Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1420166]Isn't that both a bad thing as well? We can both agree that Medellin is no Cartagena. Plop an LDV-styled club in the middle of Medellin and now all the "banditos" know where to go get gringos and their gold at. Are they planning to put tourist police around the place who will escort your taxi back to your apartment or hotel to ensure that you don't get robbed on the way back?

The good thing about the Mansion is that it is low-key. You can grab a girl and take her to up to your room or up the hill to HMP 2. It is also situated in a wealthy neighborhood with security lingering around the entire neighborhood (for different residences).

Even gringos who visit El Centro at night are mostly surrounded by broke-to-average income Colombianos (if they had money they would be at La Isla, Fase II, Luna Lunera, etc.) , so none of the thieves are hanging around there expecting to rob anyone and expecting to receive a huge payout.

Don't know why you would want to willingly paint a target on yourself by setting up a "BIG MONEY GRINGOS INSIDE" type of place in Medellin. And in what Barrio? If it gets set up in some place like Las Palmas or anywhere near Poblado (I doubt it) , then maybe gringos will not have much to worry about in the way of safety. If any of you are familiar with Clasicos in Sosua (when it was open and pre-crack down) , you know that all of the hustlers in Sosua would hang around the entrance watching who is going in and coming out. But then again, Sosua has a heavy tourist police presence.

But the truth of the matter is mongering works in Medellin because it is kept under the radar (which is why the mansion has been successful). They didn't tell Greg to place a tarp over his pool and make everyone clear the pool area by 6pm for nothing.

Hats off to them if they can pull it off. I'd be the first to say I would like to see another freelance type of bar that would rival the old Help Disco (Rio) and Clasicos in Sosua. But if it is going to compromise my safety while there then I will pass.[/QUOTE]I had the same exact thought go through my head when I first heard about this place. Every ladron in Medellin will be licking his chops and hooking up with a taxi driver to knock off the drunk assed gringos coming out of this place. I'll continue to lay low in little ol' Manizales.

Please, Mr SavePros321.

Enough of the bullshit mate, nobody has told the hotel to do anything.

Quote "They didn't tell Greg to place a tarp over his pool and make everyone clear the pool area by 6pm for nothing "Un quote".

The reason why the hotel put a cover (retractable) over the pool is because. In the afternoon 2-3pm till around 6pm, there are many apartments / offices now overlooking our swimming pool, yes, we like to keep low key and this is one way off being out of eye sight a little. People can still sun them selves and we still have parties poolside.
Now the reason why the bar "La Cueva" was built in the old garage was because guests could party more, yell, scream, play music loud, dance ect other than do all that at poolside and late into the night.
The hotel has had the bar project on the cards for more than 4 years, the hotel finally got of there ass and built it which is a very good addition to the hotel.
First BBB didn't want to have anything to do with it, no problems, it was left to MB and A. G.
Now I spent money getting the bar up and ready helping MB, then one day I woke up and said MB, its all yours mate, I'll help you get it up and running but its all yours, its your baby, and La Cueva was born.
Nobody told us, no more parties around the pool. All changes, rules ect have been made by the hotel.
The hotel also has a dress shop and in the future will have a hair salon, but nobody is talking about that.
Now the newly proposed LDV style club in Medellin has nothing to do with the hotel, I have just heard people talking about it, I wish them luck
Happy days.

A. G.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1420166]Isn't that both a bad thing as well? We can both agree that Medellin is no Cartagena. Plop an LDV-styled club in the middle of Medellin and now all the "banditos" know where to go get gringos and their gold at. Are they planning to put tourist police around the place who will escort your taxi back to your apartment or hotel to ensure that you don't get robbed on the way back?

The good thing about the Mansion is that it is low-key. You can grab a girl and take her to up to your room or up the hill to HMP 2. It is also situated in a wealthy neighborhood with security lingering around the entire neighborhood (for different residences).

Even gringos who visit El Centro at night are mostly surrounded by broke-to-average income Colombianos (if they had money they would be at La Isla, Fase II, Luna Lunera, etc.) , so none of the thieves are hanging around there expecting to rob anyone and expecting to receive a huge payout.

Don't know why you would want to willingly paint a target on yourself by setting up a "BIG MONEY GRINGOS INSIDE" type of place in Medellin. And in what Barrio? If it gets set up in some place like Las Palmas or anywhere near Poblado (I doubt it) , then maybe gringos will not have much to worry about in the way of safety. If any of you are familiar with Clasicos in Sosua (when it was open and pre-crack down) , you know that all of the hustlers in Sosua would hang around the entrance watching who is going in and coming out. But then again, Sosua has a heavy tourist police presence.

But the truth of the matter is mongering works in Medellin because it is kept under the radar (which is why the mansion has been successful). They didn't tell Greg to place a tarp over his pool and make everyone clear the pool area by 6pm for nothing.

Hats off to them if they can pull it off. I'd be the first to say I would like to see another freelance type of bar that would rival the old Help Disco (Rio) and Clasicos in Sosua. But if it is going to compromise my safety while there then I will pass.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1420166]Isn't that both a bad thing as well? We can both agree that Medellin is no Cartagena. Plop an LDV-styled club in the middle of Medellin and now all the "banditos" know where to go get gringos and their gold at. Are they planning to put tourist police around the place who will escort your taxi back to your apartment or hotel to ensure that you don't get robbed on the way back?

The good thing about the Mansion is that it is low-key. You can grab a girl and take her to up to your room or up the hill to HMP 2. It is also situated in a wealthy neighborhood with security lingering around the entire neighborhood (for different residences).

Even gringos who visit El Centro at night are mostly surrounded by broke-to-average income Colombianos (if they had money they would be at La Isla, Fase II, Luna Lunera, etc.) , so none of the thieves are hanging around there expecting to rob anyone and expecting to receive a huge payout.

Don't know why you would want to willingly paint a target on yourself by setting up a "BIG MONEY GRINGOS INSIDE" type of place in Medellin. And in what Barrio? If it gets set up in some place like Las Palmas or anywhere near Poblado (I doubt it) , then maybe gringos will not have much to worry about in the way of safety. If any of you are familiar with Clasicos in Sosua (when it was open and pre-crack down) , you know that all of the hustlers in Sosua would hang around the entrance watching who is going in and coming out. But then again, Sosua has a heavy tourist police presence.

But the truth of the matter is mongering works in Medellin because it is kept under the radar (which is why the mansion has been successful). They didn't tell Greg to place a tarp over his pool and make everyone clear the pool area by 6pm for nothing.

Hats off to them if they can pull it off. I'd be the first to say I would like to see another freelance type of bar that would rival the old Help Disco (Rio) and Clasicos in Sosua. But if it is going to compromise my safety while there then I will pass.[/QUOTE]Well I'm not one to downplay the potential dangerous side of Colombia, however, I'm sure this new LDV type bar will employ security, payoff policia for keeping an eye out, radio taxi availability, etc, etc.

These guys, the owners of the club, I'm sure aren't total idiotas.

I mean I wouldn't pick up a chica there then have her call her taxista friend for transportation.

Got to luv Mangos

[QUOTE=SoloAdvntrer;1419812]I frequently check out this forum, in hopes of enticing myself to finally visit Medellin. I'm contemplating a two night visit to Medellin from Cartagena this month. Medellin being such a big city Leaves me feeling worried of being lost upon my arrival. It seems like for someone such as myslef, the best course of action would be to book a room at La Mansion. But I'm having lots of trouble finding this place. I can't find a number or an email me tha allows me to get in contact with anyone. I'm hoping if someone can help me out and point me in the right direction. Also, I'm wondering if anyone has made a map similar to that of hillbilly's of Cartagena. I hope for a lot of feedback. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Check webpage hotelmedellinplaza. Com.

There you find all the information needed, this is new name of the Mansion

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1420291]Well I'm not one to downplay the potential dangerous side of Colombia, however, I'm sure this new LDV type bar will employ security, payoff policia for keeping an eye out, radio taxi availability, etc, etc.

These guys, the owners of the club, I'm sure aren't total idiotas.

I mean I wouldn't pick up a chica there then have her call her taxista friend for transportation.[/QUOTE]Dollhouse and Alamo both were supposed to be puta bars. Been in both while they were open. More to the Dollhouse story thsn I know but it was not filled with girls as people hoped although thete was some lookers. Alamo had Gregs former best friend the bouncer from the Mansion as security at Alamo and showed me the putas. A few lookers but druggies. What was wrong with their business plans? Certainly both places were too much in your face instead of incognito. I hope Barrio Colombia works for them as a location and they do well.

[QUOTE=Petersmith; 1419463]Looking at some of the websites, it appears that there is much talent (and beauty) on many of the escort websites. First, I have no idea if the escort sites are reliable. Assuming reliability, the prices seem comparable to the clubs and bars.

I am one who does not like bars. If I can meet chicas through the websites, am I not better off than having to go the clubs and

Bars? As mentioned above, it does not appear to be much discrepancy in prices.

I would love to hear your thoughts regarding the usage of the escort websites.[/QUOTE]I don't know about all websites but Masajista paisas and paisa divinas are reliable. Most of these girls have apartments to you can also go see them and walk away if you do not like what you see.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1420461]Dollhouse and Alamo both were supposed to be puta bars. Been in both while they were open. More to the Dollhouse story thsn I know but it was not filled with girls as people hoped although thete was some lookers. Alamo had Gregs former best friend the bouncer from the Mansion as security at Alamo and showed me the putas. A few lookers but druggies. What was wrong with their business plans? Certainly both places were too much in your face instead of incognito. I hope Barrio Colombia works for them as a location and they do well.[/QUOTE]You make a good point.

I'm no businessman, don't pretend to be, don't want to be.

Sounds like a great idea though and I hope it works out for them, us, me and the chicas as well. 👍👍

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1420295]Got to luv Mangos[/QUOTE]I thought Mangos was closed?

Hilly,
He wasn't my "best friend" never was, he was fired for stealing, from guests and the hotel.
I just don't know why people make up shit.
The new club, it will be interesting how it goes, happy days.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1420461]Dollhouse and Alamo both were supposed to be puta bars. Been in both while they were open. More to the Dollhouse story thsn I know but it was not filled with girls as people hoped although thete was some lookers. Alamo had Gregs former best friend the bouncer from the Mansion as security at Alamo and showed me the putas. A few lookers but druggies. What was wrong with their business plans? Certainly both places were too much in your face instead of incognito. I hope Barrio Colombia works for them as a location and they do well.[/QUOTE]

If this has been asked and answered already, please accept my apologies.

A friend who stay at the mansion recently confirmed that there's a list of girls who are persona non grata because of working with guys that stay in apartments. I understand they can still can come to the Mansion if invited by a guest but they're off Robert's call-out list. I'm told that he's gone as far as to ask taxi drivers where they take the girls when they leave the mansion (although I personally doubt that)

So, how exactly would a new LDV type club work especially if Robert is going to be very hands on. I would assume that you're going to need more than the guests at the Mansion / Castillo to stay viable. And I seriously doubt this bar will be catering to Colombians, so where are the gringos coming from?

And if you're a girl that is still on the Mansion call out list, would you dare leave with someone staying in an apartment, right in front of Robert? Will this entire endeavor be simply a place for guys to come drink and collect numbers / facebook contacts?

What would keep this bar from becoming a Dollhouse debacle, where the girls sat there nursing one drink all night and quoted ridiculous prices only to watch the guys walk out side and head to Mayorista?

Taking the other side, if I'm a Mansion guest who's already giving Robert money, and I have both girls being invited in AND an onsite bar if I wish to drink with them, why would I go to yet another bar in another area of town to give Robert more money? And if there's a shit-list of girls that can't come to the mansion because of past work with the condo guys, what would be the incentive for them to go sit in a bar? I would think that if you're playing divide and conquer to try and survive against the apartment renters, having them come to another bar to peruse current Mansion girls seems counterproductive to me.

There's also an inherent risk to the girls, what if they don't find work? Who pays the taxi or the baby-sitter? If you're one of 8-10 girls coming to the Mansion for the 10 guests there plus another 8-10 from up the hill, you have a decent chance of finding a willing gringo. But I don't see these girls going to this bar unescorted hoping to find work. I do see, for a short period of time, guys that aren't staying in the Mansion taking apartment girls there in lieu of say a Dulce Jesus Mio or mangos (which closed?)

Again, apologies if this has already been asked and answered

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]A friend who stay at the mansion recently confirmed that there's a list of girls who are persona non grata because of working with guys that stay in apartments. I understand they can still can come to the Mansion if invited by a guest but they're off Robert's call-out list. I'm told that he's gone as far as to ask taxi drivers where they take the girls when they leave the mansion (although I personally doubt that)[/QUOTE]I don't get this. I stayed at the Mansion for a week and the only guys I saw inside the place were the ones staying there. Except for a friend of mine that paid Robert 50K cop to get into Bar. Robert said that the girls were for Mansion guests but that he would let my friend in for 50 mill because there were a lot more girls than guys that night. My friend ended up taking a girl out of there to his apartment. I assume Robert had little doubt that would probably happen.

From talking to the girls at the Mansion. They tell me that what they make is all theirs. Neither Robert nor the Mansion takes a cut. So why would they be worried about what the chicks do outside of the place. They don't seem to be pimping the chicks at all.

From what the girls told me. They have to ask Robert through Facebook to work and out of the ones that ask to work he selects that ones that will ultimately show up.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]So, how exactly would a new LDV type club work especially if Robert is going to be very hands on. I would assume that you're going to need more than the guests at the Mansion / Castillo to stay viable. And I seriously doubt this bar will be catering to Colombians, so where are the gringos coming from?[/QUOTE]With 90 percent or more of the Mongers in Medellin being Colombianos. They better be catering to the Colombians as well.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]And if you're a girl that is still on the Mansion call out list, would you dare leave with someone staying in an apartment, right in front of Robert? Will this entire endeavor be simply a place for guys to come drink and collect numbers / facebook contacts?[/QUOTE]Well unless they have rooms in the back where else are you going to take them except to your apartment. I'm not familiar with the La Vida Dulce freelance concept. Do freelance bars charge a multa to take the girls out of the bar?

I don't know that Robert will be calling the Mansion chicks up to work at the bar. But I would personally love the opportunity of meeting the Mansion chicks without having to stay at the Mansion. The best thing about the Mansion is the women. They are a pleasure to be around in or out of bed. Someone has definitely made an effort to weed out the poor performers and women with attitudes.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]Taking the other side, if I'm a Mansion guest who's already giving Robert money, and I have both girls being invited in AND an onsite bar if I wish to drink with them, why would I go to yet another bar in another area of town to give Robert more money? And if there's a shit-list of girls that can't come to the mansion because of past work with the condo guys, what would be the incentive for them to go sit in a bar? I would think that if you're playing divide and conquer to try and survive against the apartment renters, having them come to another bar to peruse current Mansion girls seems counterproductive to me.[/QUOTE]They only reason to stay at the Mansion or give Robert any money is to meet his women. I wonder just how many women Robert has in his pool and if anybody else has the master list. If I stay at the Mansion for a month will I have met all of his women or only half?

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]There's also an inherent risk to the girls, what if they don't find work? Who pays the taxi or the baby-sitter? If you're one of 8-10 girls coming to the Mansion for the 10 guests there plus another 8-10 from up the hill, you have a decent chance of finding a willing gringo. But I don't see these girls going to this bar unescorted hoping to find work. I do see, for a short period of time, guys that aren't staying in the Mansion taking apartment girls there in lieu of say a Dulce Jesus Mio or mangos (which closed?)[/QUOTE]Good question. I met a couple of chicks that came from small towns outside of Medellin at the Mansion. I was wondering why they were there so early in the morning and they told me that they didn't live in Medellin and that Robert put them up. I wonder if he helped pay for their bus fare to get there. Also met a chick that lived in Bello which is probably 20 to 25 mill one way to the Mansion by taxi.

I'm new to the MDE thread but I've posted about my experiences in Germany as well as a few reports elsewhere.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin for business soon. I was wondering-from the outside, is it obvious that this place is a monger's hotel or could it pass for a normal hotel? I guess what I'm asking is, if one of my work contacts in town finds out I'm staying there, will my secret be blown?

Also, I'll be out working during the day and maybe until 7-8pm or later on some days. Will there be any good girls left at that hour or will the good ones get taken early?

Because I'm there primarily for work and because I'll have limited time, it seems like the ideal setup for me. But I don't know how careful I'll have to be about my local contacts finding out where I'm staying. The website seems relatively discreet, so I could always just claim ignorance I guess.

Generally, I hate escorts since I like to see what I'm going to get. I like freelance bars and to a lesser extent, clubs. I like the atmosphere and the ability to meet and interview girls ahead of time. I don't care so much for LT, and don't mind the occasional quickie, but I do like good, unrushed service most of the time. I don't mind streetwalkers but I'm pretty picky, I like young (legal of course) clean girls and prefer them to be slim with no silicone.

I'd be very grateful for any advice and I'll be sure to post about my experiences after my trip.

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1420804]From talking to the girls at the Mansion. They tell me that what they make is all theirs. Neither Robert nor the Mansion takes a cut. So why would they be worried about what the chicks do outside of the place. They don't seem to be pimping the chicks at all.[/QUOTE]It's pretty simple actually. If you have a way of meeting their girls outside of the mansion, then you obviously will not be spending money on their hotel rooms or spending money in Robert's bar. They want exclusivity, which is why (if you haven't noticed) they have gotten smart and tightened up their friends lists on facebook so that guys don't poach from their network.

The threat is very real to the chicas in the form of not being allowed to work at the mansion. I have had a few chicas personally beg me not to mention that they met me outside of the mansion. It's not because they are afraid that Robert is going lay the pimp-hand down and pimp-slap a ho, but he CAN threaten their ability to meet more gringos by not allowing them to come to his bar. The flip side is that if a chica is pretty popular, then facebook or Romance Latina (which is also owned by Robert) is all she needs. These girls are not dumb. If she's got a bunch of gringos blowing up her cell phone and facebook inbox during the day beggin to give her money, she is not going to just ignore them and sit around all day waiting until she can go to the bar at the mansion at 6pm.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1420783]There's also an inherent risk to the girls, what if they don't find work? Who pays the taxi or the baby-sitter? If you're one of 8-10 girls coming to the Mansion for the 10 guests there plus another 8-10 from up the hill, you have a decent chance of finding a willing gringo. But I don't see these girls going to this bar unescorted hoping to find work.[/QUOTE]I agree. Most of these chicas stay 30-45 minutes away via taxi. Almost double that during peak traffic times. Most of them need a guarantee from you that you will pay their taxi when they arrive before they will even order one to come and see you. I don't see them risking paying 10k+ for a taxi to this new LDV-type club and getting stuck there if they don't find a gringo and don't have 10k+ more to get back home. But who knows? Maybe the chicas for this club will come from closer neighborhoods (?). In the end I would say don't be surprised if this club ends up being another Luna Lunera (which at first did not start off charging a multa to take a chica off premises).

[QUOTE=Likemflat; 1420909]I'm planning a trip to Medellin for business soon. I was wondering-from the outside, is it obvious that this place is a monger's hotel or could it pass for a normal hotel? I guess what I'm asking is, if one of my work contacts in town finds out I'm staying there, will my secret be blown?

Because I'm there primarily for work and because I'll have limited time, it seems like the ideal setup for me. But I don't know how careful I'll have to be about my local contacts finding out where I'm staying. The website seems relatively discreet, so I could always just claim ignorance I guess.[/QUOTE]And how did you find this website address? Is it on hotelxs. Com? Maybe recommended by a friend? .

Also, you claim ignorance and having found the web site by chance on google. Then, after 2 days you stay there, you could still claim ignorance if your local colleagues ask you innocently "how is it? You like?"