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[QUOTE=Barko]Exactly.
Tokyo: Bottom of the line blow job, from an almost too plain provider, in a $50 ST "sex hotel", is $150, therefore = $200. A reasonably cute escort, for just over an hour, providing full sex = $250. $350 up. An actual hottie, providing FS and GFE = $500+ for 2 hours, or $800+ overnight.
These prices are fairly indicative of prices in the US as well. But, in the US, you can always find an ugly meth head to do the deed for a couple of Jack n' Cokes and $40 for her 'electric bill'. Heh.
In Europe, prices are all over the map, there are Romanians in Paris, Czechs in London, Russians in Frankfurt, and Thais in Amsterdam. But, for a quality cutie anywhere in Europe, it is going to cost you BIG TIME.
The Japanese come to Thailand for the same reasons millions of farangs do, it's a far cry from 65, 000 Yen per night to 4000 Baht p/n. In the case of the Japanese though, don't ever wonder why they tip so large, it's because they are just too used to paying insane amounts of freakin' dough for mediocre gash! So, Thai P4P girls just look at Japanese guys like shooting fish in a barrel.
It doesn't take a PhD in Modular Fractal Group Theory to figure this shit out![/QUOTE]
Agree all together that Japanese men come her for cheaper AND better sex.
Take Akane, for instance, which gives you an excellent soapland experience for some 1500-2000 bhats. Similar experience in Tokyo would be 5 to 10 times more.
Just a correction: bottom of the line BBJ can be had in Tokyo for 3000 yen, that is 30-40 US. YMMV, but sometimes you can be lucky and get a young japanese provider. The other comparison is Asian Mystique , which delivers to your place/hotel excellent english speaking japanese girls, for 2 full hours of fun, including FS. All the above van be checked in the Tokyo thread.
Still, BKK is more fun and cheaper, of course...and nobody with a sane mind can recommend Tokyo as a mongering destination as such.
Japan as a mongering destination for farangs is far different from Japan as a mongering destination for Japanese.
They have sex clubs that are much more creative and interesting than anything you can find anywhere else in the world. We're just not allowed in.
Check this book out:
[url]http://www.pinkboxjapan.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Dreams]...and nobody with a sane mind can recommend Tokyo as a mongering destination as such.[/QUOTE]Back in the early 80's, OMG.
Shinjuku, Harajuku, the Shibayu, and anywhere around the Yaesu Fujiya Hotel in the Ginza. Premium young honeys, just falling all over any gaijin within striking distance. And, ready to feed any fetish that strikes a fancy at that particular moment as well. It got so bad that there were unbelievably hot and devastatingly cute 15 year old cuties in school uniforms (kogal) that would say "Suckee suckee, I love you" as you walked by them. (The age of consent was 12, and prostitution was, essentially, legal.) It was unnerving to say the least, and I will readily admit that I suffered permanent damage from it. The best mongering location on the entire planet, yes it was.
Then, suddenly, there was AIDS.
Japan changed overnight, and it will never ever be the same.
[quote]Tokyo: Bottom of the line blow job, from an almost too plain provider, in a $50 ST "sex hotel", is $150, therefore = $200.[/quote]
Or you can go to one of the hundreds of pink salons in Tokyo and get a BBBJCIM from an average to good looking woman for ~35.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Red Square,
Not sure whether I really "work" here :) ...
But I own the hotel. And many Bangkok rookies come here.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]It will be my first time in Bkk. I have Just booked a suite on livingstones for five nights starting 25October.
Should you know of some lads going doing the rounds will you let me know so that I can join?
LS
[QUOTE=Evianist]Japan as a mongering destination for farangs is far different from Japan as a mongering destination for Japanese.
They have sex clubs that are much more creative and interesting than anything you can find anywhere else in the world. We're just not allowed in.
Check this book out:
[url]http://www.pinkboxjapan.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
...this is the truth. Japan sucks now, except for freebies which is still a good scene. But for P4P, it's a bad proposition at best.
The mongering scene in Japan is not quite as bleak a picture as recently painted on this thread, as those who regularly participate in it and read/post in the Japan section. And it has improved in the 12+ years I have lived here. It is far more expensive than Thailand but I find it satisfying enough. A CIM-BBBJ with a JGirl can be had for as low as $50 or so. It is far better for those living here who can navigate the scene with reasonable Japanese skills. However, I still enjoy mongering in Thailand for all the previously stated reasons.
Here are two more reasons the Japanese like Thailand.
It is one of the few countries that escaped Japanese wrath during the Pacific War. Hence there are no collective bad memories of Japanese atrocities. The Japanese are widely despised in many parts of Asia, particularly China and Korea. They know it, so they prefer the Thai hookers who collectively are more willing to provide a GFE.
The Japanese hold a nonsensical notion that Thailand, Thai culture and the Thai people are more like Japan and the Japanese than any other in Asia. Actually it is Korea and the Koreans, but they will never admit it. As a result they feel much more comfortable at a home away from home in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]The mongering scene in Japan is not quite as bleak a picture as recently painted on this thread, as those who regularly participate in it and read/post in the Japan section. And it has improved in the 12+ years I have lived here. It is far more expensive than Thailand but I find it satisfying enough. A CIM-BBBJ with a JGirl can be had for as low as $50 or so. It is far better for those living here who can navigate the scene with reasonable Japanese skills. However, I still enjoy mongering in Thailand for all the previously stated reasons.
Here are two more reasons the Japanese like Thailand.
It is one of the few countries that escaped Japanese wrath during the Pacific War. Hence there are no collective bad memories of Japanese atrocities. The Japanese are widely despised in many parts of Asia, particularly China and Korea. They know it, so they prefer the Thai hookers who collectively are more willing to provide a GFE.
The Japanese hold a nonsensical notion that Thailand, Thai culture and the Thai people are more like Japan and the Japanese than any other in Asia. Actually it is Korea and the Koreans, but they will never admit it. As a result they feel much more comfortable at a home away from home in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Most perceptive. Just to add one point: Japan is perhaps one of the cheapest place, if not the cheapest, for anal sex among OCED countries and it has one of the best S&M scenes too.
[QUOTE=Jeremy]The two hotties are very likely coyote girls ( young, lively, hot, hot pants, usually with hats and boots on ). These are strictly dancers who will also sit with you to chit chat and some hugs but will never go boom boom with you. Lady drinks are pricey, 200 baht or so and they drink fast.
Spice Girls belong to the same stable, LOL. These girls are there to attract customers into the bar to drink and to intro them to b/f the regular girls. It is not exactly a rip off operation. Most regular punters know this.
Jeremy[/QUOTE]Meanwhile there are 6 clubs with Cojote dancers, all with the same owner I was told: D. V. And Spice Girls as Jeremy mentioned, and Sahara, Rio, Midnite, Kiss. If I go in one of these bars and a cojote joins me, I ask "You can go barfine? ", answer "no" and I say "ok, no drink" and they disappear immedately.
All bars have also regular dancers. I barfined one from Club Kiss yesterday and she was cute. I'll post a photo soon.
Best bars are still Shark! And Baccara, they are always crowded. Ok, Baccara is a Japs bar, but if you look for a place in the back where the girls hang out who are not dancing yet, you still have a chance to catch a stunner.
Not only is anal sex widely available in Japan, it is perfectly legal. A blow job is considered a form of massage and also perfectly legal if performed by a Japanese female. The price and availability are not nearly as good in Japan as in Thailand, especially of course for non-Japanese. But let me tell you one thing that you can take directly to the bank........if you get a hold of a good Japanese service provider, she will give you the best service of your life. Their attitude of always giving the customer the best service is second to none. I will take a Japanese provider over a Thai any day of the week, even at a higher cost. I have had Japanese girls suck my cock for 40 minutes solid without one complaint in order to get me to finish. A Chinese would ***** and moan after two minutes. And CIM is almost always par for the course. So P4P is not as bad as some advertise it to be in Japan. You just need to be prepared to pay more and often settle for second best, which is often quite good, all things considered.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I have had Japanese girls suck my cock for 40 minutes solid without one complaint in order to get me to finish.[/QUOTE]
I had a Thai girl suck my cock for 55minutes!! @ SOL Patpong2. She never moaned or complained, just asked me if I was ok. She only complained after the CIM that her jaw was sore... She got a monster tip for her effort.
I see. Well, my Jap cock sucker deep throated my member the whole time and refused my generous tip offer.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I see. Well, my Jap cock sucker deep throated my member the whole time and refused my generous tip offer.[/QUOTE]
Do you think there are under-30s girls available for foreigners in Tokyo? Looks like the locals keep them to theirselves. Reminds me of what it is like here in Egypt. The Egyptian girls are hard to find for a foreigner but the Africans are everywhere.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Do you think there are under-30s girls available for foreigners in Tokyo? Looks like the locals keep them to theirselves. Reminds me of what it is like here in Egypt. The Egyptian girls are hard to find for a foreigner but the Africans are everywhere.[/QUOTE]There is a bar in Tokyo called Gas Panic. It's a well known 'hook up' spot for foreigners in Tokyo. The girls that go there do so for a few reasons: To get really drunk, and to find foreigners.