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[QUOTE=Raideen; 1468537]There are several KTVs on Alabang-Zapote Roads, Las Pinas. BF is as low as 2500p. It is true that you can find better rate at Angeles. But the quallity of WGs of Las Pinas was way better than that of Angeles and showed better attitudes as far as I have experienced.

C. If I can find a girl who only want to enjoy sex, no special relationship, then it would be great. But, I do not know how to distinguish them on internet.

D. Simply, I have no idea what to say to girls on dating site. LOL.

As you said, I may stay in Malate or Makati area where I can find a lot of accommodations, restaurants, and other facilities and give a visit to Las Pinas by taxi if needed. The reason why I decided to lodge in Las Pinas is because I want to minimize my taxi usage as little as possible. I feel the bargaining process that I need to undertake whenever I use a taxi is extremely annoying. It is one of things that I hate most in Philippines. I booked Eurotel Las Pinas. From there I can get to SM Southmall in 3 minutes by walk and find some places to eat.

I do not know if it is Quezon Provice or Quezon City. But I can tell you that I will be staying near Capitol Medical Center on Quezon avenue.

Yes. The KTVs like Pegasus or Classmates are way too expensive and I will not try them. I am planning to have fun at KTVs with price range of 6 7000p for BF. On my last trip, I found a WG with nice pair of boobs at a KTV, 'Chaparral'. I am cosidering reivist there and try other KTVs. One candidate is 'Queen's Chamber'.

I will be staying Malate afterwards. Can you recommend me a KTV near airport? Approx price range and contact info of it would be very helpful for me.

Unfortunately, I do not have the confidence in my apperance like 'CaliPro' does. I do not think I can try that.

Las Pinas: Had met a girl with nice boobies. Relatively cheap.

Quezon: Had met a girl with nice boobies.

Angeles: Bar Hopping. Save Budget.

Malate: Want to stay near airport before my departure. EDSA (The price was different on every report. BF. 1600p, Tip for L / T- 4000p, is it correct?)

Right, I am still kind of newbie in here. It will be my fourth visit to Philippines, and last one was about 1 year ago.

I will be in Philippines very soon (next Tue) and I do not think I can find a wingman in such a short time. However, some simple advices would be very helpful for me.

I posted my schedule in hope to join any other fellow monger who has overlapping schedule with me. I believe it can certainly increase the safery as well as guarantee more fun.[/QUOTE]Lots of information here from an admitted newbie. Please do file a field report after your trip. Las Pinas does not get much commentary in the forum, so your comments are appreciated. If you like it there and prices are good, maybe it is a good plan.

You were in Quezon City. Quezon Province is over the mountains, many kilometers to the east. It borders the Pacific Ocean. There are others who will pay the KTV prices you report, but many on the ISG board would see this as expensive mongering.

You can do the dating site thing without having to get seriously involved with a woman. Lots of good advice recently in the dating site thread about making it clear that your intentions are about "entertaining in your hotel room," as one guy put it. Read the advice there over the last several days. Good stuff.

Two KTV / Massage parlor places near the airport: Starfleet and Air Force One. Haven't been many recent reports, but nothing suggests they are in decline. Download Google Earth and search for either one by name, and location in Paranque City. Once you locate the first the other one can be seen nearby; they're on the same road. Particularly if you go during the day, prices are less than you are quoting for QC places. Many guys opt to take their chosen girl to a massage room, where they get a massage and full service.

You do not need to be 27 and full of yourself to score mall girls. Just walk slowly, smile, and look directly at women sitting or walking nearby who make eye contact. If they are in the business they will gesture or smile. Then you just need the confidence to approach them. In Robinson's Place mall I have often seen them sitting at Starbucks at the tables outside the door toward the inside of the mall. I also have seen them sitting at tables in the cheaper sit down establishments around the first floor-McDonalds, Kenny Rogers, and the all you can eat place. Just look into these areas for the tables to the outside near the walkway of the mall, make eye contact, and see how they react. These are not freebies, but they are also not expensive, and they will not be surprised if you try to bargain the price. One way to get things started is to walk up to them, pass a few simple small talk comments, and then ask if you can buy them a soda, coffee, dessert, or similar. Your opening line can be something as simple as "is the food any good here, or should I go somewhere else"? "Hey, I'll buy you a dessert if you eat it to show me it's safe." Then just let the conversation take its own course. If they are up for business they will start asking if you have a hotel room, if you "want a massage," "want a girl," or something similar. Remember, they are at least as eager to get a paying customer as you are to get laid.

If you locate Harrison Place Mall in southern Malate (near Century Park Hotel) , it's much more run down than Robinson's. Make your way to the second floor and walk slowly all the way around. The p4ps are often hanging out along the railing overlooking the lower floor, or sometimes hanging out near the stands. Same rules apply: smile, make eye contact, and wait to see how they respond. Some of these gals may not be top shelf, but price will not put a hole in your pocket. I was there in March one day. I knew I was two hours away from being expected to deliver my libido with my squeeze, so I had no plans to pick up a p4p. But in a short walk around the second floor I saw three or four, and two of them initiated conversation with me. I was making a point to look at potential women and make eye contact. P4ps know why you are making eye contact, and the good girls will think you're just an odd Asian. By the way, I do not find Filipinas are offended by eye contact the way some East Asians are.

I have not been to EDSA in several years, but there are reports to be found about what others are paying.

My general feedback to you is that you are paying way more than you need to. Lots of delightful entertainment to be had for much less money, and in my experience the lower cost women often are less mercenary and more likely to give real GFE.

Good luck, and do post after action reports.

Okay, I have been to Manila more than a few times, but being a creature of habit, I tend to limit my activities to two locations. I either go to Makati. Where I have pretty good success at Havana or MBC, which is well reviewed. I have also done The Burgos thing, but stay as far from there as I can now, do to outrageous prices and underwhelming service, at least in my experience. So this is the issue, I need to stay near the airport this time. In fact I am staying at the Airport Hotel, which is about as close as you can get. The original plan was to arrive about 2 am and be on the road with my friends by 9 or 10 the next morning when everyone arrived. Well the plan went awry and now I am stuck until early afternoon, and I am arrive about 8 pm the night before.

I have read about Star Fleet and Air Force One. I know they are more expensive than Havana or MBC, but I think they are closely located to the airport. I have heard about the EDSA entertainment complex, but have never been there. I have seen a road near the bay / USA embassy that seems to have a lot of clubs, or at least KTV; s along it as I was headed out of town to AC from Manila, but never stopped. I tried to search the forum, but here comes the Forest Gump thing. The only search results I can get are more than 2 years old almost. I know there are more recent posts, heck I saw a post today that mentioned Star Fleet, but it didn't show up when I did the search. I recall it being said that the girls at those places tend to worth the extra charges.

I an willing to accept that I am not much when it comes to computer stuff. But geez. I am just trying to find a place I can go and convince an attractive lass to come with me back to my hotel room (first choice) or use her facility. I don't want to waste an evening stashed in my hotel room.

I am open to suggestions or if someone could share the search technique, I would gladly RTFF. I know all the info is here.

TIA.

Sky

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1468596]Dunno where you are looking for the ladies Ronnie, but I don't see or talk to any who are more than 50 kgs and I have an impressive batting average.

The current 3 regualrs that I see are 39kgs, (has a 20 inch waist) 42kg and for variety. 45. Yes there are some short squat stocky (" I'm chubby but lovely" types) , but they are generally not to be seen on PB or even Edsa. And yeah the housewives surely do attract the Jollibee belly with their need to eat 5 meals a days. But the young ladies. Generally not chubby at all.[/QUOTE]I'd say in Manila, the super skinny crowd is getting thinner and thinner (no pun intended). Perhaps the mall isn't the best example, but if you goto SM Makati and look at the employees, you don't find the skinny crowd to be the wide majority. I really think the diet has had a huge impact on pinays. I must confess that I have only lived in Manila for the past three years, but this has been my observation. Yes, skinny girls can be found, but they aren't the norm.

Just wondering what your experiences have been. If the case of in home massages, I found that you are likely to find more ES available if the prices are on the low or high end of the scale. I usually find my ladies on sulit, and I guess the lower the price (ex: 200-250 / hr) , their take is so low that they are more open to ES and the higher end they are very open to touching, so ES is easier to negotiate as it is almost expected. Of course you also have the mid priced (700 / hr) places where ES is the main menu item, but those don't count. One place that I frequented a lot was ky*you spa, but they no longer advertise on sulit. FS could be had for about 3000, but it was only an hour, so if you want longer, perhaps finding a pro is better.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1468745]I have seen a road near the bay / USA embassy that seems to have a lot of clubs, or at least KTV;s along it as I was headed out of town to AC from Manila, but never stopped.[/QUOTE]This road is Roxas Blvd and yes, many KTVs, especially between Ocampo and Buendia. I'd give them a miss. At Roxas and Ocampo I've been to Silhouette once to visit a girl I picked up in a bar after her work a few weeks earlier. It's a videoke place with hostesses; to me nothing could be less exciting. Though you can buy individual drinks they push the 60/90-minute all-you-can-drink deal because you'll be buying the girl her drinks at p350-400 a pop. Near Silhouette is Infinity 8, which has a floor show and strippers, but a sign hangs in front of it trumpeting "new management", so I have no idea what's in store for the customer now. Drinks were expensive and Infinity 8 wanted to add on a p350-400 per person show charge, which I think is hardly worth it. Both places were well worn. Pretty girls, though nothing compelling enough to pay a visit. Further down Roxas you'll see cluster of Filipino-type bars where you can do the beer-bucket thing, which I do like, but in other areas.

Really your drive along Roxas to MBC is only a few minutues further from the places I mentioned. But if you want to try something new, and stay nearer to your hotel, then I'd recommend EDSA International Complex. More expensive than MBC but cheaper than Burgos. And if nothing rocks your world at EDSA you're just minutes from MBC.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1468757]. snip. But if you want to try something new, and stay nearer to your hotel, then I'd recommend EDSA International Complex. More expensive than MBC but cheaper than Burgos. And if nothing rocks your world at EDSA you're just minutes from MBC.[/QUOTE]I agree with Huts on this one.

Definitely EDSA IEC is the place where you can be certain to find a woman of choice.

MBC as a second option is further from the Airport Hotel and it will be hit or miss that you find someone to your liking.

I stand by the comments that most are fat mingers. A casual observation will tell anyone that. I do take the point that maybe I don't know where to look. But after P. Burgos, EDSA, la Cafe (haven't been there for years I admit) and Greenbelt Havana have I missed somewhere major? I've been to AC. More there and I did shag a hotth a few years back. But it too is full of dumpy girls. As for Manila or Phil girls better than Thai that's just fucking ridiculous. And you my friend need the glasses. BTW I don't engage in flaming contest on ISG so won't reply to further flames.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger; 1468381]. I won't be going back there.[/QUOTE]RM, thanks for staying out of AC and the rest of the PI. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. I have never banged so many hundred pound cuties anywhere like the PI.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1468650]If you locate Harrison Place Mall in southern Malate (near Century Park Hotel) , it's much more run down than Robinson's. Make your way to the second floor and walk slowly all the way around. The p4ps are often hanging out along the railing overlooking the lower floor, or sometimes hanging out near the stands. Same rules apply: smile, make eye contact, and wait to see how they respond. Some of these gals may not be top shelf, but price will not put a hole in your pocket. I was there in March one day. I knew I was two hours away from being expected to deliver my libido with my squeeze, so I had no plans to pick up a p4p. But in a short walk around the second floor I saw three or four, and two of them initiated conversation with me. I was making a point to look at potential women and make eye contact. P4ps know why you are making eye contact, and the good girls will think you're just an odd Asian. By the way, I do not find Filipinas are offended by eye contact the way some East Asians are.[/QUOTE]My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1468855]My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.[/QUOTE]You are going to spend a heap of cash if you plan to travel between all those places as well as Makati. The Fort and QC.

You will also need to ensure that security is well-paid and well-briefed in your apartment if you plan to stay close to Harrison Plaza. Once girls know where you are staying they will not be shy in making return visits even after you finish with them. They will also stalk you too.
You will need security to keep them out which will be difficult as it is likely that a girl will offer favors to the guards if they let her in, even if you pay them.

I suspect your meagre dollars and cut-price mongering budget might take quite an unexpected hit CP.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1468855]My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.[/QUOTE]The boy is geographically ambitious and financially delusional.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1468745]I am staying at the Airport Hotel, which is about as close as you can get. The original plan was to arrive about 2 am and be on the road with my friends by 9 or 10 the next morning when everyone arrived. Well the plan went awry and now I am stuck until early afternoon, and I am arrive about 8 pm the night before.[/QUOTE]There is a two or three block section of Airport Road near the airport with a couple of "massage parlors" and a bunch of clubs with GROs hanging around outside. I discovered it by accident in March when I spent a short hotel night there before an early morning flight departure. My squeeze was with me, so I eye-balled the women and bars by walking behind my squeeze, pretending to "let her go first."

Airport Road is a one-way street only about a dozen blocks long. It intersects Roxas between NAIA Road and EDSA, but it is one-way the wrong way, so you can't turn onto it from Roxas. Some cab drivers may not know it exists. It is a continuation of Andrews Avenue, which is the road that goes past Terminal Three. Heading west from Terminal Three Andrews becomes one-way and is named Airport Road as you cross a bridge over a canal that separates Pasay City from Paranaque.

You can get there from the Manila Airport Hotel by heading away from Terminal One, turn right on Aquino Avenue, then left at NAIA Road. Turn on Quirino, the second major street to the right, and just past the canal (Paranaque River, I think). Airport Road is the first substantial cross street on Quirino; I think there's a traffic light. Airport Road is one-way to your left. There are several clubs and parlors in that section to the left. I didn't venture into the area off to the right of that intersection.

Perhaps some of the expats can comment as to safety in these places. CS lives not far away. The danger in some bars is that locals do not welcome foreigners, even if the girls will take all cummers. If I were uncertain I would lean toward the massage parlors, since there are not likely to be drinking locals hanging around inside. But I welcome input from anybody with more knowledge of the area.

You can check this all out on Google maps, complete with street names. You do not need to be a computer whiz. BTW, the Manila Airport Hotel, if that is where you are staying, is better for short time than long time, because many rooms have two twin beds rather than double beds.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1469082]You are going to spend a heap of cash if you plan to travel between all those places as well as Makati. The Fort and QC.

You will also need to ensure that security is well-paid and well-briefed in your apartment if you plan to stay close to Harrison Plaza. Once girls know where you are staying they will not be shy in making return visits even after you finish with them. They will also stalk you too.

You will need security to keep them out which will be difficult as it is likely that a girl will offer favors to the guards if they let her in, even if you pay them.

I suspect your meagre dollars and cut-price mongering budget might take quite an unexpected hit CP.[/QUOTE]Will only go to Makati, The Fort, and QC probably once each. No issue there. My main transport expense will be taking a jeepney up and down Mambini St. to Malate from my apartment. Which will nnot be much IMO as jeepneys are dirt cheap.

The apartment has a doorman / security. Not much I can do about crazy stalker girls. If it happens I'll just have to deal with it.

I'll have $15,000 USD saved when I leave Korea and will only be in SEA for 56 days. 16 of which will be in Manila. Only plan on spending $3,500-4,000 USD on this SEA trip. Then a short visit back home in the states before setting off to Colombia for 2 months. I don't have a mongering budget as I won't be paying for any sex on this trip, unless you count ice cream, cheap lunch, and a few beers as paying.

Nov. 29 can't get here soon enough!

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1468855]My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.[/QUOTE]To Calipro.

If you are not going to paid for sex why even bother to hit all this place no girl will fuck you for free there, all girl in this place is there to make money to support their family don't be stupid and naive all you going to get is old lady in the st.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1469307]To Calipro.

If you are not going to paid for sex why even bother to hit all this place no girl will fuck you for free there, all girl in this place is there to make money to support their family don't be stupid and naive all you going to get is old lady in the st.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Eddie, I think you are forgetting that he is a gift from God. All the girls are just waiting to drop their panties for him.

CP, I'm not sure why you really post at all. It just seems like you like to gloat about your future endeavors that may or may not occur. I notice you are doing the same thing on the Cambodia thread. You ask for advice and when given you have to make it clear you have not nor will you ever P4P.

It's all just rather amusing to me.

FLT.