Kyiv

Hi. I know I read about one somewhere on this thread but I have spent about 6 hours searching for it again with no luck.

I will be in Kiev in 2 weeks. I am looking for a place where I can post a job offering in English for a "legitimate" female interpreter at a reasonable rate (no more than $100 per day).

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Yellowpaul I was referring to women friends. I observed many females friends together drinking coffee, walking arm and arm, or just hanging out together. One is a 4 the other is a 10. They seem like best buddies. In the us in my experience with women who are great looking it seems their women friends are beautiful as well. I have had several significant others who were beautiful and not a one had an ugly close friend. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Not sure if this is true or why?

Funny thing happened tonight. Went to the Kiev opera house for a ballet performance. Went with two other friends. Had side box seats with eight chairs in a private room. Guess who sat next to my friend two Rio girls I had seen last night. Tatmilla and another girl who I didn't get her name. Had a private dance with tatmilla not even 24hrs before. She agreed to take out but I had already made plans with another girl Katerina. By the way sexy, beautiful and cultured. She looked perfect in her black dress. The performance was ok, but the night was weirdly wonderful. Kiev is small.

100$ per Day? I think it isn't possible.

Maybe ONE Girl for this 2 Weeks, thats can be work, but not with "girls hopping".

With a english posting in newspaper, normaly it doesn't work.

If you know the Ukrainien Page in internet, maybe there is something possible.

But only in Russian.

If you make a announce, make it 1week before you go there.

Making plan A B and C.

If you need more help, send PN.

I can help.

Yes, you can. Post in university, they always look for € and are good in translation normally. 10$ per hour should be ok.

[QUOTE=YummyPL; 1354083]Hi. I know I read about one somewhere on this thread but I have spent about 6 hours searching for it again with no luck.

I will be in Kiev in 2 weeks. I am looking for a place where I can post a job offering in English for a "legitimate" female interpreter at a reasonable rate (no more than $100 per day).

Any assistance would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YummyPL; 1354083]Hi. I know I read about one somewhere on this thread but I have spent about 6 hours searching for it again with no luck.

I will be in Kiev in 2 weeks. I am looking for a place where I can post a job offering in English for a "legitimate" female interpreter at a reasonable rate (no more than $100 per day).

Any assistance would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]$100 a day is entirely possible for a legitimate English interpreter such a student or out work individual looking to make spare cash. Just don't expect any "extra's" and some might offended if you want them around all day to help you negotiate sex so you might want to discuss that in advance. Make sure you negotiate has well as the going rate $15 to $25 per hour especially more for late at night so I'm assuming a 10 hour day.

I had limited success with Craigslist but with Robota I had a lot of response, so see my previous posts on that as it not easy to navigate and you need a corporate e-mail address and website to get on.

only a dolmetscher girl?

for 100$.) , for 600-700$ per month, it is possible.

per day 50-60$, but not with agency.

how long you need it and how good she must speek englisch?

i know one girl with good company english, i think she can help you for e few days.

A lot more responses than I expected. I appreciate the insight.

I am NOT looking for someone to negotiate sex or even to provide extras. I am going to Kiev to explore a business opportunity. I want someone to help me improve my Russian skills (I know enough to muddle by but not do business) , act as a "cultural adviser" for the young adult culture there, and act as an interpreter when I speak to some business contacts when necessary. I also have some text that I want help translating.

Being introduced to other young people and anything beyond work would be a bonus but not expected. I would want to share meals and maybe go to a club together to get "cultural" advice. While this is mostly business, improving my "game" is never a bad thing.

A university student sounds great. Any idea where to post for that?

Thanks again for everything.

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1353725]Here are some reliable factors:

LJ[/QUOTE]Good review. My 5 cents:

- Look at the Reply rate at the bottom of profile screen. In general the girls who offer 4p4 tend to reply more often than normal girls. For example, let's say you see that some other factors mentioned by [b]LilJoey[/b] Distinguish a profile as one which belongs to p4p girl. Therefore, obviously the girl gets a lot of messages with p4p offers. High Reply rate in this case is a signal that she doesn't ignore them (what most probably would do a normal girl).

- Look at the "I like" (Mne nravits'ja) section of the profile. Sometimes it is created specifically to advertise girl's interest in 4p4. For example, I saw this (exactly in that order) in one profile: I like: men, money, new friendships. All the others interests were listed after that, but there was no need to read further to understand the hint.

Hello, I may be in Kiev next February. From what I have read so far, it seems that Rio is the best place for take out. However, becuase I don't know any Russian, I just wonder if there is a tour guide / wingman service, so I can learn what I should do in Rio to get hot girls. I know there are many good posts about this issue in the thread, but a tour guide / wingman is definitely more helpful, especially for a first time newbie like me.

I am from Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1354132]100$ per Day? I think it isn't possible.

Maybe ONE Girl for this 2 Weeks, thats can be work, but not with "girls hopping".

With a english posting in newspaper, normaly it doesn't work.

If you know the Ukrainien Page in internet, maybe there is something possible.

But only in Russian.

If you make a announce, make it 1week before you go there.

Making plan A B and C.

If you need more help, send PN.

I can help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tunang0102;1354989]Hello, I may be in Kiev next February. From what I have read so far, it seems that Rio is the best place for take out. However, becuase I don't know any Russian, I just wonder if there is a tour guide / wingman service, so I can learn what I should do in Rio to get hot girls. I know there are many good posts about this issue in the thread, but a tour guide / wingman is definitely more helpful, especially for a first time newbie like me.[/QUOTE]Wingman to take out prostitute from a strip club. Get a grip buddy. Bottom line, if you have money they fuck you like your a last man on earth.

[QUOTE=Tunang0102;1354989]Hello, I may be in Kiev next February. From what I have read so far, it seems that Rio is the best place for take out. However, becuase I don't know any Russian, I just wonder if there is a tour guide / wingman service, so I can learn what I should do in Rio to get hot girls. I know there are many good posts about this issue in the thread, but a tour guide / wingman is definitely more helpful, especially for a first time newbie like me.[/QUOTE]Tunang, You really do not need such a thing as a tour guide to get a girl out of Rio. If you read the posts I wrote, a good number of which are referenced in the Reports of Distinction thread, you will have plenty of background information and ideas about methodology and how to function best in the strip club, to simply go and have a good time even by yourself.

Of course, if you're traveling solo, having a wingman is nice, so that you can go to any mongering venue together, rather than alone. But your wingman can be a newbie also, because he is there for comradeship, rather than to show you the ropes. You should simply post your offer to hook up as wingmen, or to have a drink together, on the thread for travel announcements, and hopefully another one of the members of this forum will be traveling at the same time to Kiev, and may want a partner in crime.

I have read of tour guide services for the FKK clubs in Germany. And when I had just begun to discover the existence of the FKK clubs and wanted to go right away, and didn't know how to find them and which ones were best and how to best operate inside an FKK, the idea of a guided tour of the FKK clubs, with transportation and hotels and everything else included, actually sounded like an easy solution to be able to enjoy an immediate trip there without worry and with much satisfaction, even despite the large extra cost of such an FKK tour. But I kept reading the FKK threads and I realized soon enough that truly all the necessary information was in the threads, in very detailed form. Even things like instructions on which train to take to a particular location and how many stops, etc, and I ultimately discovered a map referenced, with all the places pinpointed on it, as well as many posts with advice on how to function best inside the clubs. So I ultimately decided to plan and prepare for a solo trip with no tour guides. And I realize how foolish it would have been to spend money on such a tour guide. Every bit of necessary information was available on this forum, or the Internet. I just had to put the time into properly investigating the facts. And it was truly more of an adventure doing that mongering trip solo.

So my advice to you is to prepare for your Kiev trip methodically, by reading this thread going back at least two years, and extracting the usable information you need into a summary document that you can use for reference. And using the Internet tools available to help you learn about your destination, in order to have a nice trip. You don't need to spend money on a mongering tour guide, when the info is all here in the thread. Just have the patience to read and use it.

If, AFTER you have read the info on the thread, you still have questions, you can raise them here on the thread, and you will get thoughtful answers to any good question.

Before you conclude that Rio is the best option for you for take out, make sure you familiarize yourself with the cost hierarchy of the various mongering options that exist in Kiev, and their various pros and cons. I have written a lot on the various options and how they compare to one another in various aspects I thought might be significant to a monger. Those prior posts will be helpful to you.

You might be a newbie, but you can be an educated newbie.

Guys. On a hotness scale of 1-10 (10 is the best) , how hot are the girls working in Rio?

- Chill

[QUOTE=Tunang0102;1354989]Hello, I may be in Kiev next February. From what I have read so far, it seems that Rio is the best place for take out. However, becuase I don't know any Russian, I just wonder if there is a tour guide / wingman service, so I can learn what I should do in Rio to get hot girls. I know there are many good posts about this issue in the thread, but a tour guide / wingman is definitely more helpful, especially for a first time newbie like me.[/QUOTE]I should also be there in February. It should be my 2nd trip. I won't be a guide but I am happy to have a beer with you and tell you about what I have discovered. If we get along, I can do the wingman concept.

[QUOTE=Chill Bill; 1355245]Guys. On a hotness scale of 1-10 (10 is the best) , how hot are the girls working in Rio?

- Chill[/QUOTE]Ugghh! I hope your post doesn't start that silly debate again! It's a strip club. Like any strip club they are hiring hot young girls to dance. That's what their business depends on. Some girls will be hotter than other girls, and some less so. Think of where the club is located. It is in Kiev, Ukraine. That means that the population pool out of which the club draws its employees, is the same population pool that produces all those hotties you see walking around everywhere in Kiev. So using that brain material that is located within your cranium for the purpose for which it was intended, don't you think it is obvious that there will be some hot girls in a Kiev strip club? The answer is that of course there will be a cross section of the population pool of young good looking women dancing in this club, or any other. Some girls will be medium level girls on the 5 to 7 range, and a portion of the girls will be a little better looking and on the 7 to 8 range, while a proportion of other girls will be even better looking than that, and you will feel they are in the 8 to 9 range. You may even see a few girls that you feel are 10s. And the guy sitting next to you will disagree with you about how to rate each girl. Suffice it to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and a particular girl you feel is an 8, might look like a 10 to another monger, and vice versa. The matter is entirely subjective. I have found that it is next to impossible to have unanimous agreement on the exact grading, on a scale of 1 to 10, of a particular girl, and there will usually be disagreement within a point or two. What you can be relatively certain of is that inside the Rio strip club you will see some girls who are average looking and some girls who are very good looking to you. And you should be able to deduce from the club's successful existence and operation over many years, that it provides sufficient numbers of girls in the very hot category, to keep its customers happy. So don't over think this matter. Just go and enjoy. If you are going there for the purpose of "take out", then just go knowing that it is among the expensive mongering options in Kiev, but no more so relatively than what would happen if you went to a nightclub like D'Lux or Buddha Bar and tried to take out a hottie from those nightclubs for p4p. So as long as you are prepared to spend $300 to $400 on having sex with a very hot girl for a couple of hours, and you are aware that you might be able to find a slightly cheaper girl at one of the other nightclubs like Avalon, Shooters or Caribbean, and that you can find even cheaper still girls off the Internet from sites like mamba. Ru etc, then go have an amazing good time at the strip club, and join their long list of very satisfied customers.