I couldn't have said it better myself!
[QUOTE=Tonkazan;1155449]This forum will never cease to amaze me. Could it be actually true that a member of this forum paid a malaya 7000 shillings, then found it okay to announce it here? I can't stop laughing! Okay, maybe I have the advantage of being a black African, and a native Kenyan. That means that if I want, I can go to sabasaba and pay 200 ksh. But, since I don't want to lie on a bed with lice, I prefer to go to Casablanca and pay a little more. But I still don't want to believe that anyone would willingly pay 7k for one night. Why, do you own a diamond mine in Botswana? Even if you do, its simply silly! That is the reason the rest of us find the prices going up, because some monger has decided to play father Christmas. Why do we join this forum? Is it not to learn from each other? Then why would one who is a member here, who has read all the previous posts on the subject of prices, still go out and do something like that? If you want to spoil the market rates, at least have the decency not to announce it here![/QUOTE]Yes, spot on maybe Jackson could save us from having to repeat ourselves by banning anyone from posting if they admit to paying ridiculous prices to 'play hide the sausage' on the forum. I have seen many a destination for us fellow hunters on safari ruined and Kenya will go the same way eventually.
I agree, it's just a game but a very serious game
[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1154931]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.
Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.
That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.
Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. [/QUOTE]This is a very good explanation of the situation for women in most African countries, even the 'middle' classes'. Even today in 2011 most men who graduate with a Bachelor's degree in the social sciences in Africa will end up with a very poor paying desk job in the gov't. It is hard to believe that even today these men will get their only good paying jobs from foreign aid (UN, ADB, World Bank, or they set up their own charity and get foreign aid). You can imagine that if the men are having trouble earning a living, just imagine the women. I 'married' a women from Ghana who was 'middle class' but still was very desperate to marry me to get out of Ghana since she was never going to get a good paying job in Ghana. I could have gone to the airport and not given her a dime but I gave her $4000 USA as part of the divorce. It paid for her entire 4 years tuition, too bad it was at a bad, unaccredited 'university' in Ghana. When I told her I could have just left she said "I would get you!". This shows just how desperate they are for the mzungu money. For those crazy enough, don't marry them unless you are a fascist! Or at least a Christian conservative fundamentalist.
Live in Bangkok and pay Barfine.
[QUOTE=BKKguy; 1156468]Fellow hobbyists. I've been offline for a week or so and am now catching and apparently catching hell for my ksh 7000 payment to a massage girl in westlands for 2hr.
Wow, first of all, a note about me. I make a healthy £six figure salary and frankly, will spend my quid as I please. 2nd, I'm not looking for a 10min fast fuck with malaya Bush girls but a nice GFE from a courtesan who knows how to entertain gentlemen, is DDF and allows MSOGs. I've spent time in Florida and am always disappointed with the quality and endurance of the 'pros'. So, I tried something different in outcalling a massage girl.
That said, if you read the post well, you'll see that I only paid her ksh3k for her two hours. Because I called a massage place in Westlands, they informed me that in order to have her outcall, I had to pay them ksh4k. I actually WENT to the massage place on another occasion so they knew me. Did they hustle me? Perhaps.
I live in Bangkok, where it is standard practice to pay barfines to have girls check out to go with joes.
Did I pay too much, I'm seeing from you experts that I did. But did I have a good time? Sure I did. So, what do you care how much I paid? The point of the board is to discuss performance, and provide tips. I welcome any PMs from you 'pros' to help me in my future endeavors.
Meanwhile, back to the pussy.
Guy[/QUOTE]If you live in Bangkok there is no need to pay barfine for the bar girls, you're doing something wrong. Why do not collect telephone numbers and call them by phone after work. For someone who supposedly lives there, it is not necessary to pay in a bar barfine. There are other opportunities to meet many nice girls. So tell us no nonsense. I've worked a long time even in Bangkok, after a short time it was no longer necessary to go to the tourist areas and pay barfine.
But you know that by yourself, if you live there. So tell us no bullshit.
Wenzman
The 'Dick'tators in Africa
Thanks to the Dicktators in Africa we have this problem of women not having the opportunity to benefit from a growing economy. Instead, these dictators in Africa crowd out and control most of the economy for their own benefit and a small elite class (military included) of mostly men. Those left out depend on foreign aid for a decent wage. Just look at Ghana and the difference after the dictator Rawlings stepped down (bless his soul, most dicks don; t do that, hence the problem) Although it is slow, the economy in Ghana is no longer in the control of a dicktator so more people are climbing out of poverty and getting a share of the wealth created. Not the case in most African countries where dicktators continue to rule. Don't send aid to African countries that are still run by dicktators, send it only to those countries that have had free, fair, competitive, and regular elections. Otherwise, you are keeping the dicks in power.
[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1154931]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.
Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.
That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.
Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. [/QUOTE]
