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At FastEddie,

You are quite naive if you think hookers don't fuck guys for free. I've done it plenty of times in numerous countries. LOL at me fucking some street walkers. I am going to MBC to mack the waitresses not the FLs.

At FLT,

Not sure what you mean by gloating. I merely come on here to get info, ask questions, and post trip reports. What you deem as gloating is merely me dealing with haters and people telling me I can't do x etc. Yes, sometimes I must clarify I am not a monger when I am getting advice about "paying" for hookers. As that advice or info is not of use to me. These forums are good for finding information not directly related to paying hookers ie GF hotels, bars / clubs, restaurants, dating websites, transportation, etc.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1469346]At FastEddie,

You are quite naive if you think hookers don't fuck guys for free. I've done it plenty of times in numerous countries. LOL at me fucking some street walkers. I am going to MBC to mack the waitresses not the FLs.[/QUOTE]Totally true, if you have some game, guts and a sense of humor, one shouldn't have to pay hookers for sex in Asia, especially in the Philippines. That's not to say I haven't done so on occasion, but more often than not (actually, always) I'm able to score freebies in just about every setting. CaliPro mentions MBC waitresses. I've taken three back to my room on three different trips. Once they're convinced you're 'not like all the other guys' who come there to find h00kers, they're all yours. I do buy them dinner and a bit of shopping, but that's called dating, isn't it? :-)

if you're planning on taking mambini street, you'll never find a jeepney, never get to where you are going and never return. wish i could be a stray dog on the street watching you pass through neighborhoods by harrison where hundreds of migrants from mindanao live, eat, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and * on the street or in trikes. indeed you just might score some cheap poon tang in one of those areas for the price of a bowl of rice but you'll have to feed the whole family and that's probably above your daily budget

[quote=slippery;1469435]if you're planning on taking mambini street, you'll never find a jeepney, never get to where you are going and never return. wish i could be a stray dog on the street watching you pass through neighborhoods by harrison where hundreds of migrants from mindanao live, eat, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and * on the street or in trikes. indeed you just might score some cheap poon tang in one of those areas for the price of a bowl of rice but you'll have to feed the whole family and that's probably above your daily budget[/quote]no problem, i'll take a taxi or train if need be.

i have no budget that i have to adhere to.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1469405]Totally true, if you have some game, guts and a sense of humor, one shouldn't have to pay hookers for sex in Asia, especially in the Philippines. That's not to say I haven't done so on occasion, but more often than not (actually, always) I'm able to score freebies in just about every setting. CaliPro mentions MBC waitresses. I've taken three back to my room on three different trips. Once they're convinced you're 'not like all the other guys' who come there to find h00kers, they're all yours. I do buy them dinner and a bit of shopping, but that's called dating, isn't it? :-)[/QUOTE]FastEddie knows this, he is just being a hater.

This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.

There is no reason for anyone (young or old) to have to pay for girls in the Philippines if they don't want to. Nothing wrong with paying though if you have the cash to burn and don't want to deal with the inconveniences of getting girls for free (chatting, messaging online, dates, time, etc) I myself have paid for 4 hookers in my life time. 1 in Costa Rica. 2 in Colombia and 1 in Manila on my last night as I had some pesos to get rid of and only a few hours before my flight left. We are all here for same reason which is to have fun and enjoy the Philippines. As the old man alwas said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. No need for hating fellas.

Post #11513 you only plan on spending $3, 500. 00 to $4, 000. 00 this SEA trip. Sounds like a budget to me. And the jokes on you Pro. There is no Mambini Street.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1469457]FastEddie knows this, he is just being a hater.

This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.

There is no reason for anyone (young or old) to have to pay for girls in the Philippines if they don't want to. Nothing wrong with paying though if you have the cash to burn and don't want to deal with the inconveniences of getting girls for free (chatting, messaging online, dates, time, etc) I myself have paid for 4 hookers in my life time. 1 in Costa Rica. 2 in Colombia and 1 in Manila on my last night as I had some pesos to get rid of and only a few hours before my flight left. We are all here for same reason which is to have fun and enjoy the Philippines. As the old man alwas said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. No need for hating fellas.[/QUOTE]I'm not hating on you trying to get girls other ways than P4P. I am heading there in a week and have also been working the online game trying to set up as much as I can before I get there. I just think your approach towards other members at times is a bit uncalled for given what this forum is all about.

All in all, I hope you have a successful and enjoyable trip.

FLT.

[QUOTE=CaliPro;1469457]This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.[/QUOTE]The problem for you CP is that you are asking all about known P4P places with a plan to go there and find women and not pay.

This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.

If you are straight up about using DIA or shopping malls etc for freebies then that's quite OK but to assume that ANYONE from MBC or places like that will not expect payment is wrong. Girls do not go to p4p places just to meet young hansum men like CP for sex as he seems to think.

If you don't plan to pay, I hope you are upfront about it and make it clear to the girl at the outset.

If you don't make it clear, and then send them off without any cash after the deed when they expect payment, then you better not return to the scene a second time because someone will catch up with you.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1469555]This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.[/QUOTE]Agreed. There are clubs around the Metro area where a young good looking Westerner might score an occasional Pinay freebie. It's probably also true with some women from the online dating sites. More power to you: score some hot young women who have economic alternatives in life. But the women at MBC and those hanging out around the second floor railing at the Harrison Mall are poor women who do p4p because they don't have any comparable alternatives for feeding themselves-and usually kids left to them by fathers who deserted them. Unless the rules have changed, waitresses at MBC are not allowed to date the customers. If you get them to cheat on those rules, you're endangering their meager livelihood. The waitresses are very poorly paid and work long days without much time off.

CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1469538]Post #11513 you only plan on spending $3, 500. 00 to $4, 000. 00 this SEA trip. Sounds like a budget to me. And the jokes on you Pro. There is no Mambini Street.[/QUOTE]Might be a budget to you, especially if you are staying in nice hotels, eating at nice restaurants, and paying for women to fuck you. To me 4,000 USD for 56 days is plenty. 20 dollars on accommodations and around 50 dollars for cheap dates and beers. And by the way it is only a budget in that is what I am expecting to spend, not a budget in that it is all I have and that I must stick to it. Like I said, I am leaving Korea with 15,000 USD saved. Money on this SEA trip is of no concern to me. If I spend less than expected great, if I spend more, no big problem.

[QUOTE=FLT09; 1469544]I'm not hating on you trying to get girls other ways than P4P. I am heading there in a week and have also been working the online game trying to set up as much as I can before I get there. I just think your approach towards other members at times is a bit uncalled for given what this forum is all about.

All in all, I hope you have a successful and enjoyable trip.

FLT.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned you need to read my interactions with other members from start to finish. I am never first to gloat or put down someone. As I told you earlier, I come on here to seek information and post trip reports. Nothing more, nothing less. The problem is, the first time some realizes I am x years old and that I don't really do p4p they get all defensive and stat attacking or hating on me.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1469555]The problem for you CP is that you are asking all about known P4P places with a plan to go there and find women and not pay.

This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.

If you are straight up about using DIA or shopping malls etc for freebies then that's quite OK but to assume that ANYONE from MBC or places like that will not expect payment is wrong. Girls do not go to p4p places just to meet young hansum men like CP for sex as he seems to think.

If you don't plan to pay, I hope you are upfront about it and make it clear to the girl at the outset.

If you don't make it clear, and then send them off without any cash after the deed when they expect payment, then you better not return to the scene a second time because someone will catch up with you.[/QUOTE]Actually, I primarily go to those places for the ambience. At least in the Philippines as there are plenty of girls from online, the malls, and normal night clubs, of better quality I might add, where I don't need to or rely on picking up WGs for free. As I pointed out before, I go to MBC because I like to atmosphere and to flirt with the waitresses. Most of the WGs there are ugly from my mild observations.

How is it being dishonest when they know I don't pay from the start and that I am only in town for a few days ie no potential relationship etc? I don't lie to girls making them believe they can be my gf. If a girl hangsout with me it because she wants to with full understanding that at most she is going to get a free meal, some beers, and get to sleep in my hotel / apartment.

Sure girls don't go to MBC to meet young guys like me. Why would they as there are not many young guys like me there. This doesn't mean that they don't or wouldn't leave with me with full understanding that no money was going to be exchanged. Been doing this since my first trip to Brazil in 2009 at the Balcony Bar in Rio. Point blank told the girl I didn't pay for sex and she said she didn't care and wanted to spend the night with me. This girls are human you know. They can be attracted to a guy physically and personality wise and not be thinking about milking them for money. Even older guys can do / experience this.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1469565]Agreed. There are clubs around the Metro area where a young good looking Westerner might score an occasional Pinay freebie. It's probably also true with some women from the online dating sites. More power to you: score some hot young women who have economic alternatives in life. But the women at MBC and those hanging out around the second floor railing at the Harrison Mall are poor women who do p4p because they don't have any comparable alternatives for feeding themselves-and usually kids left to them by fathers who deserted them. Unless the rules have changed, waitresses at MBC are not allowed to date the customers. If you get them to cheat on those rules, you're endangering their meager livelihood. The waitresses are very poorly paid and work long days without much time off.

CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.[/QUOTE]Please. Spare me.

So long as someone is honest and upfront about their intentions, there is nothing wrong with spending time with a Pinay because she likes you / wants to without paying.

I've read the conversation re "freebies" with some interest and both sides' arguments have merit.

It is true that the MBC girls and the like elsewhere do live tough lives. That being said I do know that from time to time some girls may have a lucky streak, are flush with cash, and are looking for fun. You'll see many of them at the Hyatt casino. Some go on a shabu binge. And others fuck a guy they find attractive for free. Having seen what the majority of blokes at MBC look like I certainly can't blame a girl for wanting a piece of ass she finds attractive from time to time. If calipro is straight up with the girl that he isn't paying, and she agrees, that's their affair.

Far worse are the guys who stiff the girls when no such meeting of the minds was reached.

I tried the Airport Road scene one evening 2 years ago. A bicycle rickshaw took me down from the top of the road, stopping at each bar. (I did not see massage parlors). Not one place would agree to takeout. They want to sell drinks. Whether they have private back rooms, I did not ask. So then the rickshaw took me to the Rotunda. Very hush-hush, they bring out a girl while I stay inside the conveyance. I pay small money to each of the guys, and get in a taxi with the girl. We get to my hotel. The guys have not informed her what I am offering to pay! She doesn't like it. I cut her loose. All a waste of time in that area. South from the Rotunda, past the bus stands, procurers will offer you girls. The deal seems to be on-site. I have never stopped to see the wares.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1469104]There is a two or three block section of Airport Road near the airport with a couple of "massage parlors" and a bunch of clubs with GROs hanging around outside. I discovered it by accident in March when I spent a short hotel night there before an early morning flight departure. My squeeze was with me, so I eye-balled the women and bars by walking behind my squeeze, pretending to "let her go first."

Airport Road is a one-way street only about a dozen blocks long. It intersects Roxas between NAIA Road and EDSA, but it is one-way the wrong way, so you can't turn onto it from Roxas. Some cab drivers may not know it exists. It is a continuation of Andrews Avenue, which is the road that goes past Terminal Three. Heading west from Terminal Three Andrews becomes one-way and is named Airport Road as you cross a bridge over a canal that separates Pasay City from Paranaque.

You can get there from the Manila Airport Hotel by heading away from Terminal One, turn right on Aquino Avenue, then left at NAIA Road. Turn on Quirino, the second major street to the right, and just past the canal (Paranaque River, I think). Airport Road is the first substantial cross street on Quirino; I think there's a traffic light. Airport Road is one-way to your left. There are several clubs and parlors in that section to the left. I didn't venture into the area off to the right of that intersection.

Perhaps some of the expats can comment as to safety in these places. CS lives not far away. The danger in some bars is that locals do not welcome foreigners, even if the girls will take all cummers. If I were uncertain I would lean toward the massage parlors, since there are not likely to be drinking locals hanging around inside. But I welcome input from anybody with more knowledge of the area.

You can check this all out on Google maps, complete with street names. You do not need to be a computer whiz. BTW, the Manila Airport Hotel, if that is where you are staying, is better for short time than long time, because many rooms have two twin beds rather than double beds.[/QUOTE]