Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[QUOTE=Txmanny]I know this has been brought up before but with minimal response. Anyhow, anyone with any knowledge regarding these restaurants that are popping up all over HCMC catering mainly to Japanese clientele? They seem very seclusive and dark. Just wondering.[/QUOTE]

There was some inconclusive discussion of this a few months back. There are a lot of Japanese bars around Le Duan are where the very attractive girls seem to spill out at midnight. Some of these seem quite large and some quite small.
I went into one of the small ones about 6pm about a month ago and there were four women of varying degrees of unattractiveness and I was offered a BJ on the billiard table upstairs. I passed.
We need intelligence on these places but I suspect that take-out prices are quite high and we are seeing the flow over of this at the HBT bars and elsewhere.

[QUOTE=peterhk]Thanks for the answers!

Well I will be staying at the Windsor Plaza (5 Star), will that be a problem? Also is there any place where the brothel supplies a room?[/QUOTE]

First off do not expect to bring your date in and past the front desk as you go up to your room. My understanding is that the Windsor is Gov't owned and there is no hanky-panky.

The bar girls will be able to take you to various short time hotels that cost about $20 or so but I do not like these on grounds of cost security and comfort.

My suggestion is that if you decide tonight is the night you walk across the road a bit and check into one of the hotels in Mac Thi Boui (say $25 with breakfast) and go hunting from there.

[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Two of the five star hotels that have nightclubs in SGN are the New World (Catwalk Club) and Renaissance (not sure of the name of the club).

Both of the clubs (for want of a word) have some pretty attractive ladies that go for US$100 or therabouts.

Recently I was at lunch at the (very good) Chinese Restaurant on the first floor of the Renaissance and I stumbled across what appeared to be a back entrance to the club right next to the guest elevators. It appeared to me that it would be possible to take a lady from the club and go directly to the guest rooms without going anywhere near the ground floor reception. Of course you would not have the security of reception holding the ID.

The club was not open when I last stayed at Renaissance so I never tried.

Catwalk at New World has an upstairs section and possibly has a similar arrangement.

At Caravelle this can not happen because the top floor uses a separate elevator but at Sheraton it could also work.

Might be worth investigation for those of you who are so inclined.[/QUOTE]THe address of Club Royal is:
1, Ngo Duc Ke D1

The address for Catwalk is;
76 Le Lai Street D1

Also, the hottest club in town right is called Club Volcano located at
148 Cong Quynh D1

and of course,the "internationally recognised" Gossip
79, Tran Hung Dao D1

[QUOTE=peterhk]This will be my first time to Vietnam on business, what I learned so far is that factory workers there get about 2/3 of what they get in China where I am based.

Now in China, we pay about 20-30 USD for a good fuck only (no massage included), so since Vietnam is cheaper shouldnt the gentlemen's entertainment be cheaper as well? I am reading prices of 1m V$, that's so much, isnt' there any other place where it's safe and you'll get your basic deal for less?

Let me know where, and feel free to message me to go mongering together when I'm there.[/QUOTE]


to peter hk

I am not sure which part of China you are at but it is all supply and demand most place in china is cheaper like shenzhen or dongguan mongering and hotel is cheaper than HMC , if you go to shanghai or bejing cost will be higher than most area of vietnam .

fast eddie 48

Well it is 5 years since I've been to HCM but I intend to return in April.

From what has been said on these pages there seems to be an explosion in prices since I was there last.

What are prices like around Pham Ngo Lao St and the backpacker area.

I have a girlfriend in LeeLoi St but I like some outside action as well.

Can anyone help me with information?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to peter hk

I am not sure which part of China you are at but it is all supply and demand most place in china is cheaper like shenzhen or dongguan mongering and hotel is cheaper than HMC , if you go to shanghai or bejing cost will be higher than most area of vietnam .

fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]In addition to Fast Eddie,

In Guangzhou China, short time can be 200 yuan (25usd) and overnight 350-400yuan (50usd). But if you want highclass you have to pay 350-500yuan ST.

In HCM, short time can be 300k vnd (20usd) and overnight 500k-600k (40usd). Highclass can be had at 500-800k vnd (50usd) ST.

Price are comparable. And in both places you can find cheaper or more expensive. The problem with Vietnam is that you must negociate! They think they worth more because they are ignorant of outside world. Merchandise food services girls, you have to negociate. Girls in clubs often starts 100usd which is crazy, and they usually refuse if you basic bargain, so you must use art of negociation. It's a pain compare to china.

In hcm, if you want cheap you have to go outside district 1,3,5. You have to go with a local friend or xe om/taxi. They will bring you to area where macro calls the girls out for u to choose. It's a bit scarier and not really recommended for short business/vacation trip. 150-200k short time, 300-400k night.

Have been to VN approx 2 times per year for several years. Early years did the Paradise bar and Sun Moon bar thing (both no longer there), ending up at mini hotels for the night. Never a problem but always felt risky.

However, during those early years quite innocently?? developed ongoing dialogue with several non p4p girls (tailor shop, hotel reception, restaurant, and non p4p bars in HCMC, NhaTrang and DaLat).

now have several of the above meeting and traveling with me on my trips there. They can't go to a hotel in their home town, but everything is easy when they are bona fide travellers themselves. There was only one time some years ago when i had to sign some sort of form that we were "married" - this to get into the AnaMandara in NhaTrang!

If you have time then loads of fun :-)

Ozirob

FYI:

This is an update for you guys if you are planning your trip around Febuary 2007.

TET holidays are scheduled for 17 Febuary 2007 / Saturday - 20 Febuary 2007 / Tuesday.

16 Febuary 2007 / Friday is a Half day.

Most will be travelling back to their home towns and alot of businesses will be shut. To what extend, I have no idea. Have yet to spend a TET holiday in Vietnam.

Will be in HCMC 12-28-06. Will be there approx 3 wks. If someone is interested in having a drink let me know.

Arrived in town and noticed last night there is a new bar near the Thang Long Hotel on Mac Thi Boui. Was with folks last night and could not check it out.

Anyone with info? Quality, rates etc?

Hi Sudsoz,

I think its the old Billard Cafe that was 2 doors away from Shadow Bar at MTB. The place that use to house the "cafe" has been bought over and is under renovation so I thnk they moved a few more doors futher up. THe guys stationed outside look the same to me.

Have not been to any of the shops yet becuase its not my scene but I hope the info helps

Cheers

[QUOTE=Newbie]Hi Sudsoz,

I think its the old Billard Cafe that was 2 doors away from Shadow Bar at MTB. The place that use to house the "cafe" has been bought over and is under renovation so I thnk they moved a few more doors futher up. THe guys stationed outside look the same to me.

Have not been to any of the shops yet becuase its not my scene but I hope the info helps

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Yes its the old Billiard Bar girls with a few extras. A few months back they moved to a location near the river past the Riverside and now they seem to have come back to town.

When I enquired they were making noises about a $20 bar fine. There was nothing special on offer at that time so I passed. I figure that making a protest about the price always improves your bargaining base next time.

Will try to get in there a bit earlier in the evening to see what they have on the shelves.

The same night (Saturday) the corner bar (HBT & MTB) had nothing spectacular and U2 had uglies.

[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Will try to get in there a bit earlier in the evening to see what they have on the shelves.

The same night (Saturday) the corner bar (HBT & MTB) had nothing spectacular and U2 had uglies.[/QUOTE]The only I reason i go to MTB is for the awesome wanton noodles there..though lately..the standard seems to have dropped.

Anyways, was having dinner ther a few nights back adn most of the girls some in about 6.30-7pm and I do agree with you, nothing spectacular, very very very ordinary in fact. even saw one of the girls being dropped of outside U2 by her boyfriend who was one of the "tourist police"

However, will be heading to Tu Xuan one day. Heard from a friend that there are some lookers over there.

You have any info?

Cheers

Came back from a a quick trip to HCMC. Stayed at the Bong Sen on HBT. Was on business so much of mongering had to be done in a hurry so didn't negotiate best prices but this is what I got up to.

Day 1: Arrived about midday. Checked into hotel and then went out to Cafe Latin for lunch. Wandering back to hotel was beckoned into Bar 51 on HBT. Went in for a beer. An old ugly sat next to me and I told I wasn't interested. However girl serving behind the bar was young and cute. Asked her if she would sit with me. After a bit of negotiation was sat in the upstairs pool room getting BBBJ/CIM for US$25.

Business meetings that night but once I was on my own called in to Bar 49 (I think - couple of doors down from the afternoon blowjob bar). Was just going to have a drink and a fool around but I grabbed a good looker (8 on my scale) as I walked through the door - I never accept the next in line unless she is a looker, always choose my own. Decided I liked her so much that I would go with her to minihotel. US$40 I think but am a bit hazy (lots to drink at this point). Fancied something different so asked if she had a friend. She said she would call someone when we left the bar. Met the other girl at the hotel (also pretty good ,a 7 with big tits) where they played together a bit in the shower and then we all went to bed. BBBJ and FJ with both and then CIM with the one from the bar. Great time. Back to Bong Sen and bed.

Day 2: Meetings all day though had a quick break for a head and shoulder massage in lace opposite Cafe Latin at lunchtime. Very relaxing. That evening had dinner and went to Catwalk with colleague. Just looked - absolute stuners but I expected very expensive as were a lot of Japanese business men. May try again next time I am in HCMC.

Decided move down the scale and went to U2. Standard of the girls is fairl poor but using my usual technique grabbed a reasonably young and attarctive one as I came through the door. Main entertainment in this bar was watching some guy in the back room having a blowjob performed by what seemd about 3 girls. When I went to the toilets could see he was bollock naked - don't know what he would have done if there was a raid. Was offered a BJ out back by my girl or to go to a room upstairs. I declined because night was quite young and I wanted to do some more exploring.

Went out of U2 and turned right. A few doors down went into another bar can't remeber the name)and managed too grab a stunner at the door. Was chatting to her (kind of, her English was poor). Hands wandered under skirt where, bingo, no underwear. Let my fingers roam and bought her a few drinks. Room available at the back but decided to go back to hotel - needed to get some more money. So promised her I would be back, but never made it.

Went back to my room. To get back to the girl had to pass Bar 51 and found myself dragged in!!!. To cut a long stroy short ended up taking two girls ($40 each) to a mini hotel for BBBJ/FR/AR/CIM. Excellent night.

Day 3: No action - flew home at lunchtime.

From talking to girls I think it would be OK to take them back to Bong Sen before 9pm. Will try next time.

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Was in HCM on a tour. The city was extremely crowded, dirty, smelly and dusty. There was no P4P scene that I know of. Was taken by a tour guide to a karaoke bar in Dist 1 near the river with the promise that sweet young high class girls would go to the hotel for $50. I had excellent experiences with Chinese KTV so I went.

They brought up 2 line up of 8 girls, most 3,4 on the attractiveness scale. Picked one half way decent girl. They brought up 2 cases of beer immediately, then all sort of snacks started to appear on the table. The girls quickly started popping the beers and sample all the snacks. The young girl was grabbing my crotch and encouraged me to feel her up. She asked if I wanted to ask her anything, which I said to go to hotel. She told me she would go for any gift I can give her.... Now I started smelling the bull shit.

More cases of beers and more snacks started to show up without my order. I got pissed off. I called the manager/pimp and told him I would not pay for anything that I did not order. The asshole called up 2 thugs and brought out the bill totaling over US$150. I would not pay. I told him I just wanted the girl to go. He said it's up to the girl. The girl now turned extremely bitchy, started shouting and swearing at me and refusing to go unless I pay up and pay her first. Fuck it. I would never pay her up front for a dumb ugly fucking whoore with bad attitudes. I threatened to call the police. Long arguments ensued which the tour guide was not helping. The fucking pimp finally settled for half the bill for the worthless snacks that his *****s spoiled.

I just gave the asshole the money and got out of the shithole. The Vietnamese has to be the least honest people in all Asia if not the whole world. Fuck the Vietnamese KTV assholes and their ugly *****s who cheat their customers.

I would never come back to Vietnam to deal with these assholes. The Chinese KTV's civilized manners and fairness make the Vietnamese look like stupid fucking savages. These Vietnamese are the stupidest and rudest assholes that all should avoid.