Manila

The night I arrived back in Bangers, I was treated to a slim 20 year old, a wet pussy, truly moaning as it got wetter, and full on french kisses. No singing, no fat ass, no big thighs, no drooping mouth. It was heavenly compared to the rubbish of Manila. It was. Well. Excellent. I guess if you are stuck in Manila you take what you can get. And the long-term expats know where to find the slim and sexy girls. For the rest (like me) when I visit I am just frustrated by the lack of quality. Even in Angeles. I guess that's what happens when the USA colonizes a place with shitty food and Mexican great grandparents DNA.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1469750]A Manila girl spends the night with me and I give her p1000 in the morning (or, nothing). Compared with giving a MBC girl 2-3K for an evening, that's relatively inexpensive.[/QUOTE]Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1470040]1. Vast majority of Phi girls are poor. They are looking for a escape from their poverty. They sell their bodies for that.

2. Even non prostitutes are very willing to offer sex hoping that some knight in shining armor will rescue them.

3. It is well known in Phi foreigners pay for sex. So they flood the dating sites looking for relationship first and money a close second. Opening their legs are in the hope of first choice, if not the second one.

4. Unless the girl has been around the block she is hesitant to openly ask for money or gifts.

5. Parents, siblings look for the girl to support them irrespective of how they earn it. Unless the parents are strictly religious or fairly well off they do not mind their girl selling sex.

6. Even the girl is tuned to supporting her family once they get to legal age or before. Not all girls want to go to AC and work in bars. They will look for a decent job and struggle because small jobs hardly pay any good money...[/QUOTE]You right!

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1470156]Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think WC was simply trying to suggest three contrasting scripts in terms of the financing that girls expect. The typical AC girl works in a barfine structure (or whatever they now call it.) The bar sets the amount, gives part of it to the girl, and the girls may like a tip in addition.

MBC girls are freelancers. Somebody recently referred to a barfine there; but if one exists it's a new development. The FLs at MBC expect an approximate market clearing price, which WC describes. The same women might go for less if picked up out of a mall, but the prices at MBC are elevated a little because the women talk to each other and put pressure on each other not to give in for lower prices. We do the same thing on this forum, but we're anonymous individuals who may not feel particularly pressured by online scolding from others we don't know. The girls, on the other hand, have to face each other in person, and some of these girls are tough as nails on each other. Think of it as a form of organized labor in a country where labor unions are virtually nonexistent.

By Manila girls I think he means the various other freelancers. Some are secured through online dating sites, others are procured by pimpettes for a few of our seasoned mongers who have managed to create procuring incentives for women they've been with previously. In general these girls do not have the community of other freelancers pressuring them to hold the prices up in an organized way. WC's point is that this category of girls generally goes a little cheaper.

There's of course another category of women who work in bars, clubs, and massage parlors with much higher house prices and girls' expectations for tips that roughly equal the house's price.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1470369]MBC girls are freelancers. Somebody recently referred to a barfine there; but if one exists it's a new development. The FLs at MBC expect an approximate market clearing price, which WC describes. The same women might go for less if picked up out of a mall, but the prices at MBC are elevated a little because the women talk to each other and put pressure on each other not to give in for lower prices. [B]We do the same thing on this forum, but we're anonymous individuals who may not feel particularly pressured by online scolding from others we don't know. The girls, on the other hand, have to face each other in person, and some of these girls are tough as nails on each other. Think of it as a form of organized labor in a country where labor unions are virtually nonexistent.[/B][/QUOTE]That paragraph is beautifully phrased SK.

I especially highlighted one of the best couple of sentences I have read on ISG for a long time.

A paragraph of distinction.

I also recall somebody mentioning barfining at MBC in the recent past but if my memory is correct, it was in the context of an inquiry. There's no such thing as a barfine at MBC. Its all between consenting parties.

[QUOTE=I'm Punter; 1470156]Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]IMP: I used the term 'manila girl' to refer to any gal in Manila. Girls in Manila generally go for more than girls elsewhere (the cost of living is considerably higher there than Cebu or the provinces). Overnight for 1000 (or nothing) is not unheard of, but its on the low end of the scale. I used that number for that reason. Overnight for FL is usually 2-5k. I was referring to the low price to ask the question: Is 1000 being cheapskate? The answer might be 'yes' from us, but 'no' from a girl. My question was, who defines 'cheap'?

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;1470095]The night I arrived back in Bangers, I was treated to a slim 20 year old, a wet pussy, truly moaning as it got wetter, and full on french kisses. No singing, no fat ass, no big thighs, no drooping mouth. It was heavenly compared to the rubbish of Manila. It was. Well. Excellent. I guess if you are stuck in Manila you take what you can get. And the long-term expats know where to find the slim and sexy girls. For the rest (like me) when I visit I am just frustrated by the lack of quality. Even in Angeles. I guess that's what happens when the USA colonizes a place with shitty food and Mexican great grandparents DNA.[/QUOTE]I think you said it yourself earlier when you said in the previous FR "maybe I just don't know where to look" Very true or you are wearing very dark sunglasses and can't see much.

Either way as others have pointed out earlier you are wrong in the generalization and should look closer. Or maybe you are just a chubby chaser and does not like the chubbies you chase in Manila?

Some pretty good posts about pay or not pay. I meet a lot of girls on DIA and Pinalove. Some are very clear that are looking for a very serious relationship and act like it. I stop pursuing those girls because I am not looking to be in love, or do I pretend I am. In my profile I say it. I say I am not looking for long-term relationship. Every girl can clearly read it and make a decision if they want to meet me. The girls who do talk to me have a idea what I am about and many times ask my why I don't want a long term relation ship. I tell them I travel to much and am only in one spot a short time. They generally do not mind and still want to meet me. I do not typically feel bad when I have sex with them. I treat them very nice, go to dinner or dancing and then if they will we have sex. Which 98% end up in my bed. When the next day comes I always give money no matter what. No matter if they ask or not I give at least 1000P. I say I wanted to take you to dinner tonight but I can't so please enjoy dinner with your friend on me. They usually take it with not issue and a smile.

I think the main thing is to treat them very well. Don't treat them like they are hookers. I have a lot of repeat girls now who I don't have to pay but do so anyways because I want to help them a bit. Some are really hot but they keep coming back, even with a ton of men pursuing them. I like to think it is not because of the money-because it is not much. They can easily earn more. I think it is because they can get away from their issues and for a day be treated special. I don't feel bad because of that, I feel happy to be with them for that time and believe they are happy during that time also.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1470040]Yes, many foreigners will splurge at home, however once they reach Phi become cheapies.[/QUOTE]I don't dispute your experience, but I believe it is quite limited, though one shared by most here, including me at one point. When I was in the Philippines before it was what I experienced, mainly because I allowed myself to be in the ghetto populated by the poorly educated and easily available p4p. I can do so for a week or two, but hanging out with those girls gets mind numbing for a year. Her having a good noggin on her shoulders is important to me. I recall you insisted that Filipinas can't write either. Sure many can't, but not all. Or maybe they're dumbing it down for her reader's benefit? Moreover, none of the girls I've met watch cartoons. Or colour books with crayons. When you aim low, you're most likely to strike low.

I'm selective with the girls I meet online. Firstly, I never initiate contact via messages or interests. My profile receives a lot of views and nothing more, which tells me they're not interested. After she initiates contact obviously I read her profile, which we all know could be lifted from elsewhere. I continue with the online messages for a few days rather than jump to IM or Skype because these messages can't be lifted from elsewhere. If I feel confident that her language and career knowledge is commensurate to her level of claimed uni or higher education and professional employment then it's IM or Skype. I don't meet those who are only high school educated or unemployed, i.e. the desperate.

Here's a recent conversation with T, a 31-year-old single accountant with no kids.

[quote]T: I was randomly checking out this website and was deciding whether I should join and post my profile. I started reading your profile and had the exciting feeling inside of me and I thought, that girl in your thoughts is so lucky, I'm jealous!

Me: Thanks for reading my profile and sending me your message. I'm flattered I've made you tingly and excited.

Don't be jealous; the girl I was imagining could be you.

Since you understand what I'm looking for, and you messaged me, I know you're looking to share intimate encounters together. I'd like to invite you to my condo so we can share ourselves with each other. If you're interested in adult fun let's continue the conversation.

*we exchange several more messages for a few days, and then she goes dark for a week. This doesn't bother me as I don't want to appear over eager by frequently messaging "Are we going to meet? Huh? Huh?" The other day I noticed she revisited my profile but didn't send me a message*

Me: Stopped by and didn't say hi? Should I be offended or heartbroken?

T: LOL, I was reading again your profile.

Me: A fan, yeah? Heck, I write a lot of vignettes. Here is one you ought to enjoy. [snip]

T: Will read this one tonight.

Me: Light some candles and pour yourself a glass of claret first to set the mood.

*the following day*

T: I crave for you! I need you deep inside me![/QUOTE]A few more messages are exchanged about when to meet, we skype to check each other out, and she came over.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1470395]I also recall somebody mentioning barfining at MBC in the recent past but if my memory is correct, it was in the context of an inquiry. There's no such thing as a barfine at MBC. Its all between consenting parties.[/QUOTE]MBC is far far from barfine, though of late, some self appointed mamasans (those who have gone by the use-by date) drop words like barfine etc. Don't mean that is barfine per-se. It is just a different name used to 'strike the deal'.

MBC has and had never allowed barfine. That's been their business plan from LA Cafe days.

I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1470991]I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.[/QUOTE]It's true. It's worth it.

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1470991]I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.[/QUOTE]FC often sorts the profiles by the most recently logged in. If you don't log in for a couple of days, you'll only receive a few Interest notes or emails. I just renewed last week and have been overwhelmed by all of the responses I have gotten from my basic cut and paste introductions. Be sure to take advantage of the Advanced Search option.

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1470991]I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.[/QUOTE]FC is easily the best online platform for meeting Filipinas. They have the most girls and the best looking girls.

Yes its true they are contacting you.

Pay that fee.