 30 minutes, 60 Eur, but say "if things go well you might stay longer". Girls have obvious interest in closing the deal quickly. You just need to take enough time to feel right. And again, if you are even just a little unsure, don't go, and choose someone else. And do not get suckered into stupid prices. Lots of discussion on what all can cost in this thread. Also good idea to have a watch so you can keep an idea of time, where you want to be at a given moment (foreplay vs the final stretch, different positions etc.) all helped by quick look at watch.
The big advantage A has is that you do have plenty of time to sort all this out. You can chat with a girl, and just say maybe later, etc. One could argue that for a first time, a decent bordello like Liberty on Martin Luther Strasse might be an alternative. Girls are nice, prices lower- the difference is you have like 5 seconds to decide during the parade as all introduce themselves. That creates its own pressure so you just have to decide what works for you. There is another, Prestige, that can be OK, and is a 5 minute walk from Artemis. You might just walk in to either, see the choices, then decide.
If you just follow these simple rules, you should be fine. And plenty of "under 30" girls. But you also might find that actually it is the older girls who are a lot better experience (they are just more comfortable IMHO with sex) and experiment a little. Artemis is certainly worth a look just for the experience. Just stay frosty, and use common sense.
There are a mix of reports here. Some angry, some bitter, some nuts, some had really great time. Kind of like the real world. It will depend a fair bit on you, and everyone is different. Good luck and report back on the results of your trip.
[QUOTE=Vifate;2408584]Hello friendly people,
I will have some time in Berlin next week. I'm still not decided should I go and try this FKK experience in Artemis or not. That would be my first time in FKK and even first time paying for sex at all. From what I read here the girls might smell the noob / tourist in me and try to scam me. Tried to talk some friends into this, but they are ether not interested or will judge doing such thing. Also if I would go I probably would spend there a whole day. Would feel award sitting there the whole day by myself. Also I'm 30 YO. Not willing to pay for any girl that is older than me.
Looking for advice should I go there by myself?[/QUOTE]I was at Artemis last weekend with 3 other friends all in our low / mid 20's, we had a ton of fun but it was a bad timing since many of the women where on a holiday so the line up was "meeehhh" at best but still a ton of hot women around. Sunday after 12 was a sausage party through not kidding like 6 guys for every girl it was horrible.
But you should definitely go, its not even a question. Fridays / Saturdays are the power days so arriving around 7-8 is perfect. My tips would be:
1. Don't go with the first girl that comes to you take your time and look at the lineup and see who you like the most.
2. If a girl is aggressive or pissed of that you don't go with her you dodged a bullet she would have been bad in the room.
3. Start with 60 euro /30 min first time not matter what she says.
4. Never tell them that its your first time there.
Thank a lot for great tips! I might try Thursday. One question. I'm sure it was already answered many time, but I haven't found it in last 50 pages of the forum. Where do you keep the cache? As I understood after entering you have to go to a shower and than just come to main room with just a towel. Do I keep a wallet in hand all the time? What if I'm having only some 100 bills. Will girls give a change from it? I guess it is two questions.
[QUOTE=BoneRanger69;2408837]Not so easy to answer this. Going alone not a problem as the guys are quite friendly and if you make even a slight effort, you will surely meet locals who will be fun to hang with. Very good idea to do that -ask for recommendations or whom to avoid, etc. The real unknowns are with you, and how you will react in this situation. Can only offer some choices and things to think about. First, I would skip Sun-Wed. Artemis is slower on these days, even more so in early January. You will have many more choices Thurs-Sat. It is also really quiet til maybe 16-1700-can be only 20 girls vs. 70-100 later. The full evening shift is not completely there till about 2000. The dead daytime has some advantages as atmosphere is chilled, but choices are limited. You can always swim and sauna but still. In the warmer season, being able to be outdoors changes this but it can get pretty dreary in winter. So advice is go a little later. Alternatively you can go early, if too boring, leave and come back later, for no extra charge-front reception desk will explain all, quite easy. On the power nights Fri-Sat after 2230 it will be busier, and sometimes you may need to wait for a room, main area can get smokier etc. How you pace yourself -how many times you want to session, how much time you need between, is something you will have to work out.[/QUOTE]Sounds great! Just wish I would be able to also go with friends and not alone. I really have no clue how I would behave with a pushy naked lady. I hope I can keep it cool!
[QUOTE=BroteinShake69;2408917]I was at Artemis last weekend with 3 other friends all in our low / mid 20's, we had a ton of fun but it was a bad timing since many of the women where on a holiday so the line up was "meeehhh" at best but still a ton of hot women around. Sunday after 12 was a sausage party through not kidding like 6 guys for every girl it was horrible.
But you should definitely go, its not even a question. Fridays / Saturdays are the power days so arriving around 7-8 is perfect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vifate;2408993]Thank a lot for great tips! I might try Thursday. I haven't found it in last 50 pages of the forum. Where do you keep the cache? [/QUOTE]First, you can change 100 Eur to far more useful 50's and 20's at the front desk. Or if you are at a bank automat outside, many ATMs offer the option to get a mix of bills. But no need to stress over this as all can be done at reception desk. They have lots of cash (ha ha). Thursday is a good night. Full strength lineup, slightly less crowded than Fri-Sat.
After you pay the entrance fee, as you go up the stairs, on the left side, you will see well over 500 small safe money lockers, that both mongers and girls use. These open / close with same number as your clothes locker, using the wristband you will get upon payment. So you just store money, cell phone, etc. There. Safe, under video surveillance, and easy access.
One other thing to consider. I think the house London condoms are shit. Basically mini trash can liners. Non-latex much more sensitive. You can get various models at DM or Rossman stores, but the best feeling are made from poly-urethene which they don't have. On Amazon, there are some from Ceylor or Blausiegel. Some girls are understandably concerned about the safety of condoms brought by mongers but if you keep them in some small pocket pouch, it shows you protect them, and I have never had a problem. The good ones come in what looks like a small marmalade round dish and are also super easy to put on. No fidgetting for which side etc. These all work out to 2 Eur per use but well worth it to increase the pleasure. Big difference in feeling. If you have time, sort this before leaving.
Take it slow, good luck. Report adventures.
[QUOTE=BroteinShake69;2408917]I was at Artemis last weekend..so the line up was "meeehhh" at best but still a ton of hot women around. [/QUOTE]How can the LU be both "meh" and full of "a ton of hot women" This would violate the "Pauli Exclusion Principle", a fundamental law of physics.