Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Snow1998; 1289811]Last Thursday decided on a massage at my fav fili spa in be dub. Booked a girl I hadn't taken the last few visits. Well there are 3 of them I alternate with. Every visit I try to get them 20 chips worth of mbl credit each. So I get some preferential treatment. Well this time we both got horny halfway through I got a BJ and I returned the favour ended up taking her doggie. She actually came before I was done. I think she enjoyed it more than I did.

Over the weekend Friday went to the movies, after that it was just after 1am called G mn spa was told open till 3am. So headed that way. Got there and the mamsan said all girls busy could I wait, had nothing planned and was not sleepy so waited. She directed me to a room and I had a lie down. Was actually falling asleep when she brought 2 girls in to choose about 40mts later. Took both of them and had a wonderful erotic massage from 2 PRCs who even at that hour wanted to please the customer. 4 hands in that manner, I lost track of who was doping what, with a lot of DFK as well and access to all assets, junior very excitedly coughed up. Had a warm towel rub down as I don't like the showers being outside.[/QUOTE]Snow1998! Thanks for sharing. Great to see you still out there exploring. Pm sent to you mate cheers.

Arrabista

I'm going to visit Dubai for the first time on 15-17. June.

Anyone in my age group ( 25-40) who wants to party around?

[QUOTE=Pieter01;1289828].to the next question will you take a video or pictures with a hidden camera or for your own collection and if so do you think it is okay.[/QUOTE]This is a debate that goes on and on. Here's MY take, killjoy though it may be:
[list][*]Hidden camera? Let me put it this way, if you went to her place, [i]enjoyed[/i] her company, would you be OK if she had a hidden camera taking photos / videos without your permission, to use as she liked?

[*]If you ask her permission, then OK, as long as she [b]fully[/b] understands. A lot think they do, but don't. For them,"internet" means e-mail, as in Point-2-Point, to a FEW friends, NOT broadcast to the masses. Would you be OK if your photo was posted on a "Patronizer of Pros*ti*utes" forum, rather than just on her mobile phone?[/list]
I took a LOT of photos, always asking, and when I said they were for ME, I meant strictly for me. I wasn't cute, playing lose with words, as in "for me, which [u]I[/u] interpret as for my use, as in posting on the net". Just think of your job, how would you feel if your customer started getting cute with the contract's words, interpreting as HE likes, [u]unilaterally[/u]. It's happened to me, and it SUCKS.

A lie is a lie, whether by commission OR [u]omission[/u].

MY answer is: Be honest. Just ask yourself how would you feel if the situation were reversed?

Nice first report.

[QUOTE=WolvinDubai;1290608]. It's ok but the pushiness of the Ethiopians / Africans is a little too much. One night I told one I was gay and that still didn't get her to leave me alone.[/quote]Have said it before, will say it again: THIS works:[list][*]1. Just state: "I don't touch you, DON'T touch me." [b]No[/b] discussion, simple statement. Then ignore. She should move on.
[*]2. Tell her she is bothering you, and she should move on. If she doesn't, you'll speak to the manager. No threat; again, simple statement. She should move on.
[*]3. If she hasn't moved on, then simply tell the next passing waitress you'd like to speak to the manager. She will leave, and when he comes over, complement him on the bar. If she hasn't left, then tell the manager that this person is bothering you, and you are NOT enjoying yourself. After all, YOU are where the bar makes their money.[/list]
Thing is, word WILL get around, and you'll face less harassment. A girl getting banned from a bar IS a big deal to her.

Girls rely on your social upbringing of not being rude. But if you were walking down the street, you wouldn't let some shop owner engage you in unwanted conversation or drag you into his store. You don't have to be rude, just firm, with management as the ultimate club.

[QUOTE=WolvinDubai;1290608]Seems she has all sorts of problems with Visa, owed people money, etc.[/quote]I'd say all true. PRC's are FL's; while they may have borrowed money, they work for themselves. A lot of CIS types are controlled and have debts to pay. Airfare, housing, food, ... (think company town). They have to pay it all back before they start making money for themselves. I think 15000 AED isn't that much; I knew a girl who, on arrival, was told she owed 10,000 [u]USD[/u]. She was popular, and had paid most of it back, and lucky as the debt was not arbitrarily increased, but "reasonable" as in apartment rent, food, etc. Buddy knew a girl who was not allowed to see the books. Just had to take the boss's word for how much she had paid back and how much she still owed.

[QUOTE=WolvinDubai;1290608]However don't most of these WGs have day time jobs have you in the malls, or other various service industry jobs that basically don't pay jack but provide a Visa sponsorship?[/QUOTE]Actually, most don't. Dubious travel companies provide the sponsorships. Or a "paper-only" company will provide a sponsorship. Or a girl will pay a company for a resident visa. But no actual work involved, or having a day job. A few will moonlight, but most of the girls in the clubs have only one [i]office[/i].

All local companies have a local majority owner, and if you talk with just about any Emerati, he'll have a couple of companies, at least on paper. Worst scam is a girl's passport will be taken and bought by a fellow countryman who's overstayed, so she can get out within the time limit. The actual owner will have to buy another passport when it's her time to leave.

I always find the "lessons learned" FR's much more interesting than the simple FR's. Thanks for posting. Hopefully, will save someone money, if not you. The good news is, in a year or two, this will be a funny story for you.

[QUOTE=Airport;1290470]As Saira was a heavy smoker, my room at the nearby hotel was a non-smoking room so I told her of this. She wanted another hour in the club to smoke as many cigarettes as possible to compensate. I think that this was a time-wasting tactic on her part. I had to pay her boss the 1, 000 AED (via her) at the club. I wasn't really comfortable doing this but I decided to go ahead anyway as it was simpler than splitting the fee between her and her boss. Saira also drinks a lot and had been downing pints for most of the evening. A lot of warning signs were there but I mistakenly ignored them.[/quote]Last sentence sums it up perfectly. That's the definition of disappointment: the difference between YOUR fantasy and REALITY. You saw what you wanted to see. Wasting time = looking for a better client. The 1 payment might have been [i]simplier[/i], but obviously much more [u]risky[/u]. Her heavy drinking? Personal experience, nothing worse than when you're enjoying yourself, and she has to interrupt for some [i]output[/i].

[QUOTE=Airport;1290470]Soon her phone rang so I got it for her and woke her up so she could answer it. She spoke in Urdu with someone and then told me she had to go, and then proceeded to get dressed and left. There was little I could do about the situation at this point as her boss had my money. She actually had the cheek to ask for taxi money and her own fee, saying that the 1, 000 AED I had given to her for her boss was only for her boss. Something which I had ensured was not the case prior to agreeing to book her! So, it was a waste of 1, 000 AED and all I got was some kissing and cuddling.[/quote]Not a dig at you, but to make a point to others: If this had NOT happened, THEN I would have been surprised. What incentive did she have to stay and perform? In HER best interests to return to the bar for another client. Girls like these are NOT interested in repeat business. If you're at a hotel, she knows you're a visitor, soon to depart (MOST cases).

[QUOTE=Airport; 1290470]My suitcase had been tampered with and so did some of my clothing which was on top of my suitcase. One of the pockets in a pair of shorts had been turned inside out. Naturally I was rather shocked. I decided not to say anything as nothing seemed to be missing. I locked anything else that I deemed to be of value in the in-room safe.

Interestingly, as she was leaving my hotel room she showed me her handbag as a gesture to point out that she wasn't taking anything from my room. Bearing in mind that at no point had I mentioned anything about my belongings being tampered with, I can only assume that she knew she had been caught rifling through my stuff.[/QUOTE]Yes, she knew she'd been caught. If you hadn't, I doubt she'd been so forthcoming. If you hadn't caught her, she'd figure you wouldn't notice anything missing until after you got home, or figured you'd spent that 500 dhs "somewhere".

Posted here before, worth repeating:[list][*]All valuables / temptations in room safe BEFORE you go out for the evening.
[*]Mini bar locked, with no key, or else cleared (which it should have been anyway on your arrival, you having bought alcohol at the arrivals' duty free, and sodas from the local mini-mart).
[*]Room phone blocked for international calls.[/list]Paranoid, yes, but the old cliche of "an ounce of prevention..."

Paying up-front, TO HER, IN THE ROOM, has some risk, but paying IN THE BAR, to a 3RD PARTY. That's an invitation to be ripped off. Agree to that, and it's like having a sign on your back,"Kick me". The only way I'd agree to that would be if I knew the boss and knew the girl, but then, if I knew them, they'd know me, so SHOULDN'T be required. I NEVER DID, and would never consider it (bar 3rd party payment). DON'T DO IT, unless you're prepared to lose all the money for nothing. As people continue to do so, the scam continues as it obviously works.

Look on the bright side. At least you were smart enough to NOT go to the police and make a complaint, as someone once did (did not end happily for HIM).

Thanks for the response Bravo as well as clarifying what the scene is really like out there. The harassment at York wasn't bad enough to where it warranted a manager, I think it was more of a first and second time in the environment can be a little overwhelming for a relative newbie like myself where as if you go to a place that's primarily CIS, PRC type you basically have to show interest in the girl and talk to her. At the York it's like a meat market and your the meat to these girls trying to make a buck.

[QUOTE=Snow1998; 1288917]Braveboy79,

I tried replying your pm but got denied.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Now my account is fixed. Please try pm now.

Many thanks mate. I will owe you one.

BB

Just wanted to start sharing my experiences as I used to be a silent contributor due to my limited access to the site.

After I used to be a regular in the " late " Rattlesnake, I went last week to Premier, haven't visited for few years and I saw the quality is a bit down although the prices are still as high as it used to be in old times. Full of saudis, was on Saturday night with good ratio of girls to boys, but 80% were below 7.

I saw a girl who is looking like a super star some people claimed she is Lebanese but she never stayed long enough till I make up my mind and finish my club full scanning "iam always hesitant" :)

Anyway we run into a couple of tall girls who claimed to be from ukraine and they wanted to 2000 each besides it was way too expensive we didn't like their cold attitude.

My friend got into a chat with a very hyper full of energy young morrocan and she quoted him 2500. After some laughs she accepted 1200 and they both left for his hotel.

I was only looking for an arab this night although I saw a pearl from Ukraine who was nothing but a princess and she also asked for 1500, I think I would have closed it on 1000.

I met a Jordanian who was a sweet talker, killer body asked for 1500 till 7 am but we closed on 1000 + taxi, had a nice chat on the way had a feeling we know each from ages. Good attitude, however she was trying to waste time as much as possible, has shower, no actions, and moved to bed, typical arab passive attitude, you need to do all work besides lots of fake sounds. Lots of sms before, during and after action! One time and no mood for anymore. And sent home by 6 am.

Compared to CIS girls, was not as much fun except maybe for the arabic language privilege. Repeat (No)

For the morrocan, My friend had a blast and he would repeat.

[QUOTE=Letto;1290770]Anyone in my age group ( 25-40) who wants to party around?[/QUOTE]Hit any of the clubs frequently mentioned here and you'll find plenty of [i]friends[/i] wanting to party. :)

[QUOTE=WolvinDubai;1290877]The harassment at York wasn't bad enough to where it warranted a manager, I think it was more of a first and second time in the environment can be a little overwhelming for a relative newbie like myself where as if you go to a place that's primarily CIS, PRC type you basically have to show interest in the girl and talk to her.[/QUOTE]Understand. But[list][*]It makes your visit less enjoyable, having to fend off UNWANTED attention. For me, the grabbing is just plain disrespectful, and I never put up with it.

[*]You only have 1 landing gate, and if it's occupied with an unwanted [i]aircraft[/i], all the others must circle, waiting for it to open. No girl will cut in on another (99%) as they don't want to have problems with [i]officemates[/i]. That's how fights start, and girls who cause problems get banned. So I always wanted [i]open[/i] space around me.[/list]
I never had to actually speak to a manager about a girl, but once or twice, did have to ask a waitress to have him come over. By the time he arrived, she was gone, but just allowed me to say hi and say how much I enjoyed the club. After all, you are there to enjoy yourself.

Certainly a girl will appreciate extra money, and I also found that they appreciated just being treated decently, as a person, allowing them to relax and feel safe for a few hours. As you found out, if you want the GFE, treat her nice.

Good luck, and just remember the "secret service" lesson (if applicable). Moral turpitude, and breaking a country's laws (pros*I*ution is illegal in UAE) can be grounds for termination.

[QUOTE=WolvinDubai; 1290608]. Looks overall about a 7. She was from Turkmenistan. Had great service, BBBJ was fantastic. Exchanged numbers and met a few more times over that week. Last night I was there back in March actually went BB with her. I know, not the smartest thing. Proceeded to get tested back at my base in Kabul and all clear. We texted all of April and planned to meet up when I was back in May for a couple days before going back home on R&R.

Seems she has all sorts of problems with Visa, owed people money, etc. I have no problem paying a bit more than what the going rate is reading these forums but anything more and well thats where my ATM stops. Come to find out for new visa, paying people back, etc she's in for 15000 AED. Yea, sorry, not helping anyone out that much, that's a nice chunk of change and while I'm making good money in Afghanistan, that's to set myself up for a better financial future. It's one thing to tap into play money a couple hundred more than you intend to spend but when it comes to that amount, there's nothing more I'm willing to do.

I pretty much told her that as well. However don't most of these WGs have day time jobs have you in the malls, or other various service industry jobs that basically don't pay jack but provide a Visa sponsorship? From what I can tell she doesn't have a day time job and doesn't enjoy the club scene anymore either. I'm sure she has other customers but they aren't paying what I'm paying (ok ok I give her 1500 I know WAY too much) but the service is at least complete GFE as I think she is comfortable with me. She actually agreed to be tested when I was here in May to make sure she was still clean before we had fun last month. Well I'm back in Dubai again before returning to Afghanistan. She flies back to Turkmenistan next week so I suppose I'll see her one more time.[/QUOTE]An instructive FR. Many of the girls are looking for a Prince Charming. It's clear from your post that you ain't him. You have a commercial relationship. You pay well at dh1500 per night and you receive excellent GFE service in return. The dh1500 is also your payment for her to leave.

Went to Buddha Bar last night. Maybe I got there too early. Around 10pm because it seemed like most people were still there for dinner. The bar area seating was full but wasn't sure who or who wasn't WG. Did see quite a bit of talent walking around outside of the GH. Went up to Bar 44. Empty, maybe a handful of people. Did see a table of 3 girls one of which was the hottest blonde I've ever seen. Didn't approach her and she wasn't moving, so no clue if she was a WG or not. Decided to go to Premiere. Good lord that was a long cab ride from GH. Turns out I had been to Premiere once before and couldn't stand the smoke, eyes were burning so much I left empty handed.

Quite a bit of talent, unfortunately at the time the spot I decided to stand by to scope out the scene was right next to a small blonde spinner who started chatting me up. You standing here for me she says. I wanted to say not really but I obliged. Turns out she's from Ukraine. In the darkness of the club didn't really look any better than a 7, best thing she had going for her in my eyes was she was short and had an athletic build (think gymnast / track sprinter body). Can't remember her name, started with an A. Anyways, smoke started getting to me, and little head took over, oops. Left with her for 800. Night got better from there though, first she had her own car. Saved money on cab fare going back to my hotel in Media City! Once we got back to room, her english was pretty good, and the body was smoking, this girl wasn't more than 5'1 and maybe 95-100lbs, not an ounce of fat, what followed could only be like a PSE. Girl had one of the tightest bodies I've ever seen, if your a breast man she's no good, perky As that were firm. Just depends on your taste but this girl was hot. I will probably repeat before returning to Afghanistan mid-week. Would like to find a spot closer to Media City, I remember seeing the Fairmont on the way back last night that wasn't quite as far. May check out CinCin and see how it is.

I'll be coming through Dubai just before Ramadan starts. In other places any crack down on moral issues does not start until Ramadan actually starts.

Is this the same as in Dubai or can we expect a slowdown in the fun starting a few days before Ramadan?

I guess I will find out, I am going to be there through Ramadan. The forums here pretty much say the action continues during Ramadan, just muted. Less loud music, no go go dancers at Red Square for example. I suspect lots of talent leaves town but then again, a lot stays. Less traffic for them though, may be a time for better than usual pricing! Or so I hope!

[QUOTE=Kabul Guy; 1291191]I'll be coming through Dubai just before Ramadan starts. In other places any crack down on moral issues does not start until Ramadan actually starts.

Is this the same as in Dubai or can we expect a slowdown in the fun starting a few days before Ramadan?[/QUOTE]

HI, long time since my last contribute here, as I was away from the action from sometime.

Also I should give many thanks to senior members (Like Bravo11) who never stop give hands to others.

I had a bad luck yesterday, as I prepared and went to red square (for my first time) , I normally used to go to the golden triangle before.

I was there around 10. 30, and the place was not crowded, and by the time girls started to coming, nice collection, but the real pretty are not so much (according to my opinion.

Then also men starting to come to the club, by 12 o'clock it was very crowded. Although it was a Saturday night- and also there were alot of Saudi guys.

The nice thing I was alone, and I introduced to an Iranian guy who was fishing like me, we spend the time talking, and kidding with the girls.

We waited till the end of the night to prices to come down, as I was hearing something like 2000 for LT from super girls.

We did so and wait, but the point is I'm working here in Dubai, and has my flat, and all of them is refusing to go to my flat, all of them wants only hotels.

I tried chatting with so many girls and waiting for the chemistry. As per the senior members- but all of them claiming for hotels.

I faced that in some clubs that some ladies asking for hotel only, but this my first time that all the ladies is only going to hotels.

At 2. 30 I left to York, and found no fishes (all the good ones already left) , So I headed to Regal (it was already 3. 0am) and I checked the coffee shop in the ground floor, but all the girls were old or ugly or low slandered.

Then I admit it wasn't my night, and I'm planing to check Regal after few coming days.

Best Regards,

[QUOTE=Dbates80;1291349]I guess I will find out, I am going to be there through Ramadan. The forums here pretty much say the action continues during Ramadan, just muted. Less loud music, no go go dancers at Red Square for example. I suspect lots of talent leaves town but then again, a lot stays. Less traffic for them though, may be a time for better than usual pricing! Or so I hope![/QUOTE]I was in Dubai during Ramadan last year. The action was still a plenty, but the places were quieter and less guys. One bartender told me that the hotel won't let any Muslims into the club during Ramadan.