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I agree on the smoke. It is a real pity. Making me leave the Artemis lounge a million times in the past to just hang by that staircase or downstairs or in the boring cinemas. Don't feel it is close to as big of a problem in sharks with that high ceiling, but a club like Oceans does do it right by banning it indoors. I just wish all my favourites at Oceans had stopped smoking too, so I wouldnt have to sometimes go looking for them out in the freeze outside when it is not summer...
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1964900]This weekend the management organized a long meeting with all the girls in which the boss announced that Sharks was elected as the best FKK in Germany by the famous internet site. Who elected? ISG?[/QUOTE]Which famous internet website? Or is it just a strategy to make girls stay and pay entry? 100 girls paying 100/120, make 10/12 thousands per day, nearly 4 millions per year. Just arithmetic, or truth?
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1964974]the constant high level of noise (music and television) everywhere in the club that adds to the tiring effects. BTW, some people call that "wellness".[/QUOTE]I love Sharks because of combination of few things.
Its club like atmosphere. Good spa facilities and delicious meals and the most important thing for me, the girls and their excellent behavior.
This place is fantastic and has everything that I love in one spot. Free smoking every where, loud club music, naked horny girls.
I have to add that when I'm at Sharks I'm there to party and not there only for the relaxation in wellness area.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1965018]Which famous internet website? Or is it just a strategy to make girls stay and pay entry? 100 girls paying 100/120, make 10/12 thousands per day, nearly 4 millions per year. Just arithmetic, or truth?[/QUOTE]When you have far too many girls, it is necessary to discourage them, especially the waste of space girls.
Charging them a lot is one way. How to attract the hot girls and keep out the undoable ones? Tricky thing.
Seems that mostly undoable ones are showing up in Sunday daytime. Must be 90% of customers on Sunday morning are also a waste of space. They pay money then socialise and no fuck.
I prefer a nice fuck before breakfast but hard to achieve if the talent is low. Barring the odd exception, the best girls do not show Sunday morning any more, as they know the place is swamped with locals who do not want to fuck. LOL Could be the talent is too poor so the locals can wait and wait till evening.
Its a chicken and egg situation. Which went bad first? The line up or the customers. I pretty much gave up on Sundays and heard that Wednesday has become diabolical too. Thursday and Friday look good. Saturday a bit weaker line up I think.
[QUOTE=Iranian;1965064]I love Sharks because of combination of few things.
Its club like atmosphere. Good spa facilities and delicious meals and the most important thing for me, the girls and their excellent behavior.
This place is fantastic and has everything that I love in one spot. Free smoking every where, loud club music, naked horny girls.
I have to add that when I'm at Sharks I'm there to party and not there only for the relaxation in wellness area.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, but the fact someone like you writes this (also given your user name), is the reason regular clubbers don't rate the current Sharks situation that much. Personally I've been with a few dozen of the girls currently at Sharks. The only ones I would really rate as "great" are Mia, Moira and Erica. And none of those are in my top 5 at the moment or anything.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965091]When you have far too many girls, it is necessary to discourage them, especially the waste of space girls.
Charging them a lot is one way. How to attract the hot girls and keep out the undoable ones? Tricky thing.
Seems that mostly undoable ones are showing up in Sunday daytime. Must be 90% of customers on Sunday morning are also a waste of space. They pay money then socialise and no fuck.
I prefer a nice fuck before breakfast but hard to achieve if the talent is low.[/QUOTE]About same rate for girls at Sharks or Oase, 100/110/120, no selection for beauty in both, not Globe, the more girls, the more money for clubs, a girl worth 2 guys for entry.
When I enjoyed casting, I always enjoyed my Sundays at Sharks. It was often my third FKK day, after waking up at 5 am on Friday to make money, before driving 5 hours after work for a FKK Friday night until 4 or 5 am, a FKK Saturday from noon until 5 am and when I arrived early at Sharks on Sunday after driving in the night, as long I went with her, angel Sandra went to me smiling, and after the prettiest girl also went, smiling, with her blue eyes, so, even I m not an early guy and didn't sleep for 2 days, I couldn't resist to her beauty in day light, even was often tired so early. Then, on the afternoon, I often slept, standing up and eyes opened, like horses, and had a good second room in the evening when locals went home. Never had problem to have my girls on a Sunday and many good rooms with good girls on Sunday at this time.
For my last visits, Sharks and Oase castings are on same average level, quantity is not quality, but breakfast is better now at Oase, with bacon, strawberries and pancakes.
I was there for a few hours on a recent Sunday and witnessed the dilution of visual talent due to the influx of new girls. It was pretty unspectacular for Sharks standards. I did not see many familiar faces that are usually there on Sundays. I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.[/QUOTE]That's got to be pretty bad if they are not cutting it in Oase or Palace. I was wondering why there aren't so much mention of any new visual and / or service stars with such influx (high number) of girls being mentioned.
So, majority of the influx are from the nearby clubs? Did Sharks suck up some girls for the time being, and for what reason has this come about?
There has been mention of Oase business been down, and recent changes with food and discount entry is reaction of that likely.
For Palace, if there is no Messe, does the place even get that much business? Or has Messe crowds shifting more toward Sharks now a days?
What makes no sense is that there were mention of not whole lot of men for such influx of girls, but why would girls migrate to Sharks from other clubs? They must be migrating thinking Sharks would be a better bet than where they were coming from. That makes me think that other Hessen clubs are hitting slow times, and Sharks maybe doing decent business, but with girls migrating, they're going to face competition with such a high influx of girls.
So, with the big 5, there will always be competition, but seems the clubs are not at a stable state. Sharks became a magnet of some sort.
Also, with the entry fees and so high ratio of girls to men, why is the club being influxed with girls? Don't they know that more competition for them means, more divided earnings(and decreases the number of potential clients per girl)? Perhaps it's was just a temporary swell that happened simultanely for short duration, and mellow down as the girls realize the earning potentials.
Has has the graph of influx of girls per time looking? Has it leveled down now? If it did, how long did the swell last? Still going on, and is there specific days of the week this occurs to full extreme?
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
[/QUOTE]So you are saying a percentage of girls will take time off a head of time and come back for the holiday incentives? Has this happened in the past? During what times has this happened and approximately what percentage of the LU?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965165]That's got to be pretty bad if they are not cutting it in Oase or Palace. I was wondering why there aren't so much mention of any new visual and / or service stars with such influx (high number) of girls being mentioned.
So, majority of the influx are from the nearby clubs? Did Sharks suck up some girls for the time being, and for what reason has this come about?
[/QUOTE]From the Sharks mgt pov all they care about is the increase in revenue / bottom line. At some point its going to backlash bc of reputational risk by taking in all the girls that lack optic and provide mediocre service e. G. New Nastia girl, LOL.
Unless Sharks can survive on the tourists alone in the long haul revenue will likely decline as locals search for better deals. Even tourists might do so especially with the new law next yr.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1965176]From the Sharks mgt pov all they care about is the increase in revenue / bottom line.[/QUOTE]Any business is looking to profit as much as they can. When there are motivators like competitions, they will try to out-do each or in some respects to draw in more customers.
So, food wasn't really all that important back in the days or early days when there were the 1 club around with no competition. Along comes a new club that opens up. Facilities are new and better, and they offer food, buffet in the entry, but still the food quality is not good. Along comes another club, and this time, they club tries to out-do the prior clubs with better food, pool, etc. Etc. Hence the evolution. Not at the point where the food is a regular thing, and quality is better.
Businesses can try to pull in better profit by volume instead of high pricing (this happens when there are competitions to beat them), and they can make higher profits on margin, and also lower the competitors revenue. Turkish clubs at the NRW that offers low entry are good examples of this. Why this works well for those clubs is that there is a large market of the Turkish clients that is looking for a pricepoint, and once it's hit, they will get a big volume of the clients.
200+ girls coming in is still revenue so, that also works in the club's favor in revenue with quantity of of clients at a steady count.
I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are. In the case of Oceans, their results show they went in blindly then knowing the market (environment, competitions, clientel types). Some are better at it than others.
All this depends on scenarios. Management styles are different. Some clubs strive for regular clientel as they are the potential targets that works best for them. A club trying to gain more regulars to tourists will tend to have better service levels. Mangement being more involved in club activities, etc.
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200+ girls coming in is still revenue so, that also works in the club's favor in revenue with quantity of of clients at a steady count.
I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are. In the case of Oceans, their results show they went in blindly then knowing the market (environment, competitions, clientel types). Some are better at it than others.
All this depends on scenarios. Management styles are different. Some clubs strive for regular clientel as they are the potential targets that works best for them. A club trying to gain more regulars to tourists will tend to have better service levels. Mangement being more involved in club activities, etc.[/QUOTE]Quality control on the service level provided by new gals otherwise its going to affect the long term standard. Locals can always stick to her favs but for most I assume it gets boring going with the same girl over and over. These will likely look somewhere else which might cause fewer visitors or they might not be affected as the only attend when its cheap entry to eat, sleep, touch gals for free, LOL.
If biz slows down I. E. Less visitors then sooner or later less girls will attend as well (self reinforcing cycle). Under normal conditions the market will adjust I. E. Those gals that provide bad service wud go belly up and leave the market but bc of the tourists the self correcting market mechanism isn't working properly.
I just know that I will bring my biz where I get the most value, LOL.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]I was there for a few hours on a recent Sunday and witnessed the dilution of visual talent due to the influx of new girls. It was pretty unspectacular for Sharks standards. I did not see many familiar faces that are usually there on Sundays. I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.[/QUOTE]Most of good business girls prefer to return to their family for Christmas and New Year and they are right to enjoy a bit their private life after so difficult job, so, even free entry, should make stay mostly second ranking girls looking for new business, with a gay Sylvester party, good for guys who like so much to speak about other guys.
Sundays had quite good castings until this Summer. Had top level Roberta. Ro, classy Ilka, in July and tornado Leila in end of August.
Really seem, club try to make maximum money with as many as possible girls entry. How many are attractive and good skill?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965204]I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are.[/QUOTE]For sure they can't compete with your type of smartness.
On the other hand they are smart enough to feel and understand your urgent needs. They attract minds like you and take your money, allowing you to enter into your world of desires.
Tourists allow too many girls to get away with Lip kissing or LFK where the locals won't stand for it at all? Is that right?
This is why we see a decline in Service. Tourists find the ordinary service to be great. The locals do not.
We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do. I too have met the lip kissing girls only. Gave up Sascha for example who was always jerking away supposedly certain I was going to try to put the tongue in. Actually I am a nice guy. I never force girls to do what they are not comfortable with. I move so slowly, escape is easy without jerking.
A so called name and shame list. I am sure the well known super girls must be giving good DFK, or can girls be very popular without it?
Being a 1 hour customer I don't know who DFK kisses for 50.
So I am a very tongue oriented person. Lip kissing is not going to get me as a regular. I clean the tongue carefully. Its much easier to take than a big dick.