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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2064590]Go into any nightclub in the world and you will find attractive guys buying less attractive females overpriced drinks, whilst hoping they will fuCk them!

Brothels are no different, if anything men's standards seem to be so much lower in brothels, many seem to suspend their standards as a trade off for "a sure thing" and the fact they aren't.

Going to have to see them again, and they can go on the sex forums and tell "fish stories" about how gorgeous the WG was they did last night.[/QUOTE]Did you see so many good looking guys in FKK during your long time tour? And so many ugly girls?

My problem in FKK is to too often see the beauty and the beast, fresh flesh girls going with monsters, sometimes I said to Sandra Sharks or now to Kate ex Aca or my ex LR girl, can't desire them after seeing that.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2064537]Pfff ... not true. Trade / business takes a lot of Asian businessmen to Germany. Frankfurt is a major financial centre.

They were sex tourists, but more than that they were businessmen / expats. Today there are more fly in/fly out sex tourists (including Asians) without any clue about Germany or understanding of German (p4p) culture.[/QUOTE]The guy I spoke with may have been exaggerating about being the only Asian face (or I remembered details incorrectly). I think almost everyone will agree the number of fly-in sex tourists has increased exponentially. Increased business relations cannot account for that increase.

Or maybe these businessmen / expats became enthusiastic promoters in the online P6 forums in their native language / country? From speaking with most mongers, we live a double life. So discussing P6 is something we do online or in-person with other monger friends. And one probably won't have monger friends if they exclusively see escorts, since the operators try their best to provide discretion.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2064566]Someone interested in paid sex and porn and things of similar nature is bound to come across these clubs and forums, because they show up in Google searches now. Back then, it was less obvious.
[/QUOTE]My first business trip to Germany was in 2009. While in my hotel, I must have did a search for "escorts", because that trip I didn't learn about the FKKs. I didn't do a search for "sex club" probably because I associated that term with swingers. In retrospect, I would have stumbled upon FKKs much sooner, had I done a search for "sex forums", but I mistakenly thought all those would be in German language.

In the end, I can't remember how I learned of FKKs. I suspect I may have seen an advertisement on a Frankfurt taxi, and then immediately performed a Google search on my smartphone.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2064623]So feminist politicians get to decide how much pleasure they think you should be allowed to enjoy.

In the american clubs I go in, it is not!

Guess what? That's a good thing.

A very good thing.

Do you know what the rules are?

Well, there are none.

Do you know what the prices are?

Well, there are none.

A truly free market.[/QUOTE]But you said more expensive paid sex in US than in FKK, and I remember I paid 200 USD for 1 hour for a only cute brunette, not a Romanian beauty like Kate or Megan or Madi or Luana LR, for only 100/ h.

Really bad you didn't enjoy more your stay in Germany, with feeling of waste of money for FKK.

I'm a bit sad to say this because I like my country and my town, but I feel safer in Germany than on Champs Elysées, said to be the most beautiful street in the world. Except 2 guys in FKK who don't like prettiest girls come to me when they have to run after, most Germans are friendly, giving a good welcome. Many Germans seeing me every week end, think I'm German and come to speak to me. When they know I'm French and drive so many kilometers, they can't believe it.

As I already wrote often, I agree with this new law to protect WGs, mainly for poor Romanians and Bulgarians, versus some guys pressure, because this kind of guys think they can have everything when paying. That's why many of the prettiest and busiest girls at Sharks left, and they become talkative after. With this new law, a girl can say now to a guy: law says only CBJ and CFS, and you can't complaint to the desk, crying, about this, because I just respect law. With my behavior with girls, I knew no need to worry, FKK life would go on, without forcing nor being a beggar.

I enjoy going to some clubs, they are my houses for week end, but not for holidays. I m really welcome at LR, by staff, by girls, like I was 2 years and half ago at World.

Even I think it's a bad business, but I enjoy FKK land. Perfect would be to find the perfect GFE beauty and only her, I thought I found but not anymore elegant enough for me.

To enjoy FKK, need to love Romanian girls, I do.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2064562]One thing I know, remove that 50 E exchange and 99% of the guys are not fuckable, from the girls'perspective.

There is a reason it is the guys paying the girls, and not the other way.

It would help to take a look in the mirror every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I am quite sure for many girls in FKKs that the thought of you lying on top of them will haunt them forever.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2064948]Luckycookie was telling me about the rule of 3.

Concerning Asian customers and BTW he was born in China.

He says it goes like this.

The girls love the Asian customers.

Because.

3 mm.

3 minutes.

3 hundred euro.

I asked a few Asian guys what a girl was like after they pay at the boxes, and what was included.

And they all say I don't know I never ask for any of "that".[/QUOTE]Yes, most are easy clients, but some girls also like Asians because they are kind with girls, not always the same with some local regulars.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2064948]Luckycookie was telling me about the rule of 3.

Concerning Asian customers and BTW he was born in China.

He says it goes like this.

The girls love the Asian customers.

Because.

3 mm.

3 minutes.

3 hundred euro.

I asked a few Asian guys what a girl was like after they pay at the boxes, and what was included.

And they all say I don't know I never ask for any of "that".[/QUOTE]Heh, that joke has new numbers in every country. In thailand is went like this:

'The 333's:

They pay 3000 bath to have sex for 3 minutes with a 3 inch dick'.

Given this was a few years ago, 3000 bath was a lot back then. 3 mm like in yours is a bit unrealistic. So it looses realism then.

The price is more than 50 euros that is for sure.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2064623]So feminist politicians get to decide how much pleasure they think you should be allowed to enjoy.

In the american clubs I go in, it is not!

Guess what? That's a good thing.

A very good thing.

Do you know what the rules are?

Well, there are none.

Do you know what the prices are?

Well, there are none.

A truly free market.[/QUOTE]

Trying to get from Dusseldorf to Dortmund airport. Anyone ever used public transport to get there? Doesn't seem like there's a train station to the airport.

This guy and his bar friends sound like fans of Right Said Fred. Yup right, a bunch of "I am too sexy for my tush" Yahoos are buying drinks for ugly chicks. Why oh why. Why don't they follow your model and just jack off, instead of throwing money away.

In any case, the question was not about bars all around the world, but FKK clubs in particular. I don't know about you, but I take a look at some of the hedgehogs in the men's shower in the clubs and feel for the girls having to suck that and fuck that. I hope the fancy Coach bag they hope to buy is worth all that.

And I don't know where all these fancy clubs in the US are, still waiting to hear the details. And please, no apples to bananas comparison. We are talking about 50 E for fuck and suck sessions here. If I pay a million, I could have a Demi Moore, we all saw that movie. Who runs down the food at Red Lobster because there is a Michelin starred restaurant serving fantastic food in Paris for two hundred a person? I have been to dozens of strip clubs all over the place in US, and for fifty you get a dry hump for 6 min, and not necessarily from better lookers than FKK girls. Monger88 (who seems like a true expert and not just a blowhard) said below 300 all one gets is skanks and druggies. I would trust his balanced views than the drivel I hear.

Let me say this. There are hundreds and thousands of mongers flying from the US to Germany just for fucking. I haven't heard of mongers in similar numbers flying in the reverse direction from Germany to US, saying "let me have some of that gorgeous piece of ass over there at six times the price". Perhaps they are all a secret -- seen only by you in those fine US establishments, whose identity I guess will also remain a secret.

Too bad it took you six weeks to figure out these clubs were a dump. I can usually figure out a dump in five min.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2065014]This guy and his bar friends sound like fans of Right Said Fred. Yup right, a bunch of "I am too sexy for my tush" Yahoos are buying drinks for ugly chicks. Why oh why. Why don't they follow your model and just jack off, instead of throwing money away.

In any case, the question was not about bars all around the world, but FKK clubs in particular. I don't know about you, but I take a look at some of the hedgehogs in the men's shower in the clubs and feel for the girls having to suck that and fuck that. I hope the fancy Coach bag they hope to buy is worth all that.

And I don't know where all these fancy clubs in the US are, still waiting to hear the details. And please, no apples to bananas comparison. We are talking about 50 E for fuck and suck sessions here. If I pay a million, I could have a Demi Moore, we all saw that movie. Who runs down the food at Red Lobster because there is a Michelin starred restaurant serving fantastic food in Paris for two hundred a person? I have been to dozens of strip clubs all over the place in US, and for fifty you get a dry hump for 6 min, and not necessarily from better lookers than FKK girls. Monger88 (who seems like a true expert and not just a blowhard) said below 300 all one gets is skanks and druggies. I would trust his balanced views than the drivel I hear.

Let me say this. There are hundreds and thousands of mongers flying from the US to Germany just for fucking. I haven't heard of mongers in similar numbers flying in the reverse direction from Germany to US, saying "let me have some of that gorgeous piece of ass over there at six times the price". Perhaps they are all a secret -- seen only by you in those fine US establishments, whose identity I guess will also remain a secret.

Too bad it took you six weeks to figure out these clubs were a dump. I can usually figure out a dump in five min.[/QUOTE]Great pitch!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2064959]Did you see so many good looking guys in FKK during your long time tour? And so many ugly girls?

My problem in FKK is to too often see the beauty and the beast, fresh flesh girls going with monsters, sometimes I said to Sandra Sharks or now to Kate ex Aca or my ex LR girl, can't desire them after seeing that.[/QUOTE]Trust me Siri, I saw plenty of that also, try sitting on the couches by the front door of sharks, and watch the stairs, wowww.

You will vomit, but those WGs do that by choice they can say no to any customer, there are plenty of WGs I wouldn't session with, or session with again, after some of the action I saw them getting.

And yes I saw more good looking dudes in each FKK then I've ever seen in any american club, in America, many guys buy into the notion that mongering is trashy or just for minorities or they can get all the pussy they want w / o "paying for it", it is obvious there is a different mindset in Germany.

[QUOTE=DMD2017;2064249]Except Nevada. There's brothels all over that state.[/QUOTE]Not really. There are brothels in some relatively rural parts of Nevada, inconvenient for the casual visitor to Las Vegas. Lots of WGs in Vegas, but not legal. The brothels that DO exist tend to be vastly overpriced for the knowledgeable international monger.

And those WGs in the USA that sell themselves at a price point comparable to FKK rates are typically far less attractive than almost ANY WG working an FKK of any repute. I've seen some ugly comments sw working obscure FKKs back when I frequented Germany (2004-06), but generally FKK girls of any nationality are several notches above typical American WGs.

Finally, I generally had ZERO concern about getting a BBBJ in an FKK. In the USA, especially know with epidemic-level intravenous opioid addiction rampant, the risks of HIV or Hep-C are high, not to mention your garden variety chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, HPV, etc. Addicted WGs in the US, and there are many, worry more about earning to get there next fix than they do safety. More than once I've had to push one off when she just tried to hop on for BBFS cowgirl to get me off quick, get paid, then text her dealer.

I've known too many mongers catch things, and now I pretty much save up for trips to Thailand and the Philippines.

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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2064783]I would doubt that the Greens or the SPD will reverse this if they come to power in 2018. This law has the 'Greens signature' all over it: deeply intruding into people's personal lives supposedly for 'humanitarian' or 'social' reasons.

The fact that there Greens voted against this law means nothing: it's all a game of politics because they knew that they didn't have a majority to block it anyway, and that the law would pass regardless. [/QUOTE]The SPD is the sister political party of the CDU. Together, the SPD and CDU have banded together to have a majority vote in the legislature. If the new law has anyone's handwriting all over it, it's the SPD.

The Greens not only voted against the law, but argued against it. In fact, the Green Party was the only political party of any real substance that opposed the law. If anything, we should all be cheering the Greens and giving the stink eye to the SPD (and the CDU for their cooperation with the SPD on this point).

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2065014]
Let me say this. There are hundreds and thousands of mongers flying from the US to Germany just for fucking. I haven't heard of mongers in similar numbers flying in the reverse direction from Germany to US, saying "let me have some of that gorgeous piece of ass over there at six times the price". Perhaps they are all a secret -- seen only by you in those fine US establishments, whose identity I guess will also remain a secret.

Too bad it took you six weeks to figure out these clubs were a dump. I can usually figure out a dump in five min.[/QUOTE]I live in the States at least 10 months of the year (that is, most of the year). I am one of those guys who flies to Germany all the time. I am highly reluctant to compare the scene in Germany to the scene in the States because quite frankly, there is no comparison. There are very good reasons that I and thousands and thousands of my fellow Americans are flying to Germany all the time. And, the only reason more Americans aren't flying to Germany is due to mere ignorance of how good it is in Germany. I have yet to meet an American who visited FKKs who didn't find it a life-changing experience.