Angeles City

My gf has small B cup boobs that stand straight out. She goes without a bra at least half of the time, no worries.

G

[QUOTE=MrHombre;1354097]Yes, of course they want to appear to have bigger tits. But I have shopped for bras with a girl and there are absolutely none that can be purchased that can be penetrated by a hard nipple. Straight women in the Phils, the non P4P women, the regular people? They would be very embarrassed and ashamed if their nipple showed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1354311]I enjoy the bib boob hunt . I am a boob addict.[/QUOTE]Really? I never would've guessed! LOL.

I'll be back in AC and Cebu in Jan, Feb & March. I'll see what I can scout out for ya and try to post some pics too. Pm me if you'll be in town then.

I already checked out of the room and paid my bill so I figured it would be safe but prob would not do that again.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1354309]IMHO never let any girl or girls to stay in the room if you are leaving on an early flight. Check out with them and you are clear. There are instances where girls have charged exorbitant things to the room and guess where this bill shows up? On your credit card.

I guess only exception is if you are staying at a low end hotel on cash only basis.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Pip but I won't be there (Cebu) until July and AC in December. Thanks, tho.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1354461]Really? I never would've guessed! LOL.

I'll be back in AC and Cebu in Jan, Feb & March. I'll see what I can scout out for ya and try to post some pics too. Pm me if you'll be in town then.[/QUOTE]

Actually this isn't quite true. US citizens can't be compelled to provide evidence of paternity here, and the choice of whether or not to acknowlege parternity on the birth certificate here is entirely voluntary. I'm guessing the girls rely on a sense of moral obligation, because legally there's absolutely nothing they can do. The same holds true for guys from EU countries who impregnate Filipinas. Filipinas can petition the appropriate embassy, but there's nothing that the embassies will do to help them. I suppose they could sue in US or European courts, but this takes money and a knowledge of the systems that these girls don't have.

GE.

[QUOTE=Fengshui; 1354336]GregLondon is spot on correct.

Phil babes are no dummies. Treaty with US and international child custody / support laws will be enforceable in the US. Will not take much to track anyone down is she knows for sure you got her pregnant. Little bribe to hotel to get your detail, file a complaint, track to where you live, file with the county court through Philippines under the treaty, find out how much you make, then get paid for 18 years.

White or not. You live in the west and your money can be had in due time.

Another reason to watch out gents.[/QUOTE]

There is a proposed international treaty out there yet but it was sent back for another look and I believe it will be a couple of more years until its signed off on by the members.

I am upon Angeles City once again. As a true veteran of the game, I find it very hard paying the bar triple for a lady drink. Hell, if you give her some money, just give her the money. The same goes for barfining. I have barfined plenty in my day; however, so many ladies are giving it way for free. Or, they're giving it away at reduced prices. I find it hard pressed to barfine unless it's under 1, 250 pesos. Who wants to pay up to 3000 pesos when their sexabilities sucks.

I have found a gem in High Society. This place is awesome. I love the female traffic that comes through there. I feel like we are in better control of our all mighty pesos. I met 2 "freelancer" and 1 non-pro. Basically, you have to push them off of you in this place. I took a female home. She was a 6 out of 10. In the morning, I dropped her off 500 pesos and sent her on her way. I pay according to there sexability scale. She was difinitly on the lower scale when it came to her moves.

Over the years, I have seen the prices rise in Angeles. As a true monger, I feel that we have to keep the prices down. Why are we giving so much money to the bars?

[QUOTE=Undakovabrotha;1354529]Over the years, I have seen the prices rise in Angeles.[/QUOTE]Over the years I've seen price rises everywhere. Worldwide. Except deflationary Japan maybe. And when the sin tax is implemented we'll see another jump in AC prices.

Cheers!

It's not pure inflation when incomes stay level (or fall) but the price of consumer goods rises.

When prices and wages don't adjust to mitigate, you have a real problem on your hands.

And Japan is another story, with two "lost decades." Still, they had minor inflation for the first 5 months of 2012. The yen is crazy too. A bottle of water in Tokyo is now the equivalent of like $1. 20 USD.

Where is all the clean $6 19 year old pussy?

[QUOTE=Undakovabrotha;1354529]As a true monger, I feel that we have to keep the prices down. Why are we giving so much money to the bars?[/QUOTE]Well said, sir. I just spent 59 days in AC and during my visit I barfined precisely three girls. The rest (roughly 35 new girls who went into the 'sex pool' with all my existing fucklets from previous trips) I simply handed my cell phone number to (in the bar) and waited for them to get in touch. Of course using this strategy you have to be organised and line up girls 12 hours or a day in advance but it worked for me. The bottom line is that I don't want to pay 2000/3000 pesos on a barfine when less than five years ago the same caliber of girl was 1100 pesos. WTF? Call me a cheap Charlie if you will but my success rate slipping the girls my phone number was pretty good. 8 out 10 girls got in touch within 12 hours. In the end I came to the conclusion that if you took a 1000 sample of girls who work in the AC bars only 300 or so are bar fined nightly. A second tier comprising perhaps another 300 girls are barfined irregularly and a whopping 400 from the same sample are very irregularly or never barfined. Hence their eagerness to accept less money as a 'sneak out'. Added to which it doesn't always follow that the least hot girls are the ones who are never barfined. I met many delicious 3000 peso spotlight dancers who are never barfined because punters only bf the hottest girls at that price level leaving the second tier on the shelf. I realize you will never get any form of solidarity between mongers when it comes to barfining but there is a lot of room for maneuver out there. Possibly more than people think.

Of course if everyone used the same tactics as me barfines would inevitably go down (or, of course, the bars would go under).

D1

IDK. I've tried a lot but I rarely get girls to come outside of work, even if I've taken them several times before, even if they'll get more money that way (like 1000 PHP instead of 50% of a 1800 PHP barfine). They always say they can't because they'll get fired from the bar. That's been my biggest problem in AC. Any advice here?

[QUOTE=Doppel One;1354602]The bottom line is that I don't want to pay 2000/3000 pesos on a barfine when less than five years ago the same caliber of girl was 1100 pesos. WTF?[/QUOTE]Concur. The barfine rates have accelerated the last few years. Several bars jumped from 1500 to 1800 just about 1 year ago. Its one thing for a p100 jump, from say 1300-1400, every few years. Its another thing for bars to jump from p1100 to p1800 between 2006 and 2011. A few culprits:

* The filipine economy is on the grow.

* Punters like to party and throw money around. We can put part of the blame on ourselves. How many idiots on this board alone write in with something like: "Of course I like to tip big. The girls get almost nothing. Compared to what I pay back home this is a steal." And here's a gem of thinking along the same lines, sent in PM last year: "Partying in the bars is THE reason I go there. Who the fuck cares if I pay 2000 or 3000 for a barfine? I'm already forking over 5000 on drinks for me and the girls." Nobody cares, unless you're driving prices up. That's not inflation, its psychology. There are bunches of AC visitors who are not part of this board, never hear the discussion like this, and gladly drop 5-10k nightly on bars and girls alone. If I can get away with 1500 for the same thing (500 the girl, a few drinks for me, jolliebee for the girl) , loosen my cum, and waltz away with pictures for the PG, then all the better for all of us.

* Bar owners are greedy. Look at the mentality of Puerto Galera and CDO, where barfines are never below 3000 or 3500. The more money in my pocket and less in theirs is a win for all of us.

[QUOTE=Doppel One; 1354602]I met many delicious 3000 peso spotlight dancers who are never barfined because punters only bf the hottest girls at that price level leaving the second tier on the shelf.

Of course if everyone used the same tactics as me barfines would inevitably go down (or, of course, the bars would go under).

D1[/QUOTE]I'm with you on the phone number thing. A lot of gents don't seem to understand the mentality of the girls. From your business-minded point of view, its not worth her while to come to your hotel room for p500. Why in the world would a girl who gets 700, 900, or 1500 as her share of the barfine do that? Yet she: WILL! Her business thinking is different from yours. In her mind 500 pesos is 500 pesos. Why live without it? If a girl doesn't get a barfine tonight, she'll waltz herself over to your or my place after her shift ends for 500, spend a few hours, and about half of them will fall asleep and get up late in the morning.

If your purpose in AC is to party, then by all means do so and enjoy. I don't like sitting in bars, so my approach is different. Doppel, our "pass-your-number-around" secret is out. Gents, its quite effective if you don't mind PYT's lining up to come to your hotel at 1am for 500 or 600 pesos.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1354610]IDK. I've tried a lot but I rarely get girls to come outside of work, even if I've taken them several times before, even if they'll get more money that way (like 1000 PHP instead of 50% of a 1800 PHP barfine). They always say they can't because they'll get fired from the bar. That's been my biggest problem in AC. Any advice here?[/QUOTE]Some bars (most all Raymond / Santos) keep a close eye on the girls, as the girls live in the back, and aren't allowed to leave unless its a day off. Also some of the Fields bars' mamasans now live with her girls. The mama goes to work with her girls and then goes home with them, and its easy for her to keep an eye on the candy at all times. So its getting harder. I'll PM you.

there is a far less ominous explanation for pinay wanting to fall pregnant to a western guy.

it is called mother nature.

it is natural for all females, of all species, to try to bear offspring as often, and as soon as possible.

western female humans have been brainwashed, mostly by the feminist movement, to believe that it is unusual to behave this way, and women should wait to have one or two children until after they have had their fun, and career. but this is not natural.

in every species, the female tries to mate with a male with the best genetics that she can find. to a lower class pinay, it is obvious that western men have superior genetics, and the best that she is likely to be able to get. so she goes for it.

that is the way that nature works.

i have known australian men, sailing around papua new guuinea, who have anchored in milne bay. the local girls would jump into the water, swim out to the boat, and sex as many men as they could. no money involved. same when i was working in other areas of png. young school girls would be locked in to the school dormitories at night so that they could not get out to sex the white men. they would shout out to us to come over and sex them through the bars of the locked doors.

that is the way that nature works.

one evening recently, while eating outside in the village of my gf, i remarked on the lack of men. yes they said. 6 women with kids, but no husband. that is natural.

g.

[quote=greglondon; 1349830]i know this will come as no surprise to old hands here but i think it's worth reminding newbies here that many filipinas, especially the ones you will meet on the dating sites are very keen to get pregnant by a foreigner. if you are not "shooting blanks" or wearing condoms you need to be very aware of this.

i was reminded of this firstly because of a british friend who is trapped in a loveless marriage with a not very attractive thai girl who cheated hi into getting her pregnant secondly.

by a guy on the plane over who was coming to meet his 2 year old daughter by a filipina who he is now very bored with, but supporting (having previously got pregnant and married / divorced a thai girl) ,

and thirdly because a couple of the girls i have met in the first couple of days have practically raped me to get an uncovered cock inside them in the hope of getting pregnant.

for many girls getting a foreigner to get her pregnant is their no 1 strategy to either get married or have 18 years of financial support and security. even if you don't actually get her pregnant, if you take chances that mean you can't rule it out, you may well get pressure to pay up if she gets pregnant with her pinoy bf. be careful it happens alot[/quote]

Gentlemen, there is one big factor which is being ignored in this barrage of whingeing about prices in bars.

And that is, local economics.

I know a number of owners, and managers, of bars in the AC area. None of them do it for the money. An average bar, not the big corporate ones, will make about $20, 000 net profit pa if it is well managed, with honest staff. Many bars make less than that, with a lot requiring owners to input cash from their personal savings. An average bar will sell for maybe $50, 000. I know because I have been investigating the option of buying one or two bars in AC just to give me something to do when I live there.

The pricing structure in the bars is such that the bar is able to make a profit, and stay open. Only just. Contrary to opinions expressed here, these are not greedy owners trying to suck their patrons dry. They are very aware of the price conscious punter, who will move from bar to bar to drink at the lowest prices, and to barfine at the lowest prices.

Because your compatriots in the USA, Europe, Canada etc have chosen to not visit AC for their vacation in the past couple of years, the number of customers is low, profits are very thin, and prices are affected.

If you want the bars to remain open, so that you retain a wide range of choices, then pay the money. You go to AC for cheap sex, and you get cheap sex. For a LT price if 3, 000 peso, $75, for a full night of full on sex, where else in the world could you get better?

Stop complaining, and stop trying to undercut the bars. The girls will come out for customers after hours because they are desperate for the money. For you to undercut the bar with the barfine is equivalent to theft. The girls have a contract with the bar, and you are encouraging them to breach their conditions of contract.

G