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[QUOTE=Doppel One;1356939]Last month I saw far less excessive money venting in AC than on previous trips. In just under two months I didn't see a single soul 'ring the bell' and I only experienced people showering the girls with 20 piso notes in the big Korean oriented bars such as Atlantis and Baby Dolls. I took it as a sign of the times and perhaps even the Koreans are thinking twice before pointlessly disgorging themselves of 2/4000 to buy a line of dancers some dubious looking liquor and a rousing chorus of 'cheers'. I[/QUOTE]I was there for a period of about 4 weeks total in the past 2 months. I just wanted to say that I think you probably just missed seeing the big spenders. On at least three occasions, I saw guys who had specifically asked for buckets of balls to be brought to their table at 300-400 pesos per bucket. This one guy had like 10 buckets surrounding his table. He would occasionally dump one every couple of minutes while the girls stopped dancing and eagerly eyed him while they chanted,"More, more, more." (or something to that effect). I also saw punters throwing bills onto the stage on a couple of occasions as well, and guys who bought a table full of waitresses lady-drinks. However, on a side note, I saw fewer guys ringing the bell. But overall, I personally didn't feel that visitors to AC were becoming more tight-fisted in parting with their cash.

Just to let you in on the real scoop. There is a minumum wage in US it does not include waitresses and those type of work opportunities. They gets tips so they lower the wage rate. Most waitresses and others like it get around 3. 00 an hour for their salary. If you don't want to tip don't do it. I can't believe someone is discussing a tip before service is rendered. But I am sure there are some.

Easy Breezy with an arrival in Manila via Eva Air flight that was about 1/4 full, facilitating stretched-across-4-seats snoozing. Encountered none of the problems re carry-on that have been discussed here and saw many people with carry-ons slightly smaller than steamer trunks. Although I did not have an on-going or return flight, encountered no problem with immigration although check-in with Eva Air asked about it. My work around was a reply that I had an ongoing flight that I had not yet printed.

Slid through Manila terminal like shit through a goose and tapped an ATM located left of the customs exit. Was met by an Angeles City / Margaritaville pre-arranged driver who had cold beer and helped me secure a SIM card at a 7/11 stop enroute. At 2600 pesos, was more expensive than bus and other public transport but worth it to me for a hassle free arrival.

Arrived Angeles after a 2 hour and 3 beer trip to check into DM Residente hotel. Had queried here for info previously and received mixed reviews. Personally, have found it to be acceptable as a basic place to shit / shower / shave and shag. I had also questioned the board re hotel provided massage with extras but did not use this service. On the 5 minute walk to Fields / Walking Street I saw numerous massage places but did not enter any. Instead, I wandered Fields, had a bite to eat, surveyed talent at a couple joints and hit a grocery store to stock my refrigerator. On walk back to hotel, an 80 pound munchkin offered suck / fuck for 500P S / T. Couldn't resist the bargain that stretched into 2 days of intermittent bag draining and me catching up on sleep to reset my internal clock. Total damages for the munchkin=2k P plus offer to accompany me on a planned jaunt to N Luzon.

Don't worry Tippers are here to stay. And will always be here.

I tip. I tip the waitress. No less than 40p a $1 USD. A 100p if paying for more than 2 drinks.

Every girl that comes to my room leaves with a tip from 200 to 1000 and ALWAYS 100p for trike fare. So they don't have to brake into the tip money for trike fare.

I buy LD's and love to have minimum 3 girls around the table when I drink. 2 massaging each side and 1 for beauty and leads the conversation / laughs.

In the past, I was a bit more conservative with my money. But as time has passed, my attitude has changed.

I look at it like this. There are very few things I fly around the world to another country to specifically do. Therefore I have to rate the Pleasure accordingly.

There is NOTHING that I fly out of the country to do that is as inexpensive on a hour by hour basis. 2000p BF, over night about 10 hrs. Means 200p an hr. So you are getting a woman to please youatroughly $5 USD an hour.

I don't know another place in the [B]WORLD[/B] A man can go and spend the [B]ENTIRE[/B] Night with a 18 to 20's yr old [B]ENGLISH[/B] Speaking woman. For under $100 USD. Sure you can find the OCCASIONAL girl that might speak a tiny bit of english in some other places. But. Not an abundance like the PI

Therefore in my opinion. If I pay 1800 to 2000p for a BF. If she stays the night and I bust even one nut period. Any kind of way, under any circumstances. She deserves a tip. Starting at 200 and the amount goes up from there based upon going above and beyond that.

Secondly. I find that I have no problem with girls. Wanting to leave, trying to leave, asking to leave. More often my biggest problem is getting them to leave.

And of course I get the royal treatment once I step back in the bar.

Now it may not be your style but its mine. And Fuck if I care if the prices go up. I'm making memories now. Things always change.

This game is about Living for today. Let tomorrow take care of itself.

[QUOTE=YG365; 1357009]What's minimum wage now days? $7? $8? I feel waiters / waitress shouldn't make more then 80-90% professions. It's insane when a waiter is making more then $15 an hour including tips which they probably don't report to the IRS. If you got an issue with this, why not go to school, finish a degree in something useful and actually find a good job that doesn't rely on tips?

In fact, now that I think about it. I'm done tipping! LOL.

YG[/QUOTE]Wait staff does perform a useful service, much more than say speculators and other assorted financial parasites who "went to school." If you don't think so, maybe you'll go to the kitchen and get your own food next time you're in a restaurant.

$13 an hour part time work is less than a living wage (minimum is $15) in the United States, and probably 90% of wait staff across the country makes less than that.

[QUOTE=LeknomForMe; 1357092]I agree and would also like to put this all into perspective.

Tickets are cheap, staying there is cheap, fucking there is ludicrously cheap, eating there is cheap, why do we also have to be cheap? Please explain this to me because I'm trying to understand this nickle and dime attitude.

First of all check the damn extra bag and pay the $25. 00 its damn cheap airfreight and lets the already struggling airlines make a few more dollars. We need them as much as they need us and if they arent making money they just go away and the ticket prices of the now competition free airlines just go up more then the extra bag cost.

Sorry for the rant but just saying.

Happy cheap pooning. Leknomforme[/QUOTE]Rates are artificial inflated by 5 day millionaires who never come back. That's the problem.

And no, I don't think tickets are cheap. What used to cost $700 from the Eastern US to Manila is now more like 1500 most times. Hotels either. $25-30 for absolute dumps and $100 for places like Lewis Grand that would probably cost half that in a similar area in the US. Don't get me started on 500 meter $3 trike rides.

But yea, keep saving up all year so you can waste a ton of money for one week. Seems like a logical plan and has the added benefit of making prices go up for regular visitors.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1357232]I find that I have no problem with girls. Wanting to leave, trying to leave, asking to leave. More often my biggest problem is getting them to leave.

And of course I get the royal treatment once I step back in the bar.[/QUOTE]Well said. Although we have all seen some guys that are just foolish and ostentatious with their spending habits, knowing how to use and leverage money well is an art form. To think that tipping at the right time and right amount for example or being generous when buying drinks for your girl and a couple of her friends does not have a positive effect is crazy and delusional. Why is it that most of the guys complaining about what another punter tips or doesn't tip are also the same guys complaining about how bad the scene has become and how shitty the girls' attitudes are. If you are happy with your game then stay on it. But if you are not getting good results then maybe you are trying too hard to hold some imaginary line in the sand. Loosen up and have a good time.

Sometimes I tip and sometimes I don't. It depends on the girl and how well she performs. But I always leave some change in the form of a tip for the waitress. There is a big return on that small investment Believe me. I have a few girls I been seeing for a long time. I treat them well in bed and out of bed. I am pretty generous. We never talk money. When I walk into a bar and I haven't seen the girl for 6 months or a year, she drops everything she is doing and whoever she is with to be with me. Give that up? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1357232]Now it may not be your style but its mine. And Fuck if I care if the prices go up. I'm making memories now. Things always change.

This game is about Living for today. Let tomorrow take care of itself.[/QUOTE]Well: Thanks!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1357232]Now it may not be your style but its mine. And Fuck if I care if the prices go up. I'm making memories now. Things always change.

This game is about Living for today. Let tomorrow take care of itself.[/QUOTE]Excellent post, very well said, fully supported! Can't agree more.

Enjoy!

Any effects from the typhoon on AC? Or is the typhoon too far south?

I'll be there in about 8 weeks.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1357232]Now it may not be your style but its mine. And Fuck if I care if the prices go up. I'm making memories now. Things always change.

This game is about Living for today. Let tomorrow take care of itself.[/QUOTE]The ones like you are the reason why I support not to post hidden gems anymore to the public. Let those "millionaires for a week" throw their money elsewhere.

[QUOTE=VaderBule; 1357361]Any effects from the typhoon on AC? Or is the typhoon too far south?

I'll be there in about 8 weeks.[/QUOTE]Typhoon was nowhere near AC.

Yes, it's far to the south. Over 500 miles / 800 km. I would guess that they got a little extra rain in AC, but I doubt that there is any lasting effect. A search for weather and Angeles city (or Manila) can give you some pretty detailed information. As for eight weeks into the future, you may have to think about the mid-Philippine Sea minstrals. They are rare, but dangerous.

[QUOTE=VaderBule; 1357361]Any effects from the typhoon on AC? Or is the typhoon too far south?

I'll be there in about 8 weeks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1357418]Yes, it's far to the south. Over 500 miles / 800 km. I would guess that they got a little extra rain in AC, but I doubt that there is any lasting effect. A search for weather and Angeles city (or Manila) can give you some pretty detailed information. As for eight weeks into the future, you may have to think about the mid-Philippine Sea minstrals. They are rare, but dangerous.[/QUOTE]Thanks xman. Wasn't sure how big that thing was, especially after that biggun that went up the US coast.

There's nothing like eyes on the ground. It's what makes this forum.

I read that some of you guys give numbers to the girls to call you later. Do you guys have international phones, do you buy a throw away phone, use Internet phone or what? Or will hotel allow me to accept local calls to my room. Any advice would be most welcomed.

Thanks in advance!