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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963869]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't really agree with you in the past weeks had great sessions at Oase with top girl at least for me and as usual (sorry I know that some of you completely disagree about what I do) I told them will give 100 euros but give me great service and the results were very good, GFE experiences of top level, I was not thinking I was with a prostitutes. As usual I will not give any name because I find this useless and the chemie between the people is the key for a great session and not if the girl do this or that.
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1963951]Well, because they can charge 250 E for 1 pop, extras like kissing, OWO, licking balls? Add 50 for each.[/QUOTE]I see some prices like that too, but those are from local girls here. Non locals never charge more than 175 for half an hour. Which used to be the norm 8 years ago with most girls. But now maybe just 2% charge that much of the foreigners. 115-135e is standard for 30 min and the new rate for 15 min seems to be just 85 e. But only some girls offer that. Huge discount of you extend from 30min to 1 hour also. Like less than half the price per minute in average. So it is not as expensive as it once was. That global economy I guess. And higher competition.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1964003]Can find some real Russian speaking Russian, because I never met a Russian not speaking Russian, or Latvian also speaking Russian, at Samya, GT, LR, Oase, Sharks, First. Usually high level.[/QUOTE]Yes, you told me about the Samya girl. None at Oase or Sharks that I like these days though, and I was not that fuzzed up over Tatiana who went to GT either. Seen one or two from time to time at Artemis, bit just milf Ella left there now I think
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New Ariana
The new Ariana is a little brunette. She is cute but a little heavy when she chases customers with her girlfriend.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960551]Objectively, Ariana was very friendly and engaging. But she became very heavy when clients (regular or not) are with another girl. She beat with lots of girls thinking that others steal her customers. Maybe she did not understand that because of her youth, clients do not come to having sex only with one girl in the club where we have a choice among over 100 girls. When I saw she fought with another girl, she shouted to her that "I'm better than you! ". She obviously cannot have peace in the club with this type of character, same character as Iris, small skinny, which was also kicked off the club recently.
Competition has become so heavy at Sharks recently, the girls are ready to do anything. It is such a shame that the degradation of this level happen.[/QUOTE]
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The number of more than 200 girls (225 more exactly) comes from the reception. The blue keys for the girls only exist 200 copies. The reception starts distributing the red keys for customers to the girls, so the this number of more than 200 girls was announced to the girls by the reception. That's why they all sing the same song about the maximum number of girls.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1961949]I mean it seems strange that many girls said same number of girls (225). I suppose existence of same source of information for these girls. Maybe reception? That means.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1964046]Yes, you told me about the Samya girl. None at Oase or Sharks that I like these days though, and I was not that fuzzed up over Tatiana who went to GT either. Seen one or two from time to time at Artemis, bit just milf Ella left there now I think[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Ina. Lat has gone, I'm happy for her, but you should like small blond Irina. Ru at Oase in night team, one of the busiest.
Not only Tatiana / Ilona, not at GT at the moment, but GT have a new Russian tornado, competing with my last night tornado at LR, Jenni. I will regret my sweet medusa. Also Nora. Ru and Lily. Ru at LR. And reddish Katea. Ru at Samya. Also angel and top level Marina. Lat at Sharks. And I met in FKK for only 50/30 mn, other Latvians like Lena or another Inna at GT, now escort in Paris. Russian escorts in Paris are 150/200 for 30 mn and 200/300 for 1 hour. For one, Milky is on tour.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1963927]Agreed, but those days are over. Girls are not like before.[/QUOTE]Service levels all over the world are dwindling. This is because of the emerging ethic of acquiring as much as possible with as little effort as possible. This is a natural evolution of capitalism which dictates that greed is good. Older hobbyists are affected more because of the memories of better days. Younger punters are more accepting of the status quo because it takes less to get them off and they do not know better.
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Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1964160]Service levels all over the world are dwindling. This is because of the emerging ethic of acquiring as much as possible with as little effort as possible. This is a natural evolution of capitalism which dictates that greed is good. Older hobbyists are affected more because of the memories of better days. Younger punters are more accepting of the status quo because it takes less to get them off and they do not know better.[/QUOTE]Not really, that only works in a booming sellers market. But not in a market where sellers outstrips buyers. This is capitalism also. Quality is the only thing that lets some survive and others go bankrupt in a bad market situation. Shipping and oil and coal industry are three examples these days.
My theory is that of different group rules in different clubs, and that they are sometimes missreading their own control of a market, thinking that customers cannot move clubs, type of service, country or even continent (considering all the Asians and Americans). Shipping or even Opec is a good example also here where it seems they need at least about 30% market share to control prizes all depending on the amount of oversupply. If you want to control a market through some cartel, like it seems some groups of girls are trying to do, then they need a huge market share within just one group... which is not likely to happen in this business. Or they need something special that gives them an edge.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1964206]
My theory is that of different group rules in different clubs, and that they are sometimes missreading their own control of a market, thinking that customers cannot move clubs, type of service, [/QUOTE]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964175]Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.[/QUOTE]The number of clubs has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Russian, Polish and other nationalitys that no longer work in Germany.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964211]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree, but information spreads these days quicker than ever. So that kind of luring money from tourists can come back to haunt the girls in the future. It comes down to integrity perhaps also.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1964212]The number of clubs has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Russian, Polish and other nationalitys that no longer work in Germany.[/QUOTE]Didn't say that.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1964215]Yes I agree, but information spreads these days quicker than ever.[/QUOTE]"Information spreading" about a WG only damages or enhances her reputation amongst people like us who spend multiple hours a week on a forum (lurking or posting). Guys who spend hundreds of hours a years in an FKK are a small minority. These men I'd classify as hardcore mongers. For people, who spend less time in FKKs, it is not practical to waste too much time reading a forum.
For example, when I went to Brazil, I knew I'd only be in termas about 6-8 hours total spread out over five days. I spent maximum 45 minutes researching the Brazil ISG threads. So I didn't remember a single girls name. The only things I took mental notes about were: general reputations of the various termas, pricing, and convenience.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1964215]So that kind of luring money from tourists can come back to haunt the girls in the future. [/QUOTE]
Some of the girls don't care about their long term reputations as providers. Some girls have it set in their minds that they will only be in the business another 12 months, so its about making as much money in the short term as possible.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1964231] people like us who spend multiple hours a week on a forum (lurking or posting). Guys who spend hundreds of hours a years in an FKK are a small minority. These men I'd classify as hardcore mongers. [/QUOTE]Ok, I lost. LOL.
But what I ment was what you write about the termas. the general interpretation. and how many times dont we see people asking about the best LU here or there? what club is the best etc etc ad nauseum... because I clutter up the forum with the interesting stuff all the time people fool themselves into not reading. lol
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[QUOTE]=McAdonis;1964231...For example, when I went to Brazil, I knew I'd only be in termas about 6-8 hours total spread out over five days. I spent maximum 45 minutes researching the Brazil ISG threads. So I didn't remember a single girls name. The only things I took mental notes about were: general reputations of the various termas, pricing, and convenience...[/QUOTE]Brazil is in a class by itself. Just go to an establishment and choose any garota who tickles your fancy and a good time is guaranteed. Brazilian women go into the business almost as much for the fun as for the money.