take a longer term view in VN
Have been to VN approx 2 times per year for several years. Early years did the Paradise bar and Sun Moon bar thing (both no longer there), ending up at mini hotels for the night. Never a problem but always felt risky.
However, during those early years quite innocently?? developed ongoing dialogue with several non p4p girls (tailor shop, hotel reception, restaurant, and non p4p bars in HCMC, NhaTrang and DaLat).
now have several of the above meeting and traveling with me on my trips there. They can't go to a hotel in their home town, but everything is easy when they are bona fide travellers themselves. There was only one time some years ago when i had to sign some sort of form that we were "married" - this to get into the AnaMandara in NhaTrang!
If you have time then loads of fun :-)
Ozirob
The Fucking Vietnamese Karaoke bar Assholes
Was in HCM on a tour. The city was extremely crowded, dirty, smelly and dusty. There was no P4P scene that I know of. Was taken by a tour guide to a karaoke bar in Dist 1 near the river with the promise that sweet young high class girls would go to the hotel for $50. I had excellent experiences with Chinese KTV so I went.
They brought up 2 line up of 8 girls, most 3,4 on the attractiveness scale. Picked one half way decent girl. They brought up 2 cases of beer immediately, then all sort of snacks started to appear on the table. The girls quickly started popping the beers and sample all the snacks. The young girl was grabbing my crotch and encouraged me to feel her up. She asked if I wanted to ask her anything, which I said to go to hotel. She told me she would go for any gift I can give her.... Now I started smelling the bull shit.
More cases of beers and more snacks started to show up without my order. I got pissed off. I called the manager/pimp and told him I would not pay for anything that I did not order. The asshole called up 2 thugs and brought out the bill totaling over US$150. I would not pay. I told him I just wanted the girl to go. He said it's up to the girl. The girl now turned extremely bitchy, started shouting and swearing at me and refusing to go unless I pay up and pay her first. Fuck it. I would never pay her up front for a dumb ugly fucking whoore with bad attitudes. I threatened to call the police. Long arguments ensued which the tour guide was not helping. The fucking pimp finally settled for half the bill for the worthless snacks that his *****s spoiled.
I just gave the asshole the money and got out of the shithole. The Vietnamese has to be the least honest people in all Asia if not the whole world. Fuck the Vietnamese KTV assholes and their ugly *****s who cheat their customers.
I would never come back to Vietnam to deal with these assholes. The Chinese KTV's civilized manners and fairness make the Vietnamese look like stupid fucking savages. These Vietnamese are the stupidest and rudest assholes that all should avoid.