Kyiv

A friendly tip: the Ukraine forum has different threads like Kiev-Other Places-Escorts-Travel Announcements. It's best to place your post accordingly, where we will be looking for this information. Like your. Recent travel plans. And. In order to exchange personal information you better use Personal message. Good luck, RB

Chill Bill, your question refers to a matter of an opinion, taste and preference. About taste, people can quarrel all day long and night. And we don't need this forum to carry on more arguments, but information. In general, on this forum you seem to be fat on questions and thin on information. You could help us there, I'm sure. Information about Rio is legio on the Internet, even photos, see [url]http://striptease.ua/eng/clubs/rio-club.[/url] I think generally speaking, the girls in Rio have decent looks, but few are stunning or impressive. It this says nothing about character and performance in other regions. Which can be a matter of individual taste, also.

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1355206]Tunang, You really do not need such a thing as a tour guide to get a girl out of Rio. If you read the posts I wrote, a good number of which are referenced in the Reports of Distinction thread, you will have plenty of background information and ideas about methodology and how to function best in the strip club, to simply go and have a good time even by yourself.

Of course, if you're traveling solo, having a wingman is nice, so that you can go to any mongering venue together, rather than alone. But your wingman can be a newbie also, because he is there for comradeship, rather than to show you the ropes. You should simply post your offer to hook up as wingmen, or to have a drink together, on the thread for travel announcements, and hopefully another one of the members of this forum will be traveling at the same time to Kiev, and may want a partner in crime.

I have read of tour guide services for the FKK clubs in Germany. And when I had just begun to discover the existence of the FKK clubs and wanted to go right away, and didn't know how to find them and which ones were best and how to best operate inside an FKK, the idea of a guided tour of the FKK clubs, with transportation and hotels and everything else included, actually sounded like an easy solution to be able to enjoy an immediate trip there without worry and with much satisfaction, even despite the large extra cost of such an FKK tour. But I kept reading the FKK threads and I realized soon enough that truly all the necessary information was in the threads, in very detailed form. Even things like instructions on which train to take to a particular location and how many stops, etc, and I ultimately discovered a map referenced, with all the places pinpointed on it, as well as many posts with advice on how to function best inside the clubs. So I ultimately decided to plan and prepare for a solo trip with no tour guides. And I realize how foolish it would have been to spend money on such a tour guide. Every bit of necessary information was available on this forum, or the Internet. I just had to put the time into properly investigating the facts. And it was truly more of an adventure doing that mongering trip solo.

So my advice to you is to prepare for your Kiev trip methodically, by reading this thread going back at least two years, and extracting the usable information you need into a summary document that you can use for reference. And using the Internet tools available to help you learn about your destination, in order to have a nice trip. You don't need to spend money on a mongering tour guide, when the info is all here in the thread. Just have the patience to read and use it.

If, AFTER you have read the info on the thread, you still have questions, you can raise them here on the thread, and you will get thoughtful answers to any good question.

Before you conclude that Rio is the best option for you for take out, make sure you familiarize yourself with the cost hierarchy of the various mongering options that exist in Kiev, and their various pros and cons. I have written a lot on the various options and how they compare to one another in various aspects I thought might be significant to a monger. Those prior posts will be helpful to you.

You might be a newbie, but you can be an educated newbie.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. It is very helpful. Now I will try to be a educated newbie.

Wow, so many people replied my post. Guys, you are so helpful.

[QUOTE=Jose Cuervo; 1354685]Good review. My 5 cents:

- Look at the Reply rate at the bottom of profile screen. In general the girls who offer 4p4 tend to reply more often than normal girls. For example, let's say you see that some other factors mentioned by [b]LilJoey[/b] Distinguish a profile as one which belongs to p4p girl. Therefore, obviously the girl gets a lot of messages with p4p offers. High Reply rate in this case is a signal that she doesn't ignore them (what most probably would do a normal girl).

- Look at the "I like" (Mne nravits'ja) section of the profile. Sometimes it is created specifically to advertise girl's interest in 4p4. For example, I saw this (exactly in that order) in one profile: I like: men, money, new friendships. All the others interests were listed after that, but there was no need to read further to understand the hint.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the reply rate thing has been worked out by many of these bait and switch shysters, so you might see a red bar (low reply rate) but it's still some dodgy pimp outfit on the other end of the line.

ticking. do you have some contacts llike the below you would mind sharing with my (eg by pm)?

i would appreciate and trade some good contacts with you.

[quote=ticking timebomb; 1203014]yes, the supermarket is a dangerous place to shop when the juices are flowing, but the alternative is having a wank and. well what's the point? when you wank, you fantasize about having sex with a woman or three. of course, some of you may have kinkier fantasies deposited in the wank bank, but my point is if i'm sitting in front of my pc late at night, well the ease and speed at which i can have a non-pixel girl round at my gaff. it's just too tempting.

so, from time to time, i have had some interesting "blind dates" show up. the one who brought her sister, ('my good friend') was definitely a highlight. this was a genuine, non-salon, real photo hook-up. sometimes you get lucky. sometimes you get more than you bargained for.

a few nights back is an example. 6am, home from unfruitful wanderings (it's ironic that i'm so picky when i'm out on the town but end up playing pot luck with mamba) and i called an obvious agency ad on mamba. a girl showed up a bit later than promised and came into my flat, started flirting, devoured a load of cognac and dragged me off to the bedroom. we had a drunken and prolonged shagathon. she drank more cognac and passed out. i was knackered by that point anyway (noon) and fit to zonk out. the agency kept ringing her mobile (she'the already stalled them a load of times when she was awake – an enthusiastic bed partner) , so i finally answered it and told the guy (yeah, guy) on the other end that she was crashed out. we shared a laugh about it and he asked me if she was "good girl". well, i wasn't quite sure how i should inerpret "good girl" considering the circumstances and what we'd just been up to and that she'd probably not fit into most people's "good girl" stereotype. but i'm not most people. i assured him that she was a "good girl" and we wished each other good night. i was just about to roll over and get some sleep when she started pissing herself. no, not laughing. actually pissing my bed. i was like,"fuck!" i tried to move her, wake her up get her to stop or at least run to the frigging bathroom, but she was in the sleep of the very drunk. so i had no choice but to leave her there. the next day's laundry was fun.

she finally left at 3 in the afternoon. i didn't tell her about the bed wetting incident. what would be the point? total cost – 2 [email]hours@600[/email] uah per hour. total time in my flat – 8 hours (of which 4 or 5 were with our eyes open). she gave bbbj, anal and just about anything else we could dream up between us.

so, this is me paying back for all those useful (sometimes confusing) reports that i've read here. also, i think a list of mamba tips would be useful on this forum. dos and don'ts etc.

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In the pharmacies of UA, Pfizer Viagra looks exactly the same and costs about the same ($20 a pill) but it is absolutely fake. Do not buy it there, it is a rip off. Trust me, I know Viagra.

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1355336]Ugghh! I hope your post doesn't start that silly debate again! It's a strip club. Like any strip club they are hiring hot young girls to dance. That's what their business depends on. Some girls will be hotter than other girls, and some less so. Think of where the club is located. It is in Kiev, Ukraine. That means that the population pool out of which the club draws its employees, is the same population pool that produces all those hotties you see walking around everywhere in Kiev. So using that brain material that is located within your cranium for the purpose for which it was intended, don't you think it is obvious that there will be some hot girls in a Kiev strip club? The answer is that of course there will be a cross section of the population pool of young good looking women dancing in this club, or any other. Some girls will be medium level girls on the 5 to 7 range, and a portion of the girls will be a little better looking and on the 7 to 8 range, while a proportion of other girls will be even better looking than that, and you will feel they are in the 8 to 9 range. You may even see a few girls that you feel are 10s. And the guy sitting next to you will disagree with you about how to rate each girl. Suffice it to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and a particular girl you feel is an 8, might look like a 10 to another monger, and vice versa. The matter is eE]

Avoid it. Horny Tourist Trap: you will get fucked but you won't get laid. Avoid, Avoid, Avoid. I am a 6 year veteran of Kiev (I am here right now) , of 5 to 6 trips per year, one week each. Take my word for it, I have no interest one way or the other.

[QUOTE=PedroToronja;1356483]In )the pharmacies of UA, Pfizer Viagra looks exactly the same and costs about the same ($20 a pill) but it is absolutely fake. Do not buy it there, it is a rip off. Trust me, I know Viagra.[/QUOTE]Of course it is a fake

But.

Take the "original" Ukranien "Viagra"

The Name is Poteciale, it is in a red box with little pic from Aphroditia on it.

A pack 4pills with 100mg, cost 120-150grn

This pill works 100% I try it much times.

In Pharmacy, the want sell you viagra, but they you want this one,

Some have it some don't have it.

Take a look, near from Viagra stand this pill.

Pedro. Would you care for a beer? Lets go hunting.

You cannot get PM. Sadly.

Lets meet and exchange.

[QUOTE=PedroToronja; 1356489]

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1355336]Ugghh! I hope your post doesn't start that silly debate again! It's a strip club. Like any strip club they are hiring hot young girls to dance. That's what their business depends on. Some girls will be hotter than other girls, and some less so. Think of where the club is located. It is in Kiev, Ukraine. That means that the population pool out of which the club draws its employees, is the same population pool that produces all those hotties you see walking around everywhere in Kiev. So using that brain material that is located within your cranium for the purpose for which it was intended, don't you think it is obvious that there will be some hot girls in a Kiev strip club? The answer is that of course there will be a cross section of the population pool of young good looking women dancing in this club, or any other. Some girls will be medium level girls on the 5 to 7 range, and a portion of the girls will be a little better looking and on the 7 to 8 range, while a proportion of other girls will be even better looking than that, and you will feel they are in the 8 to 9 range. You may even see a few girls that you feel are 10s. And the guy sitting next to you will disagree with you about how to rate each girl. Suffice it to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and a particular girl you feel is an 8, might look like a 10 to another monger, and vice versa. The matter is eE]

Avoid it. Horny Tourist Trap: you will get fucked but you won't get laid. Avoid, Avoid, Avoid. I am a 6 year veteran of Kiev (I am here right now) , of 5 to 6 trips per year, one week each. Take my word for it, I have no interest one way or the other.[/QUOTE]

Hi Pedro,

I was reading your Kiev report about model girls from agency but you did not mention anything after all.

How was it?

Did you score the models or failed?

Thanks in advance.

Naykan

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1356599]Of course it is a fake

But.

Take the "original" Ukranien "Viagra"

The Name is Poteciale, it is in a red box with little pic from Aphroditia on it.

A pack 4pills with 100mg, cost 120-150grn

This pill works 100% I try it much times.

In Pharmacy, the want sell you viagra, but they you want this one,

Some have it some don't have it.

Take a look, near from Viagra stand this pill.[/QUOTE]Dear Harry,

What about the Cialis available in pharmacies in Kiev that is packaged in tamper resistant packaging from Lilly Pharmaceuticals company? I asked about it but didn't buy it or try it yet. They wanted $14 a pill. In the USA the pharmacy sells it for something like $26 a pill. I purchased it once in San Jose, Costa Rica (in the tamper proof packaging of Lilly Pharmaceuticals also) at a pharmacy for $14 a pill, although I was concerned about fake or expired or contaminated pills, but it worked when I used it. I also purchased it in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic at a pharmacy for an even lower price per pill, and it worked.

Does anyone have experience using the Cialis sold in pharmacies in Kiev?

I usually come with an adequate supply, but it's important to know if the local supply is ok or not, just in case.

LJ

I buy 2 years before cialis in a pharmacy, .

And.

3 hours later I take a potenciale.

Cialis doesn't work, it was a fake.

Use this what I told, out works 100%

The ones I bought, the brand name, worked fine. Both Cialis and Viagra. But it is better to buy them ahead of time, from an onlne pharmacy, at a fraction of the cost. Information about reputable online pharmacies can be found in the appropriate section of the forum

By the way, if you do not really need them and only use them as insurance, in case you are tired or have drunk too much, make sure you split them into half or quarters, or your wood will scare you, and maybe the girl.

[QUOTE=Harry Hirsch; 1356770]I buy 2 years before cialis in a pharmacy, .

And.

3 hours later I take a potenciale.

Cialis doesn't work, it was a fake.

Use this what I told, out works 100%[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoctorOral; 1356619]Pedro. Would you care for a beer? Lets go hunting.

You cannot get PM. Sadly.

Lets meet and exchange.

[QUOTE=PedroToronja; 1356489][/QUOTE]You or any other monger in the vicinity by 1 PM, Friday Dec 7th, I will be at that bar, as you walk in to the left of the piano, near the windows, having my capuccino with my iPad open, and very likely reading my email from it. Just approach and ask if I 'work; at ISG, Inc. Hope to meet you.