American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2783531]

[b]Derangement and Mental Illness[/b]

No, Trump did not ban all flights from China and no, his 2020 Dem opponent did not call him "racist" for something he didn't do.

Now, since you, "good point" Tiny and other wingers are so concerned about future studies on certain kinds of mental illness, you will be happy, perhaps extraordinarily inappropriately happy, to learn the kind exhibited by you, detachment from reality, hallucinations, imagining things were done and said that were never done or said, etc has already been fully studied and noted:

[B]deranged[/B]

[URL]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deranged[/URL]

[B]Mental illness[/B]

[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/symptoms-causes/syc-20374968[/URL][/QUOTE]Deranged? Mentally ill? OK buddy boy, I'm taking the gloves off.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2783617]Yes. Next.[/QUOTE]I have an upset stomach and every time I sat down on the can the last couple of days, I've been reading about restrictions on flights from China to the USA. And my conclusion is that Tooms and PVMonger don't know what they're talking about. I've got a lot going on at work, but I shall return soon. And we shall kick some blue ass, Brother Chris. There will be cyberblood!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2783836]Deranged? Mentally ill? OK buddy boy, I'm taking the gloves off.

I have an upset stomach and every time I sat down on the can the last couple of days, I've been reading about restrictions on flights from China to the USA. And my conclusion is that Tooms and PVMonger don't know what they're talking about. I've got a lot going on at work, but I shall return soon. And we shall kick some blue ass, Brother Chris. There will be cyberblood![/QUOTE]Since you have determined the I don't know what I'm talking about, why don't [B]you[/B] come to Chrissie's defense and show some links that show that Donnie the Dumbass "banned" [B]all[/B] flights from China to the USA and / or that he "banned" [B]all[/B] Chinese from entering the US. Also try to post some links that disprove that SARS-CoV-2 was already present in the US by the time Donnie the Dumbass issued his so-called "ban".

I'll wait.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2783836]I've got a lot going on at work, but I shall return soon. And we shall kick some blue ass, Brother Chris. [/QUOTE]Buddying up with Chris? Your stock just went way down.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2783351]
Donnie the Dumbass banned flights from mainland China but did not ban flights from Macau or Hong Kong. Only Repubs would be stupid enough to believe that somebody from, say, Hong Kong, would not have visited relatives in Wuhan before flying to the US from Hong Kong. Only Repubs would be stupid enough to assume that nobody in Hong Kong had visitors from Wuhan before flying to the US.[/QUOTE]Actually, the Chinese data shows that the virus did not spread much. In fact, there were very few cases outside of Wuhan per Chinese data. Normally, I would be suspicious of this but the truth is that China evaded Covid for a long time so I suspect this data was accurate. So your contention that Covid was present in Hong Kong and Macau is way off from what the data shows.

But the real issue with me is the fucking hypocrisy. When Colombia shut down all air travel to its country, I fought about how stupid that was and how harmful it was, and I had these Democratic douches arguing with me every step of the way. There were so many Colombians who were thrown off the job, and they were locked in save for one hour a week to buy groceries as the whole nation was shut down. I gifted money to some Colombian women then experimenting with giving gifts during a period of extreme crisis. I wondered if the gift giving would result in increased gratitude or increased greed, and I got a 50-50 response. But I will say said generosity opened the door to a true 10 and a beauty queen, a literal Miss Cartagena.

And yes, if not for the Democratic douche response to Covid, I would not have met my current woman. I will ask this PVM, seeing as how I keep cashing in on your Democratic stupidity / douchery, does that make me smart or a "moron"?

So yeah, Trump bans travel from China, and it did not work, but you know what is smart? Colombia and Peru shutting off all travel per you Dems. Lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and all the bureaucratic bullshit we have had to endure for years was smart too per you Dems.

And you cannot compare Peru and Sweden I was told. Peru went hard core with Covid, and Sweden treated it with kid gloves and Peru had a much higher death rate. No, you were only allowed to compare Sweden to countries with a lower death rate, a principle Democrats tried to claim was scientific not political. The real question is which model won out in the end?

And for all your belly aching about Trump, I have two questions and the answers. What country was spared from Covid? None. Which president had more cases and deaths under their watch, Biden or Trump? Of course, it was Biden.

This of course is the epitome of Democratic douchery. There is not one speck of credible evidence to say Trump was responsible for the pandemic but you douches keep blaming him for it. In the mean time, the parties truly responsible for the virus, China and a few scum bags in the American bureaucracy, get off scot free.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2783833]Damn, I would have loved to have had one of those when I was a kid!

What's the big deal? It's a .22 rifle with a 5 round magazine that looks cool. And it has a special patented "tamper resistant safety", designed so that a kid can't fire the gun unless an adult is around to release the safety.

These guns are not preparing right-wing children to become mass murderers. That's ridiculous. Rather they're preparing them to become right-wing American soldiers, so Democratic Presidents can ship them off to die in foreign countries, just like they've done for the last 100 some odd years. Young men from rural America are disproportionately blown away in wars, while children of elite urban and suburban Democrats sit out wars behind desks and in college.

I would dare say that a right-wing young adult who grew up around hunting rifles has a better chance of surviving combat than one who didn't.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, look at this data: [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/[/URL].

For all the bullshit about rifles, they kill very few people in comparison to handguns or knives.

It is the last one that has gotten me as I have talked to an ER nurse who says they have seen an explosion of stabbings in recent months, and you can guess as to why IMO. Can the police freak out on someone with a knife like they can a gun?

It is pretty obvious the crackdown on rifles is not for public safety based on the data but government safety.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2783759][b]Burgers and Bullets.[/b] Anybody remember the 12 year old girl that offed her firearms instructor with an Uzi? As the Secretary of Offense Rumsfeld who conquered
I Rock might say "the 2nd is messy" But let's argue about semantics with the resident language experts. [/QUOTE]"Burgers and Bullets", very apt. Donno, perhaps your example, is KARMA at work?

Although, I can't say that I remember this case, I guess, "kiddy gun rage" is perhaps the latest thing in gun violence, that the "death dealers", are now catering towards.

So far this year 2023 in the US, there have been 42 mass murders, as of Jan 24th. Just Staggering!!

[QUOTE=GDreams;2783611]I made no comment about China. I was just correcting your definition of TDS. I was pointing out that the vast majority of rioter who were so wound up to protest on Jan 6 suddlenly became very apologetic when 1. They got held to account and 2. Donny provided no support to them whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Would you have preferred if Trump had cheered them on, as Kamala Harris did to the far more violent, widespread and long-lasting leftist riots of 2020?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2783531]No, Trump did not ban all flights from China and no, his 2020 Dem opponent did not call him "racist" for something he didn't do.[/QUOTE]I didn't say Trump banned all flights from China. There were many American citizens and green card holders in China whom he had no right to ban from returning home. (Can you imagine the frothing, unhinged meltdown of the democrats, the fake news media, and the leftist judiciary if he had tried to ban Americans from reaching their own country?) However, he did ban non-citizens and non-residents from flying from China, which greatly reduced numbers and reduced the early spread of the virus.

The ban was made official on January 31st. Later the same day, Biden made a speech accusing Trump of "hysterical xenophobia", and he repeated the line in a tweet the following day.

The democrats wanted completely open travel from China. The fact that you leftists now try to rewrite history is testament to how far you have strayed from empirical, factual reality. Men are women. Biden is mentally competent. The BLM / antifa riots were "fiery but peaceful". The border is secure. Mass mail-in voting is the most secure form of election. The democrats supported the China travel ban.

No wonder you had to create the phrase "my truth" instead of "the truth".

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2783229]So who has the most to win? Kamala Harris? Pete Buttigieg? Nah. My money says it was a protege of Tooms' hero, Elizabeth Warren.

[B]Most influential voice: Warrens network spreads throughout Biden administration[/B]

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/15/elizabeth-warren-aides-biden-administration-475653[/URL]

She's thoroughly infiltrated the Biden Administration. And if she'll stab your man Bernie in the back, and she did, we damn well know she'll go after Biden. But Pocahontas wised up. That episode with Bernie didn't work out so well. So undoubtedly she's working in the shadows now.

If you think Biden is bad, just wait until we have a government run by Elizabeth Warren.[/QUOTE]The democrat-media-Wall St-military industrial deep state are realising that Biden is just too far gone mentally, and too unpopular, to try to drag him over the line in 2024 even with vast mail-in ballot fraud. That's why they are finally starting to acknowledge his corruption. Once they start talking about Tara Reade, inappropriate showers with 13 year olds, and hair sniffing, you'll know for sure they want him out.

Covid restrictions have been lifted so the 2024 candidate will need to be out and about on the campaign trail, not hiding in his basement reading autocues. Kamala is just too stupid and incompetent, not to mention unlikeable and a literal ho, and America won't elect an open sodomite like Buttigieg. (Buttigieg the South Bender. LOL).

But I don't think they'll try and parachute in Pocahontas. She's too old and too goofy. More likely it will be Gavin Newsom, who at least looks the part despite accelerating the ruin of the formerly great state of California. You can just imagine all the soft-pedal swoony fake news with lots of grinning. They'll be going hard for the single fat ageing SSRI catlady vote.

Alternatively they might try to get Michelle Obama in there. The fake news has spent years hiding her grifting angry black woman nature and trying to build her up into some kind of saintly figure. Any criticism of her during the campaign will be deemed "racist" and Big Tech / fake news will censor and cancel it.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2782078]Hey ChucoLoco, the Marquis is messing with you. He's playing bad cop to my good cop, in our struggle to save Democrats' souls.[/QUOTE]I daresay they were sold long ago.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2783959]Since you have determined the I don't know what I'm talking about, why don't [B]you[/B] come to Chrissie's defense and show some links that show that Donnie the Dumbass "banned" [B]all[/B] flights from China to the USA and / or that he "banned" [B]all[/B] Chinese from entering the US. Also try to post some links that disprove that SARS-CoV-2 was already present in the US by the time Donnie the Dumbass issued his so-called "ban".

I'll wait.[/QUOTE]None of them can produce such links, nor of Biden calling Trump a "racist" for it because they don't exist. They don't exist because those things never happened. Yet they agreed that merely saying things happened and were said that in fact never happened or were said was a "good point" to make in a discussion.

Repubs and pro Repub Bothsider / Neithersiders, LOL. What a luxury it must be to simply make stuff up and declare victory for it. Glad I never joined that club except for my one unfortunate flirtation with ill-informed idiotic Bothsiderism when I foolishly and forever regrettably voted for Reagan over Carter.

Reagan was the earliest incarnation of the Repubs' political success in producing horrific results under the guise of doing it just to "own the libs. " Oh, for sure Repubs were producing horrific results decades before Reagan. But it was with Reagan when they finally give up trying but failing to explain that it wasn't due to their repeatedly idiotic policies and that, hey look ma', they do it intentionally just for the hell of it and for the fun of producing horrific results for America in order to "own the libs".

Brilliant.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2783740]"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".[/QUOTE]Kinda like somebody who pretends not to know the difference between "anybody" and "everybody".

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2783351]
Of course, the whole thing was mute because COVID was already in the US...[/QUOTE]It's "moot", not "mute". Mute is what you should be (see above).

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2783836]
I have an upset stomach and every time I sat down on the can the last couple of days, I've been reading about restrictions on flights from China to the USA. And my conclusion is that Tooms and PVMonger don't know what they're talking about. I've got a lot going on at work, but I shall return soon. And we shall kick some blue ass, Brother Chris. There will be cyberblood![/QUOTE]You are a scholar and a gentleman, sir.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2783959]Since you have determined the I don't know what I'm talking about, why don't [B]you[/B] come to Chrissie's defense and show some links that show that Donnie the Dumbass "banned" [B]all[/B] flights from China to the USA and / or that he "banned" [B]all[/B] Chinese from entering the US. Also try to post some links that disprove that SARS-CoV-2 was already present in the US by the time Donnie the Dumbass issued his so-called "ban".
[/QUOTE]Stop strawmanning. You've already taken a huge and humiliating L on this. Why keep drawing attention to it?

I didn't say Trump banned all flights from China. There were many US citizens and legal residents there. Can you imagine the hysterical meltdown from the democrat / fake news / leftist judiciary / alphabet agency deep state if he had blocked Americans from returning home? Of course he would not do that.

What he did was ban non-citizens and non-residents from flying to America from the country at the centre of outbreak. There is no doubt that this saved many lives by lessening the initial speed of the spread of the virus, and buying America time to prepare for it.

There is also no doubt that, after the ban became official on January 31st, Biden made a speech later that day calling it "hysterical xenophobia", an allegation he repeated in a tweet the following day.

This is becoming painful to watch even for someone like me who enjoys exposing leftist hypocrisy, wrongheadedness and cognitive dissonance. Please, for the sake of your own mental health, just accept the loss and move on.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2784034]
So far this year 2023 in the US, there have been 42 mass murders, as of Jan 24th. Just Staggering!![/QUOTE]Really? How many of them were carried out with handguns, not AR-15's, in (ahem) democrat-voting urban ghettos?

Why do democrats and fake news endlessly rant about AR-15's owned by white people, when the majority of shootings are carried out with handguns by non-white people?