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[QUOTE=Rometta; 1101753]I will be there from 19 to 8.
Try this.
[url]http://www.fortaleza-vacanze.com/appartamenti-fortaleza.aspx?lang=_a[/url]
Good mongering! [/QUOTE]Eventually write to Nara. She have a lot apartments and are used to help gringos with these things.
Nara Beatriz Fassi.
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[email]nfassi18@hotmail.com[/email]
[QUOTE=Balluba; 1101812]Eventually write to Nara. She have a lot apartments and are used to help gringos with these things.
Nara Beatriz Fassi.
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[email]nfassi18@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]Good info.
Nice looking lady.
I miss your pics of Toblerone-girls.
She's a cutie.
Does she know about this forum if I said someone recommended?
[QUOTE=Balluba; 1101812]Eventually write to Nara. She have a lot apartments and are used to help gringos with these things.
Nara Beatriz Fassi.
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[email]nfassi18@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]
I might get slaughtered for this, but is she a gdp? I'm assuming not, but hey you don't ask, you don't find out anything. .
[QUOTE=Balluba; 1101812]Eventually write to Nara. She have a lot apartments and are used to help gringos with these things.
Nara Beatriz Fassi.
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[email]nfassi18@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]
This is a response I sent another member after he PM'd me about the scene. I thought it worth sharing a (somewhat) succinct summary of the most active portions of the Fortaleza Bar Scene.
Most nights, there are 3 sure-fire bars for plenty of GDP action in a scene that has the feel of the old Help, but not quite the talent level (though I found plenty to my liking every night I was out, both times I've been there) :
1. Zipi Bar. It's the "early" place. Many of the girls go there around 11 or 11:30. There may be a R10 entry fee, which includes two drinks. This lasts no later than 1am, but twice I found a girl here, went home for an early session, then went on to the main scene. Some of the better ones are looking exactly for that situation. Get a program early at Zipi, then one later at one of the other bars.
2. Forro Mambo. This is the one that is most happening now. Two levels, nice big outdoor balcony. Dance music upstairs, Forro downstairs usually. Later (around 3:00am) another room called "Disco" opens up upstairs. This is my least favorite room because it's basically the same music as the other room, but with a constant pulsating strobe light in an otherwise dark-ish room. Hard to size things up. Every night there are upwards of 300-500 girls at Mambo, I'd say. It doesn't really get rolling until after 1am, with a peak around 2am. Wide variety, but definitely plenty of talent. You enter, they give you a card to track your drinks (R15 entry). Watch out for Red Bulls and liquor drinks. I stick with beer or water. It can add up.
3. Cafe de Mar. Across the street from Mambo. A little smaller, but still 100-200 girls. Same deal with the card as in Mambo. I only went here a couple times because Mambo was so great. (aside: this is, however, where I met. After seeing her at Zipi. My favorite girl I've ever been with. I wrote a report about her earlier this month, and about our fun around Centro in Fortaleza. Unfortunately, we got too close, and now she's completely wrecked that I'm returning to life at home in the US and have left her behind. Every time I call her, it's all tears. Makes me sad.)
Outside of Mambo and Cafe de Mar there are a bunch of smaller restaurants and bars as well. Girls come and go into the clubs and this area, and you can make eye contact from these places to pull a girl over as well. A friend of mine did only this and pulled pretty well. He saved himself a bunch on drinks, I'm sure, but part of the fun of these places is dancing with a girl, hooking up, making out in the club, etc. The girls are friendly / open and willing.
Wednesdays, Club Armazem is a good place to go. Mix of GDPs and non-Pros, but I'd say weighted more heavily towards the GDPs. You'll recognize many faces from Mambo, etc. If you go to Armazem on Weds. It's main attraction is a live Forro show in an open-air seating area. There are also two side bars with house and dance music for breaks in the live show, or just as an alternative.
GDP costs: Generally, the girls start at R200 (sometimes R250) , but will go for R100. R150. I'm not a great negotiator when I have something in my lap that I really want, so I usually was paying R150. This generally is for a couple of hours, but if the girl likes you, or you negotiate well, you can get them all night for R150, if you want.
During the early part of the evening and somewhat during the day, the Barracas in Beira Mar also have girls sitting, walking, trying to make eye contact. Some of the familiar faces from the bars, some not. Mostly, more hit or miss.
You should definitely go. Avoid March-June, I've heard (less girls, low season). It's a blast, overall.
[QUOTE=Jd Garbanzo; 1101861]Most nights, there are 3 sure-fire bars for plenty of GDP action in a scene that has the feel of the old Help, but not quite the talent level (though I found plenty to my liking every night I was out, both times I've been there) :
You should definitely go. Avoid March-June, I've heard (less girls, low season). It's a blast, overall. [/QUOTE]IF you found plenty to your liking there, you're lucky! A lot of the girls are virtual faveladas. If you see something good, be quick to make your pick. Not a lot of quality to go around. Don't wait until winding up in the disco room after 3 a. M. Either : it's so dark to see what you're getting, and it's mostly the dregs. Never got out of Forro Mambo for less than 120 reales bar tab, plus a couple at Cafe Mar and Zip's. A definite fun place for drinking and dancing. Found a girl from Manaus there who was spending a month in Fortaleza, and saw a girl in Forro who was on the same flight from Sao Paolo. Wondering if more girls from Brazil travel to Forta for the high season 1 Jan to end of Carnival / Feb. Although that's probably the time when there are even more Italians swarming over them. A shame about the talent level, but if you're willing to take what you can get, you'll have fun in this scene. A definite possibility to return.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1101882]IF you found plenty to your liking there, you're lucky! ... if you're willing to take what you can get, you'll have fun in this scene. A definite possibility to return.[/QUOTE]While I'll agree the scene is not like Rio in terms of looks, I also don't think it's a take what you can get type of scene. Sure, on any given night, the ratios are going to be something like:
- 10% 8+
- 20% 6-7.
- 50% 5.
- 10% 3-4.
- 10% 1-2.
However, on a night with 500 girls at Mambo, that's still 50 girls at 8+. Maybe you think my numbers are high, but I was talking with 5 or 6 Americans who were there at the same time as I was, and they all agreed there were plenty of good ones to choose from. Even if you go down to 5% at 8+, there's still 25 girls there that you can get with, and, with the way the Europeans also like things a little different too, not a hell of a lot of competition from the hobbyists.
Could just be a difference of opinion about looks / types. I never found a reason to complain.
[QUOTE=Jd Garbanzo; 1102198]However, on a night with 500 girls at Mambo, that's still 50 girls at 8+. Maybe you think my numbers are high, but I was talking with 5 or 6 Americans who were there at the same time as I was, and they all agreed there were plenty of good ones to choose from. Even if you go down to 5% at 8+, there's still 25 girls there that you can get with, and, with the way the Europeans also like things a little different too, not a hell of a lot of competition from the hobbyists.
Could just be a difference of opinion about looks / types. I never found a reason to complain. [/QUOTE]It's a numbers' game, like everywhere, and I'd take my chances there before anywhere in Rio right now.
As for ratings: everybody's are different. We're not judging miss world contestants to a universal standard; we're trying to find a body that matches up with ours for a few hours. Your 9+ is a nine plus for your particular body-type. Saw some girls in Forta who were about 4'7'. Bet they were 10s to the dwarf who was in Mambo a couple of the nights I was there. Curious to know if girls from other parts of Brazil visit Forta during High Season. Would go back if that were the case.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1102205]Curious to know if girls from other parts of Brazil visit Forta during High Season. Would go back if that were the case.[/QUOTE]In Fortaleza I've met quite a few pro's from Natal, Teresina and São Luís.
The most stunning ladies in Fortaleza you'll meet at Mucuripe Club. Very few GP's at Mucuripe Club, but definitely worth a visit when you're tired of seeing girls with squared heads and no necks. The club has 4 pistas.
[url]http://www.mucuripe.com.br/[/url]
[QUOTE=Sperto; 1102254]In Fortaleza I've met quite a few pro's from Natal, Teresina and São Luís.
The most stunning ladies in Fortaleza you'll meet at Mucuripe Club. Very few GP's at Mucuripe Club, but definitely worth a visit when you're tired of seeing girls with squared heads and no necks. The club has 4 pistas.
[url]http://www.mucuripe.com.br/[/url]
[/QUOTE]When were you last there?
Funny thing about the pumpkin block head / no necks: wasn't noticing so many inside the clubs. It was just the general sense that most of the women screamed favela. And, a number had done a tour of duty in the E. U. Yes, did encounter girls from neighboring regions, and Manaus.
Specifically, given the Ceara beaches and overall tourist destination: do girls from elsewhere gravitate to Fortaleza in High Season staking out or stalking gringo quarry? Like it was in Help in years gone by.
[QUOTE=Golfinho; 1102275]When were you last there?
Specifically, given the Ceara beaches and overall tourist destination: do girls from elsewhere gravitate to Fortaleza in High Season staking out or stalking gringo quarry? Like it was in Help in years gone by. [/QUOTE]I was there the last time in late January 2010.
There are some girls coming to Fortaleza to do their tricks in high-season. Propably good business as there are lots of Italian tourists, and quite a few Dutch, Scandinavians and Swiss as well.
[QUOTE=Gringo147; 1101845]She's a cutie.
Does she know about this forum if I said someone recommended? [/QUOTE]I would not think so. I expect no one to talk about this forum for locals. There are examples for members having big trouble after posting e. G. Photos or information here. Myselfes included.
As far as I know she is not gdp. But she have a lot of nice friends, and it is of course possible to ask her for to go out dancing, etc. I know she like this. But remember, she is a hard working business woman, muito seria.
Sperto: I will bring Toblerone to Brasil this week, lets see what happen.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Sperto; 1102307]I was there the last time in late January 2010.
There are some girls coming to Fortaleza to do their tricks in high-season. Propably good business as there are lots of Italian tourists, and quite a few Dutch, Scandinavians and Swiss as well. [/QUOTE]From wherever there are direct flights from Europe is where these guys are from. Found chicks who logged time in belgium, netherlands and lots of italy. We can be thankful there's nothing nothing direct from Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago and MLK blvd. May try Fortaleza again after carnival.
[QUOTE=Sperto; 1102254]In Fortaleza I've met quite a few pro's from Natal, Teresina and São Luís.
The most stunning ladies in Fortaleza you'll meet at Mucuripe Club. Very few GP's at Mucuripe Club, but definitely worth a visit when you're tired of seeing girls with squared heads and no necks. The club has 4 pistas.
[url]http://www.mucuripe.com.br/[/url]
[/QUOTE]Forrò do sitio too is a very good place to monger. Sometimes you can find gdp on day off.
24th December will be avioes do forrò. I suppose it will be packed of girls and of course will be there
[b]zipi bar. [/b]
[quote=jd garbanzo;1101861]it's the "early" place. many of the girls go there around 11 or 11:30. there may be a r$10 entry fee, which includes two drinks. this lasts no later than 1am, but twice i found a girl here, went home for an early session, then went on to the main scene. some of the better ones are looking exactly for that situation. get a program early at zipi, then one later at one of the other bars. [/quote]jd garbanzo comments hold true as of december 2010.
i still find zipi bar to be lots of fun and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere, more so than some of the other clubs, if i'm simply looking to chill and admire the garotas. great staff (who are available for pick-ups) and the new neon improvements, make the club even more exciting. note: i only received 1-drink with my r$10 entrada fee and found some days the entrada is free or if you arrive real late at night (1am). about 30+ girls every day during the peek of the night.
some nights i would just stand outside (with a beer from the street vendors) and watch the action come and go at zipi's. for me this was a lot of fun, since there was also some very very nice sws, just outside the gas station, by the parked cars across the street. primarily a group of about 3 or 4 blonde gdps (which imho were 7. 5s & 8s) , dressed in a daisy duke like fashion. tight cut-off jeans, tits hanging out in a tight fitting shit of some kind. you get the idea. many of their clients seem to be the young brasileiros with cars, whom they seem to know on some sort of social level. anyway, wasn't sure what to make of it, but i found this quite entertaining to watch.
[b]miami bar. [/b] still closed. not sure if it's for good, or just in a holding pattern waiting for new owners.
[b]europa bar. [/b] also still closed. also not sure if it's for good, or just in a holding pattern waiting for new owners.
[b]cafe de mar[/b]. (r$10 min. consumption). cannot report on this club, as i did not go into the club, as it seemed pointless to spend money there, when most all the girls end up at forro mambo anyway after about 1pm.
[b]forro mambo. [/b]
[quote=jd garbanzo;1101861 sept-10-2010] forro mambo and café del mar (across from each other) both have a system where they give you a card when you enter and any drinks that you order get put on this card, which then has to be paid before you exit. sometimes there is a fee for entering and sometimes it was free. just need to look at the card to see if on that particular night there is an entrance fee. i can’t really provide any consistency inter terms of pricing of drinks and i can’t help but think that the bill gets padded. the girls can enter free, but some from café del mar won’t go into (or are banned) from forro mambo. girls again want 150br, but may settle for less later on in the night.[/quote]jd garbanzo comments hold true as of december 2010.
i paid r$15 entrada, beer r$8-10 +10% service tax added upon the start of consumption. most of the gdp action ends up here from about 12am-5am. the quality of girls seems fairly good, almost as good as previous years, with enough semi-pros to make it interesting. but for me the real gfe semi-pros are hard to find, as with previous years. i found that the most of the girls to be take a very professional attitude instead of a playful attitude, which inevitably turns me off. most girls wanted r$150 for tln (which really is about 2 or 3hrs until about 7pm or 8pm, longer or shorter depending on when you get out of mambo, which was about 3-5am most times) , but some will come down to r$100, with $20-10 for taxi.
[b]heineken bar / black & white bar, reggae bar and others. [/b] for those who like the slightly quieter venues, some of the other bars in the immediate area, offer food, drinks and games (like pool, darts) to enjoy the evening. they also have a good number of gdp girls hanging out in these venues.
in the early morning, if the girls (or hobbyists) have not scored at forro mambos by closing (5am) , they will typically congregate at the reggae bar (which closes about 6am-7am) or the late night lanchonette (just above the reggae bar) , as a last ditch effort score a client, before taking the bus home or to work in the morning.
[b]armazem [/b] wednesday night is the spot for armazem ('warehouse') , with a r$20 entrada and beer r$7. with a decent mix of non-pros, semi-pros and pros, it probably houses at least some 400+ women every wednesday. although my guess is only about 10-15% of women are non-pros. armazem, has a huge forro dance floor in the centre of the club and most of the people in the club will occupy this space during the night, as compared to the two (2) smaller disco dance floors on either side of the main forro dance floor. so as always in the northeast, it is helpful (but not mandatory) , if you can dance a little forro, for scoring brownie points with the girls. again most of the girls were asking r$150 (tln, but in reality was maybe 2-3hrs, by the time you left armazem).
[b]atlantis / coco beach. [/b] took a couple of trips to the beach area close to atlantis and coco beach to check for daytime action and was very disappointed as i saw none, that i could tell. there were perhaps one or two girls that were perhaps gdps, but as i watched for several minutes, they remained low-keyed and i could not with a good degree of certainty determine if they were gdps. so as reported with the regards to the crackdown of gdps at the praira do futuro beach area, i would concluded that it is still in effect.
[b]sw (street walkers) [/b] sws, numbers were less than in previous years along av. ambolico down to zipi bar / the gas station. most can be found at the barracas on beira mar and especially near mcdonalds on beira mar, on most evenings from around 7-8pm until 12-1am. the asking price with range from r$80-100 for 1hr.
warning: on several occasions, on av. ambolico (close to / near the habib's restaurant) , i ran into some very cute sws with very nice tight bodies and cute looks. since they looked a little on the young side (and dress a little on the sparse side) , the first question out of my mouth was 'quantos anos você tem? ' (how old are you?) as it turns out, unfortunately, they were ****. i wished them good luck and a good night and continued my stroll to iracema. so once again always ask for their age and ids to verify and confirm.
in the centro area, the sws are no longer found in the parks and are now (it seems) only located in the square (the praca with the big merchado, in front of the teatro jose de alencar on rua general sampaio). however, all i found here, were the worst of the worst. most are of gdps are 2s and 3s with the odd 5s. the asking price with range from r$20-30 for 1hr. nearby motels are r$6-7 for 1hr.
the only other option were some of the small drinking bars, spread throughout the centro area, but the gdps in these bars weren't any better. as with other cities this trip (manaus, belem, rio) , there seem to be a big lack of sws. i guess the prefeituras are cleaning house. with the exception being the sws transvestites, which i found to be growing in numbers.
[b]new centro boite. [/b] there is a new boite in centro, located across from the park (praca dos martires, on rue dr. joao moreira, the one with the beautiful, huge old tree) near the army barracks. free entrada (just pay for want you consume, although the doorman may tell you r$10 min. consumption, if he thinks you're a gringo). beer r$3-4, smirnof r$5-7. about 10-15 girls, that are mainly 5s. 6s with the odd 7s. programa r$50-70 / hr (although some girls will quote you r$50/70 for ½ hr). small in size, but decent enough bar, to spend an hour or so enjoying a beer. but it gets very busy (around 5pm-9pm) with the after work crowds as the guys get off work. but this can also be very entertaining as well, since many of the working brasileiros go absolutely wild with the strip shows, when the stripper (naked) goes into the crowd to pick a guy for a free hands-on / mouth-on table dance.
[b]hotels / flats. [/b]
•data man hotel, rua dom manoel • iracema (r$45 / day, w / cafe de manhã), tel: (85) 3219. 0833. yes gf!
•hotel aquarius, av. monsenhor tabosa. 1078 (r$75/day or r$65 if you pay cash, w/cafe de manhã), tel: (85) 3089. 8800. yes gf (+r$20 if she stays overnight, with single occupancy).
•flatshop, av. monsenhor tabosa. 1001 • iracema. quoted r$110 / day, 2-bedrooms, cable tv, internet all include.
website:[url]http://www.flatshop.com.br/2008/site/pt-br/index.php.[/url]
[b]summary. [/b]
it has been a few years since i was in fortaleza and overall i found it too still be a great place for hobbyists. yes many things have changed, many things have become expense and the quantity and quality of gdps has dropped, compared to past years. but again, enough cute girls to satisfy some of you hungry sharks.
so i spent about 9 days in early december 2010 and sessioned only 5 times (maybe i'm just getting old). two (2) from forro mambo, two (2) sws and one (1) from a beira mar barraca. it would have been nice to session with a few more girls from forro mambo, but the cost to pull a gdp out of there just becomes outrageous when you consider, r$15-entrada, r$50-drinks / serv. tax (avg. a couple of drinks for you and a couple of drinks for the girls) , r$10-15-taxi-to-hotel, r$100-150-gdp, r$10-20-taxi. total is r$185 (on the low-end) to r$250 (on the high-end). with that kinda price tag, rio (with all its flaws) looks pretty good.
now i know one of the big appeals to fortaleza is the non-pro / semi-pro action. non-pro action while appealing to me, seems (imo) to require too much time and effort to implement on a short stay and there's never any guarantees you'll end up sleeping with her. i've had some success in the past with non-pros, but invariably turned out to be a more of headache and a costly one in most cases. so i tend to mostly stick with the semi-pros. and due to the lack of them, fortaleza was somewhat disappointing this trip.
so with prices creeping steadily upwards, the lack of semi-pro gdps (imo) and sws, the absence of daytime beach gdps, anti-sexual tourism campaign (although i personally did not experience or see any altercations this trip, their presence was felt) and the long traveling distance for me, will make it a tough decision when deciding to come back again, when i compare it to the cost of hobbying in rio. but it still remains a good mongering / vacation destination alternative to rio.