Pattaya Reports

usually do bring condoms from home (usa) although they are japanese manufactured (american condoms are like wearing garbage bags, way too thick, even the "ultrathins"). not going to be an option this time. so what are the options in pattaya? just what has been said? i'm looking for something decent like okuma or kimono microthin. 2 or. 3, .4 mm at the most.

[quote]i don't do shit but take out my camera and start snapping away. never had a problem. and you know i don't give tips or extra money for any add-ons. call me flat rate frank. ask tomjackin how he does it. i don't think he has ever had a problem either.[/quote]never works for me. they always start freaking out. idk man, pulled hundreds of thai girls from bars, br, gogos, massage shops, etc. and none have ever been cool with nude pics for at least the last 2 years. i don't think it's because i'm a sucker. take nude pics most other places i go. probably have them from 15 countries at least. only occasional issues in the philippines,

correct me if i'm wrong, but you don't even take girls out of go gos right? you say you like "freebies" or whatever? or am i confusing you with someone else.

[quote]true, it becomes increasingly difficult but you can arrange it with the girl beforehands to let you take pictures. sw will usually agree. most girls will not be against it but may ask for money in return.

be careful though, i think there is a lawsuit against a foreigner posting a pic of a girl on the web without her consent, she says he portrayed her in a derogatory manner. if he loses, it's bye bye thailand forever and either money or jail time. be careful out there.[/quote]yea, i know it's illegal. kinda like speeding in your car i guess. i'll take my chances (if i can get any!).

wouldn't put my face in any pics nor leave any trail back to me, so at least the kind of situation you portrayed wouldn't be a worry.

i tried to negotiate prior a few times, like still in the go go but it always made things worse. they were usually repulsed by the idea and it turned them cold quick. some of the other hard bodies i've pulled from ws speak no english, but do a hell of a sign language routine when you whip the old nikkon out back in the room!

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1365101]I tried to negotiate prior a few times, like still in the Go Go but it always made things worse. They were usually repulsed by the idea and it turned them cold quick. Some of the other hard bodies I've pulled from WS speak no English, but do a hell of a sign language routine when you whip the old Nikkon out back in the room![/QUOTE]If you have one of these Pro looking cameras, you can always play the story that you are a Photographer in the US, you shoot many models. When Back in the room you can ask if they want some professional beauty shots. I am sure it could lead to kinky pics. Who knows.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1365101]Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't even take girls out of Go Gos right? You say you like "freebies" or whatever? Or am I confusing you with someone else.[/QUOTE]Correct. My M. O. is non-pros (70%) , Beach Road (400 baht) + room (100 baht) for ST (5%) , discos for LT (1000 baht / 25%). Every damn week I'm meeting a chick who works in a gogo but is hanging in the disco anyway, plus I grew up in the strip clubs of Atlanta so I'm pretty jaded as far as naked girls on a stage goes. (A couple of years ago me and a wingman met two Devil's Den chicks in the disco and they didn't want any money at all!) I don't even step into bars or gogos unless someone is in town and is twisting my arm. I have my own bar with about 30 bottles of liquor in the crib. Then in the discos that I frequent I keep a bottle of Sangsom to sip for 1000 baht. Of course it is only 250 in the store, but I'm not complaining. It's not like I have to pay a cover charge or anything.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1365113]If you have one of these Pro looking cameras, you can always play the story that you are a Photographer in the US, you shoot many models. When Back in the room you can ask if they want some professional beauty shots. I am sure it could lead to kinky pics. Who knows.[/QUOTE]Tried it before actually. Helped that I've actually had photography published and can prove it. But still hasn't worked for me in Thailand. I don't WTF is going on with that. I remember when you could take pics all you wanted, ST or LT with every girl, never a complaint.

[quote]Correct. My M. O. is non-pros (70%) , Beach Road (400 baht) + room (100 baht) for ST (5%) , discos for LT (1000 baht / 25%). Every damn week I'm meeting a chick who works in a gogo but is hanging in the disco anyway, plus I grew up in the strip clubs of Atlanta so I'm pretty jaded as far as naked girls on a stage goes. (A couple of years ago me and a wingman met two Devil's Den chicks in the disco and they didn't want any money at all!) I don't even step into bars or gogos unless someone is in town and is twisting my arm. I have my own bar with about 30 bottles of liquor in the crib. Then in the discos that I frequent I keep a bottle of Sangsom to sip for 1000 baht. Of course it is only 250 in the store, but I'm not complaining. It's not like I have to pay a cover charge or anything.[/quote]I dig it, but when I go to Pattaya it's to shop at the meat market. Go in, grab what I like, get out. I could score girls in clubs back in New York any day of the week. Just not my scene anymore.

Had enough loud music for a life time, don't like dancing, and don't particularly care about drinking at all anymore. I really only want to fuck.

With Beach Road girls I've never been able to do pics either. I usually take one a day before the main course. I try to take my time and pick out the gems in their early 20's though. This may have something to do with it.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1365018]How to get girls to let you take pictures nude and during sex in 2013. Used to be no problem, then hit or miss, now I find very few will be photographed at all. What's the deal?[/QUOTE]Photography got *much* more difficult than it was, you're right. Must be the ubiquity of smartphones, Facebook, and online dating sites for sponsor-seeking.

What works for me (to an extent) is a soft-escalation approach.

My staple are freelancers. I tell them early that I like taking photos and ask her to take a few casual shots while we're walking to my hotel. If I see reluctance at this point (10-20% girls object) , I make my excuses and dump her. If she's not accommodating with minor niceties like that, she won't be any good anyway. In the room, I take a few shots, clothed, then in a towel. There's rarely much objection. I try to keep shooting into the naked stuff, but quite a few ( 60%) do object to it these days, and I stop.

Generally, I try to reassure them I'll respect their boundaries and keep the pictures to myself, but then it's bad to talk too much about to topic (don't want them thinking too much), better to just shoot. For the XXX stuff, promising not to take face shots can work sometime... much to my surprise, as I just took 20 fine portrait shots just a few minutes ago. I guess they just don't want it in the same picture.

A roughly 30% ratio for at least x-rated pics (nudity) is not too bad. Especially since softer stuff can work just fine for me for later masturbation purposes. I can get all the gaping vulvas and buttholes stuffed to the brim with dick on the Internet, thank you.

Also, I never offer tips in advance for any add-on services. While it works sometimes, it encourages the wrong mindset. However, I do tip afterwards when warranted. If the girl puts an honest effort to make me happy (increasingly rare these days, alas) , then I'll happily do the same for her.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1365195]Also, I never offer tips in advance for any add-on services. While it works sometimes, it encourages the wrong mindset. However, I do tip afterwards when warranted. If the girl puts an honest effort to make me happy (increasingly rare these days, alas) , then I'll happily do the same for her.[/QUOTE]If your girl does not want to take pictures:

As was posted earlier a slow approach is best. Get her used to you taking her picture. Keep telling her how pretty she is and how lucky you are to be with her. You want to save the memories. As you take the pictures get her involved by showing them to her.

Lastly, If all else fails and you can't get cooperation this is a last resort. I will give her the option of deleting any photo she doesn't like. And if you're tech savvy there are many free un-delete programs on the net. It's sneaky buy hey.

Swag.

Try the above bar. As you are standing at the entrance to Walking street, its about 3 shopfronts up on the left. Doesn't really kick off till after 10 or 11 pm but it fills with freelancers. Always done well there with girls for 1000 baht usually. Might be a an additional charge for Christmas time. But still a great value night with a happy ending.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1365095]Hey guys,

So my first time Thailand. First whoring trip too LOL. So I started in Bangkok and now I'm in Pattaya. I just wanted to know where I can get the best 'bang for my buck'. The gogo bars seem very expensive. 2000 baht for ST and 600 bar fine. Got it to 2, 150 all in. Another place girl said 1000 baht and 3 or 400 bar fine can't quite remember, but I wasn't so into her. I know there are freelancers to be had much cheaper, or even at massage parlours. Where can I find them? Too many police around beach road because of the Christmas festivities so I didn't see any working. Or maybe I am looking in the wrong place on beach road?

I know Bangkok is supposed to be more expensive. But I actually have found it better so far. If anyone knows where girls can be had for 1000 baht or less please let me know. On a side note I'm really enjoying it out here in Thailand, it's crazy as hell![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;1364790]Are you a Thai working in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Yes, you hit the target at the point of 12. Why else someone blame a farang every time, even the very same farang is right sometimes.

I can easily write many examples, but I just want to save you and me for our very expensive time. Just last example: I have been to Club Insomnia for about 4 hours ago. When I wanted to go to the WC, a security-guy stopped me (at the very entrance of the WC), just because there were 2 farangs who tried to argue about something inside of the WC. As I was outside of the WC-area, I could not hear what they were talking about. And I noticed, that there were at least 10 security-guys inside the area where you can wash your hands. (And I noticed, that in the course of no time, there have been double of amount of security guys around WC-area.) I said "OK, no problem" to the security-guy and waited. After about 5 minutes, the security-guy let me inside to the gentelmen-WC, and one of those farangs who tried to argue about something before, said loudly following sentence: "They want to fight with us!" I said to the guy (who was American) : "Never fight here, as they can beat you very cruely. Take it easy". Then the guy explained to me, that his friend injuried his feet, and as a result his friend was bleeding at his right feet. For stopping the blood coming from his feet, he used the little towel to press his feet. (All right, the little towel was not designed to the feet. But when you are bleeding, you don't think about those pettisseries, do you?) Then the WC-woman said something in Thai, and later "Fuck you!" to those guys. And those guys at the WC in Club Insomnia argued about, that it was not all right, that the WC-woman said "Fuck you" to them.

After listening to that guy, I said, that I understood him completely. But I advised him to ignore when he hear "Fuck you" from Thai people in Pattaya. I advised him to not say "Fuck you", because when he says "Fuck you" to a Thai in Pattaya, (well, actually it is the very same way some Thai people use it to against to farangs) those crazy Thai bastards could easily attack to the farang, just because the farang show his reaction as the same way, as those crazy Thai people in Pattaya do.

Once again: be aware of the very aggressive style of Thai people in Pattaya. Try to ignore them completely and enjoy your holiday. Some of those Thai bastards try to provoke you very much, but never ever react as they would do if they were at your place. Try to be a real Buddhaist, as those crazy Thai bastards are not Buddhaist at all.

Now, I know some dogs will bark to me and try to bide me, just because I advise my fellow mongerers how to avoid those crazy Thai people in Pattaya.

Regards.

Kim of Denmark

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1365373]I can easily write many examples, but I just want to save you and me for our very expensive time. Just last example: I have been to Club Insomnia for about 4 hours ago. When I wanted to go to the WC, a security-guy stopped me, just because there were 2 farangs who tried to argue about something. As I was outside of the WC-area, I could not understand what they were argueing about. And I noticed, that there were at least 10 security-guys inside the area where you can wash your hands. (And I noticed, that in the course of no time, there have been double of amount of security guys around WC-area.) I said "OK, no problem" to the security-guy and waited. After about 5 minutes, the security-guy let me inside to the gentelmen-WC, and one of those farangs who tried to argue about something before, said loudly following sentence: "They want to fight with us!" I said to the guy (who was American) : "Never fight here, as they can beat you very cruely. Take it easy". Then the guy explained to me, that his friend injuried his feet, and as a result his friend was bleeding at his right feet. For stopping the blood coming from his feet, he used the little towel, just to press his feet. Then the WC-woman said something in Thai, and later "Fuck you!" to those guys. And those guys at the WC in Club Insomnia argued about, that it was not all right, that the WC-woman said "Fuck you" to them.

After listening to that guy, I said, that I understood him completely. But I advised him to ignore when he hear "Fuck you" from Thai people in Pattaya. I advised him to not say "Fuck you", because when he says "Fuck you" to a Thai in Pattaya, (well, actually it is the very same way some Thai people use it to against to farangs) those crazy Thai bastards could easily attack to the farang, just because the farang show his reaction as the same way, as those crazy Thai people in Pattaya do.

Once again: be aware of the very aggressive style of Thai people in Pattaya. Try to ignore them completely and enjoy your holiday.

Now, I know some dogs will bark to me and try to bide me, just because I advise my fellow mongerers how to avoid those crazy Thai people in Pattaya.

Regards.

Kim of Denmark[/QUOTE]Whatever. I have been to Pattaya many many times. I have never had a problem with a Thai man or a Thai woman. I have never been harasssed or confronted for any reason. I have never been ripped off.

You have several recent posts of your "issues" with Thai people.

Look in the mirror.

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I know Bangkok is supposed to be more expensive. But I actually have found it better so far. If anyone knows where girls can be had for 1000 baht or less please let me know. On a side note I'm really enjoying it out here in Thailand, it's crazy as hell![/QUOTE]Soi 6 is place you're looking for then. Not the prettiest though. $30 is all you willing to spend? Damn, that's cost of a half tank of gas now days. If it's a holiday then you need to splurge a little. Think about how much it cost for you got get to LOS, hotels, transportation and food. Shouldn't go too cheap since you're on holiday.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1365055]Where are you from? I think you better check out what is available at your home country first.

If not, BOOTS have all the Gel Plays from Durex which do work well for me. KY has also never failed (ok, if pounding for a long time you may need to apply KY more than once)

As far as condoms go, I also would love to know about a place to buy them. I heard Seacon Square in BKK has a sex shop but never got to visit as it's out of the way.

True, it becomes increasingly difficult but you can arrange it with the girl beforehands to let you take pictures. SW will usually agree. Most girls will not be against it but may ask for money in return.

Be careful though, I think there is a lawsuit against a foreigner posting a pic of a girl on the web without her consent, she says he portrayed her in a derogatory manner. If he loses, it's bye bye Thailand forever and either money or Jail time. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.condomdepot.com/[/url]

[quote]If anyone knows where girls can be had for 1000 baht or less please let me know.[/quote]Beach Road 500 ST. 13/1 massage parlors 500 BBJCIM, Soi 6 700-1000 ST, beer bars 1000 LT.

Simon and Cros, great tips! Thanks. Glad to see I'm not the only one having issues with trying to get photos nowadays. So weird that sites like Submit Your Thai seem to be overflowing with very recent bargirl pics though.

I totally forgot about the memory programs that let you recover deleted images! Used them before and they work well. That's fucking genius. I'm probably too ethical (whatever that means) to do that though.