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Deja Vu scam?
[QUOTE=Blourghus] I was lured in by two hotties standing outside who happened to be equipped according to my specifications, and sat with them for a few rounds, getting ready to bar-fine them together, before they bothered to let me know they do not go with customers. Then they brought me a bill for like 3000 baht! I wasn't even drinking myself.
Found Spice Girls across the street to be pretty much the same deal.
Is there reason to go to these places or are they just full time tourist rip off operations?[/QUOTE]The two hotties are very likely coyote girls ( young, lively, hot, hot pants, usually with hats and boots on ). These are strictly dancers who will also sit with you to chit chat and some hugs but will never go boom boom with you. Lady drinks are pricey, 200 baht or so and they drink fast.
Spice Girls belong to the same stable, LOL. These girls are there to attract customers into the bar to drink and to intro them to b/f the regular girls. It is not exactly a rip off operation. Most regular punters know this.
Jeremy
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[QUOTE=Evianist]I don't agree with you. They don't have the numbers. Japan has lots of great sex clubs, so japanese men don't need to come to thailand to have fun. [/QUOTE]
Why are there lots of them mongering in Thailand then? Why is there a greater number of them in Nana and Cowboy compared to 3-4 years ago?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Why are there lots of them mongering in Thailand then? Why is there a greater number of them in Nana and Cowboy compared to 3-4 years ago?[/QUOTE]
One guess is that tour packages being offered in these countries to Thailand are very attractive. Along that line tour operators along with the driver are given incentives to bring bus loads of them to specific areas like Nana and Cowboy?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Why are there lots of them mongering in Thailand then? Why is there a greater number of them in Nana and Cowboy compared to 3-4 years ago?[/QUOTE]
If I am not mistaken, pussy is, on average, more expensive in Japan, even for Japanese!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Why are there lots of them mongering in Thailand then? Why is there a greater number of them in Nana and Cowboy compared to 3-4 years ago?[/QUOTE]Japan is a hurt right now. Providers are charging more, and delivering less. The cute ones in Japan go for comically astronomical & phenomenal amounts of money.
Middle age guys come to Thailand to play golf and get laid for less than 20% of what it costs at home. This is part of the reason they overtip, because it IS so cheap here, and because the providers are much more efficient at the GFE thing that many of the Japanese guys crave. Younger Japanese guys come here because they have dad's credit card and a license to party. Horny, daddy-rich, and totally full of themselves.
Lots of Japanese guys of all ages will go back to the same girl every night for the entire time they are in one specific location. The GFE gets better & better, and they know it. In general, this behavior is NOT available to them at a reasonable cost in Japan.
Word to the wise, stay out of Thermae, IMHO the place sucks anyway.
Also, fuck it, I have no problem whatsoever at Rainbow 4, none at all. I pulled two insane hotties out of there this last weekend and it was damn hard to get them out of my hotel suite the next afternoon! Man, there is just SO MUCH fine talent in there right now, and believe me, not all of them are sitting on their hands waiting for the Japanese!
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[QUOTE=Red Square]...
Where would you send a fresh Thailand mongerer for his first time in Bangkok?
Does Giotto work at Livingstone Hotel?
...[/QUOTE]Red Square,
Not sure whether I really "work" here :) ...
But I own the hotel. And many Bangkok rookies come here.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Goyave]If I am not mistaken, pussy is, on average, more expensive in Japan, even for Japanese![/QUOTE]
Yes, however what this implies is that the Japanese guys coming to Thailand are those looking for a more cost-effective screw than they can get in Japan. More of a middle class crowd than a hi-so crowd. Because the rich guys can afford to just stay in Tokyo for their fun.
[quote]Middle age guys come to Thailand to play golf and get laid for less than 20% of what it costs at home. This is part of the reason they overtip, because it IS so cheap here, and because the providers are much more efficient at the GFE thing that many of the Japanese guys crave. Younger Japanese guys come here because they have dad's credit card and a license to party. Horny, daddy-rich, and totally full of themselves.[/quote]
A standard escort in New York costs $300 for an hour. In BKK it's about $65, which makes it almost 20% of the cost for farangs too.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Yes, however what this implies is that the Japanese guys coming to Thailand are those looking for a more cost-effective screw than they can get in Japan. More of a middle class crowd than a hi-so crowd. Because the rich guys can afford to just stay in Tokyo for their fun.
A standard escort in New York costs $300 for an hour. In BKK it's about $65, which makes it almost 20% of the cost for farangs too.[/QUOTE]
Farang aren't only from America. Also, I believe escorts in Bkk are in the 4k-6k range?
If you're trying to compare american mongers with japanese mongers in Thailand, you should consider foreign currency exchange rates and plane tickets prices. Americans are at a disadvantage in both departments.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Farang aren't only from America. Also, I believe escorts in Bkk are in the 4k-6k range?
If you're trying to compare american mongers with japanese mongers in Thailand, you should consider foreign currency exchange rates and plane tickets prices. Americans are at a disadvantage in both departments.[/QUOTE]
The longer one stays in Thailand, and the more fucks, the cheaper the average price becomes (compared to back home) - even after including plane fares, currency exchange etc.
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Vegas style
[QUOTE=Evianist]A standard escort in New York costs $300 for an hour. In BKK it's about $65, which makes it almost 20% of the cost for farangs too.[/QUOTE]I live in Las Vegas and it makes me wonder why an American would travel so far and spend so much, when he can get a provider, legally, just 40 minutes outside of the city?
Well, the answer is the same reason I am going to BKK in feb. Its called GFE.
Actually, there is every kind of action you could think of in vegas and you probably will get away with it.
I prefer casino girls because I like the old wysiwyg way. No bait and switch games there. One method I have taken advantage of, that you can't do in just any city is, down and out women (especially from out of town) who gambled all their money away.
My airfare will be $1k alone. Todays going rate for a CG is about $200. So, that's about 5 providers with airfare alone. Why don't I just do the local fare?
There is something about being with someone from the motherland. Plus, there is something about spending so little, even though, you spent a group getting there.
I have been to the Philippines and other (lesser fun) countries and the whole mongering experience is just better in foreign lands. Providers don't ask for the fee until AFTER the deed, how many americans have gotten ripped off by the girl running off. I know a guy who gave a girl (sw) some money and she said meet me around the corner in 10 minutes-you know the ending.
This is my first visit to BKK, but from my research, it has the right attitude, let's all go out and party and have a good time, like we can't do in our own country.
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The most exciting thing to happen in Bangkok in the last few months is that finally McDonalds has stopped using horrible hamburger buns for the breakfast menu.
Finally Bangkok has Sausage and Egg McMuffins in something that resembles a muffin and not a bun anymore.
Apart from that, nothing new, poor choice of girls, rainy and flooding expected next week in Bangkok.
And of course, the baht keeps getting stronger and making Thailand ever more expensive.
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Hi Guys,
I am planning to visit BKK this comin week for a fw days. How would you guys who hve been in bkk say the best way to entertain a person. What are some of the places for a guy to hang out over there to enjoy some real GFE experiences.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]A standard escort in New York costs $300 for an hour. In BKK it's about $65, which makes it almost 20% of the cost for farangs too.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
Tokyo: Bottom of the line blow job, from an almost too plain provider, in a $50 ST "sex hotel", is $150, therefore = $200. A reasonably cute escort, for just over an hour, providing full sex = $250. $350 up. An actual hottie, providing FS and GFE = $500+ for 2 hours, or $800+ overnight.
These prices are fairly indicative of prices in the US as well. But, in the US, you can always find an ugly meth head to do the deed for a couple of Jack n' Cokes and $40 for her 'electric bill'. Heh.
In Europe, prices are all over the map, there are Romanians in Paris, Czechs in London, Russians in Frankfurt, and Thais in Amsterdam. But, for a quality cutie anywhere in Europe, it is going to cost you BIG TIME.
The Japanese come to Thailand for the same reasons millions of farangs do, it's a far cry from 65, 000 Yen per night to 4000 Baht p/n. In the case of the Japanese though, don't ever wonder why they tip so large, it's because they are just too used to paying insane amounts of freakin' dough for mediocre gash! So, Thai P4P girls just look at Japanese guys like shooting fish in a barrel.
It doesn't take a PhD in Modular Fractal Group Theory to figure this shit out!
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[QUOTE=The Pro]The most exciting thing to happen in Bangkok in the last few months is that finally McDonalds has stopped using horrible hamburger buns for the breakfast menu.
Finally Bangkok has Sausage and Egg McMuffins in something that resembles a muffin and not a bun anymore.[/quote] OMG, you actually eat that stuff?
[quote]Apart from that, nothing new, poor choice of girls, rainy and flooding expected next week in Bangkok.[/quote]I think the choice these days is rather spectacular myself. Freakin' smokin' hot poontang everywhere in Thailand these days!
[quote]And of course, the baht keeps getting stronger and making Thailand ever more expensive.[/QUOTE]Correction: The dollar keeps getting weaker. The Baht itself is on very shaky ground. The Yuan on the other hand, does continue to get stronger. But, the Baht isn't tied to the Yuan, so there it is.
It's more than a little funny really, the Thais are the ones that keep saying "Now my money make stronger than you." And, since they all have an MBA from Harvard Business and a Yalie Master's Degree in International Development Economics, they all understand precisely what it is they are talking about.
Oh yeah, I forgot, these are the same people that as of yesterday have officially refused to teach English as a second language because they don't want the world to think that they were colonized by an English speaking country. Fuck me (#1.) It makes about as much sense as anything else they do here, and, fuck me (#2.) This shit still makes me laugh just as hard as I did when I got here 26 years ago.
A Thai hotel room and a Thai hooker both cost $10 more per night than they did a year ago, yep, sounds like the whole world is crashing in around us. :D
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[QUOTE=Barko][b]got busted.[/b][/url][/QUOTE]
Bugger! :-(