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[QUOTE=CoolManFever;2062303]Hello guys,
I am organizing a FKK bachelor party trip next year and we want to hit up a different FKK clubs every day for 5-7 days. We plan to land in Frankfurt and drive around the country by renting a car to take some nice pictures of the country side to take back home to show our wives. In the mean time, we want to hit up all the well known FKK clubs in Germany. It seems like Oase, Shark, and World are must visit around Frankfurt. What other FKK clubs are worth the drive to beside these big 3's on this forum? Also, Which redlight district can we check out in the mean time? Also, is it good idea to go to FKK around Easter weekend? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]To make it easy, Eastern is not a good time, some girls will go home. RLD in Frankfurt no need to go there, it is better to go to a cheap entry club like ROM. World is not a must go due to strong decrease in the LU.
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After my three day tour I'd like to reassure anyone wondering whether to visit Germany any more or not that, for the time being at least, it is worth visiting. I went to Sharks, Dietzenbach, La Luna, Darmstadt streetwalkers, and apartments in Duisburg, Koblenz, and Hanau.
Obviously this doesn't cover everything, but speaking to other members, it seems that my experiences were typical.
I am going to indulge myself and list the highlights
1. DATY with a Darmstadt streetwalker who produced more fluid than anyone I've known, and was amongst the most beautiful girls I've ever met. Fortunately she didn't know how much I liked her
2 My visit to La Luna for beautiful Vanessa and out of this world service Kathi
3 Betty at Sharks (be warned, difficult for new customers to break)
4 Meeting a fellow isg member on a seven week visit who was full of ideas
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2062331]15,000 reports does not make 15,000 reporters.
[/QUOTE]I'd contend that the 20-30 most prominent posters here influence the actions of thousands of readers. My first FKK trip was 2009. I picked Oase simply because it had the most ISG reports. From 2009-2013, I would sometimes go months without reading ISG. If I planned to visit a particular club on Saturday, I'd visit that club's thread, starting at the previous Saturday and would read until I was current. This meant that I read probably less than one percent of the total ISG reports. As such, I only processed info that was "trending" or repeated ad nauseam. And then I did a keyword search for "big tits", haha. Together those three things, would guide my decision on whether I should attend the originally planned club. If I were a club manager that was afraid of the authorities, the sheer volume and frequency of ISG reports would make it worth a quick, cursory look. As a club manager, I'd probably come on ISG once every six months. Spend ten seconds to do a keyword search for "BBBJ" and another five minutes to review the results. Based on that review, it might compel me to some further action.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2062331]
Would mongers who obtain BBBJ, against both the law of land and club rules qualify as "rogue mongers" Why not?[/QUOTE]I thought "rogue" was a synonym for "non-conformist". Communities, even online ones, have norms. For instance, I noticed that when two ISG posters hang out at the club together, they won't reference knowing each other on the forum. They are convinced that if others know their ISG handle, it will lead to "trouble". I may be skeptical. I may think they are over-reacting and their fear is irrational, but what I think is irrelevant. They were nothing but friendly to me, so I will respect their wishes. The clubs and WGs seem to want BBBJ offerings not to be publicized. I will respect their wishes, especially the ones that treated me well. Please don't try to read into this further. I am NOT saying that people who have a different opinion are by extension, "disrespectful". Even if I did say that, who cares. I am just a loser on the Internet.
BTW off-topic, in the past, I have stated that forums have minimal impact on most WG's business. Allow me to clarify. Most readers probably will only remember the most mentioned superstars, and the most mentioned scammers. If some Sharks WG, only had five or so mentions as being a scammer, that will probably only be seen by the most religious of ISG readers. For the other 99% of readers, it will get lost in all the noise, like this bullshit post. So it will have probably have zero impact on the offending WG's future business.
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McAdonis. As usual, interesting points. As you say, very little of what we write is useful given the sheer volume of hot air (to which I am now adding).
I really believe that we each need to find our own way, just noting the odd bad apple or star. For 99% of the time the "stars" don't suit me. In 15 years the only stars which worked for me were Andrea / Nina (WorldArtemis) Lisa (World) and Roxana/Jennifer/Celine (World / Goldentime) and Kathi and Miruna (La Luna) Five out of hundreds. I'd encourage all new members to take a chance, pick clubs at random (having quickly read the threads), and go by their instincts.
As you say, beware what is trending. Usually by the time a club is clearly trending it is past its peak. Best to search out clubs before they trend. Like I had the good luck to discover a brief peak at Finca last year, and started a brief trend: but by the time it was noticeable the club was already ebbing. Or with Andrea many years ago, I sparked her enormous popularity ( there were fewer clubs, girls, and posts then) and then she became overbooked, so getting her was difficult
In my post of a couple of hours ago, I list my current top sessions. Anyone who takes that too seriously is likely to be disappointed: it just reflects my agenda in life.At most it will raise some possibilities
Cheers
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Optimist: Yes my tastes are too different, so I am not sure if I have sampled many superstars. Generally, I don't have to wait more than an hour for my WGs to emerge from the room.
By trends, I mean things like knowing about an upcoming party I need to avoid. WGs on holiday. Low male customer turnout. That's really the only time WGs are genuinely happy to see my cheap charlie ass.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2062677] Please don't try to read into this further. I am NOT saying that people who have a different opinion are by extension, "disrespectful". Even if I did say that, who cares. I am just a loser on the Internet.[/QUOTE]We write behind fictional avatar names, and not our own names. Therefore we do not simply advocate our own interests, agenda or ideas, but we take a stand as opinnion leaders (voicing an opinion somewhere out there) in theoretical discussions on a discussion board.
Some forumers on some forums go to great lengths discussing between their own 10 different virtual nicknames just to create fuzz and hype around certain topics or agendas. Especially well known in stock exchange forums. A loser there might be the wealthiest guy also.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2062318]
I presume there is absolutely no way that the German police will make any of its female officers walk around naked at the FKK (or almost naked on lingerie day) and solicit bare back blow jobs. I know Germany is different, but it can't be that much different. That would have to irritate the female German policewomen if it occurred.[/QUOTE]It's more than just walking around nude. A guy doesn't have to do feeling up, blow job and fucking in that order. If a guy were to fuck and then want the BBBJ, the policewoman would have to first get fucked, before busting the guy.
And there is no guarantee that every guy would request BBBJ. What if a bunch of guys take her to fuck in the ass with a condom? Quite legal. She would have to take it up, and wait and wait until she catches that one rule breaker. Her cover would not last long if she walked out at the first mention of sex w / o blowjob.
Far easier for the police to enlist an existing hooker as an entrapment agent (if that is their gig), than to send a regular police woman to do this. I think the chance of this is in any case too small to bother.
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Jnpr: what if some of us want to hold onto our coptical illusion? The one of Monica LeRimsky, the eloquent German copsucker steeping our teabags while we start fishing for brown trout? Mother natures natural organic way. It doesn't matter what cover she brings, we will trust her deeply anyway. Something like that.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2062700]
Far easier for the police to enlist an existing hooker as an entrapment agent (if that is their gig), than to send a regular police woman to do this. I think the chance of this is in any case too small to bother.[/QUOTE]I know that Germany is more liberated than other countries, but I doubt that could ever happen.
The worldwide Yahoo News headlines would be The German Police Pimp Out Poor Romanian Girl Barely Out Of Her Teens.
The story would be an embarrassment to the German Police. Most would not understand the context.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2062710]I know that Germany is more liberated than other countries, but I doubt that could ever happen.
The worldwide Yahoo News headlines would be The German Police Pimp Out Poor Romanian Girl Barely Out Of Her Teens.
The story would be an embarrassment to the German Police. Most would not understand the context.[/QUOTE]That would be great!
If they did do that, every man would want to join the German police force. Their job would be to go try out all the hookers in Germany to see if they are a "good fit" for the force. I'll do that job for free. Trying out new hookers everyday and catching all the rebel BBBJ lovers! LOL!
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2062312]The redlight districts have always been CBJ. So why even bother. Germany doesn't seem to be a great tourist destination these days.[/QUOTE]Folks here should know better than this by now. Sure, the default case was CBJ. But BBBJ was available with a little detective work. Even (shock!) BBFS was available from some, although they might deny it to the random visitor.
But going to an FKK was an easier way for sure to find BBBJ. And the RTC clubs were the easiest (not only) places to find BBFS. Both are still available although a bit more restricted.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub] AO was banned (by club management) in all clubs except the RTCs pre July 1st 2017. And if it became known, the girl and the guy were thrown out.
HB..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2062257]I believe this to be counterfactual. For example, I've never heard of such a thing regarding Bernd's.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2062392]It's not. Bernd's had AO unofficially on the menu.
HB.[/QUOTE]I can't make sense of what you are saying.
Bernd's is not an RTC club. If you say AO was unofficially on the menu, then AO was in fact not banned in this non-RTC club.
So by example your claim that AO was banned in "all clubs except the RTCs" isn't true.
(By the way Bernd's was just an example. In fact I don't recall BBFS being mentioned as "banned" at *any* club (outside of Bavaria)).
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2062756]I can't make sense of what you are saying.
Bernd's is not an RTC club. If you say AO was unofficially on the menu, then AO was in fact not banned in this non-RTC club.
So by example your claim that AO was banned in "all clubs except the RTCs" isn't true.
(By the way Bernd's was just an example. In fact I don't recall BBFS being mentioned as "banned" at *any* club (outside of Bavaria)).[/QUOTE]Some girls were fired from some big clubs after being said to provide BBFS, now it s illegal even in ex AO clubs. Bernds was said to be a normal club where quite easy to find BBFS, many Bulgarians are used to.
About writings, usually police is able to find computer or phone which sent.
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Can you explain what exactly an RTC is? I did a search and found a description (on another site) that suggested it was just one of the lower class FKKs. They said it was a joke because Rote Teppich means red carpet and these clubs were less than red carpet treatment. What makes a club an RTC?
That report listed the following clubs as "RTC":
Villa Romantika in Recklingshausen
Grimberg Sauna in Gelsenkirchen
Arabella in Bochum
Villa Venus in Duisburg
Freudenberg 39 in Bochum
Club laluna in Moers
Verena in Dortmund
M exclusiv in Munster and Buldern
No mention of Luderland or Annabella (sister clubs to some of the above) or Dietzenbach (which I've seen listed as an RTC).
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2062457]Then why is it that plenty of other sites don't censor in the same way, and yet, they most certainly can receive and have credit card payments processed? I know because I am a member of those sites. Is it perhaps dependent on which company with which requirements is doing the processing?[/QUOTE]You can find Jackson's explanation here: [URL]http://isgprohibitedwords.info/[/URL].
Just scroll down to the bottom of the censored words list and read his explanation that begins with "Commercial Censorship. ".
