American Politics

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2784232]How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm opposed to the Washington dem / RINO / media / Wall St / alphabet agency / military-industrial / ZOG / swamp / deep state.

I'm simply pointing out that due to the Biden regime's incompetence and malice, America is losing its position of global dominance..[/QUOTE]It was a Q. But your answer supports what you supposed. Nothing but one side of US corruptiion for another. But always the best is USA outcomes.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784283]I'm not a fan of Dore though. His favored economic policies, which for some strange reason he feels compelled to relate to Russiagate at the end of the video, would make for a much less prosperous and weaker America.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to listen to Dore, subscribe to Mate. He is the journalist that does the work. Ne was highly influencial in Russiagate, in the Syria debacle. He is one of the few heroic journalists left. But big props for watching the video.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2783173]Crass and indelicate as always!!! Dude, not exactly the kind of betting you want to be associated with, [b]or maybe you do?[/b] (...kkkk).

But by all means, you do you. However I will refute your claims.

Well, since most Repubs are just such exemplary, pious, devout and righteous "Christians", and we all know the evidence bares it out, that these kind of vile assaults (as you've stated) mostly happens in the realms and hallowed halls of Church, one can only surmise the following.

These heinous acts, typically carried out in a act of betrayal of trust, from your so called arbiters of holiness, typically in the form clergymen, pastors, bishops, cardinals or even arch-cardinals at the top.

So it isn't hard to imagine that, not only are such unholy practices, carried out on the proverbial "choirboys/girls" and "alter-boys/girls", but no doubt, also on the general Sunday-school Bible class congregation as well. [i]And who attends these Sunday-school Bible classes you ask? [/i] Why the righteous QAnon/Repubs of course.

I'm sure you can figure out the rest on your own, w/r to the unnatural completion of the circle-of-abuse and sexual misconduct, from the pious and [b]"righteous-right"[/b], given the worldwide reach of the institution and front for [b]"right[/b]eous" sexual-deviants, known as the church and its [b]"right[/b]eous" minions.

Therefore definitely more like, 1K x 100K the rate, [u]on the RIGHT[/u] more than on the left, given the influence of the church.

BTW, perhaps I'm [b]just kidding[/b]...or I'm I? After all, you provide no evidence to backup your baseless right-wing claims.

[b]PS: [/b]Is it any wonder Rep. Lauren Boebert Calls Separation of Church and State [b]'Junk'[/b] (Talk about doing the church's biding, or should I say pre-grooming? ...kkkk!)

[URL]https://people.com/politics/rep-lauren-boebert-denounces-separation-of-church-state/ [/URL][/QUOTE]I wrote a long retort, but I don't see it.

I'm not going to rewrite it, the whole world knows the party of pedos is the party of Bubba et al.

Look at the gay Boy Scout leaders, they arent right wingers, several years ago I was listening to NPR maybe Fresh Air she was interviewing.

A gay scout leader and she asked him if he received grief from his friends and he chuckled and said.

No I hope to make more change from the inside than fighting from the outside (yeah you can't rape those scouts from the outside looking in).

Same with the priests.

Remember Ted, you're quintessential wolf and sheeps clothing.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwSSpKzjFg9OIuSU1RyEhMT08sSgEAWJcHlw&q=ted[/URL]+haggard&rlz=1 CAQRFK_enUS987&oq=ted+&aqs=chrome. 1. 69 i59 j46 i39 j69 i57 j46 i131 i433 i512 j0 i67 j46 i433 i512 j0 i433 i512 j0 i67 j0 i433 i512 l2. 2732 j0 j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

These dirtbags are grifters and conmen hiding amongst the naive churchgoers.

They arent much different than most Democrats in Congress.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/gordon-chang-china-joe-biden/2023/01/17/id/1104801/[/URL]

[URL]https://rollcall.com/2016/05/13/report-bill-clinton-flew-on-disgraced-donors-jet-26-times/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-like-brothers-documentary-ghislaine-maxwell-friend-victoria-hervey-1670665[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/27/former-democrat-mayor-to-get-7-years-in-prison-for-child-sex-crime-charges/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/nonbinary-teacher-boasts-changing-students-genders-parents-knowing-they-need-protection[/URL]

[URL]https://www.hawley.senate.gov/democrats-block-hawley-bill-get-tough-child-sex-offenders[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2784367]Spidy's theory makes a lot more sense Chris. Those 4740 deaths from "firearms, not stated" must be from bazookas, grenade launchers, shoulder fired missiles, howitzers and similar firearms owned by right wing militia members and hard core Trump supporters. ...[/QUOTE] Thank you for making my point. Since Chris P, couldn't see it for himself, how ridiculous such claims and assumptions are w/r to attributing a particular segment/part of the chart, as being associated with a certain group of people, when the chart presented, CLEARLY shows no such associations or anything of the sort.

But feel free to continue your shared delusion.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2784438]Thank you for making my point. Since Chris P, couldn't see it for himself, how ridiculous such claims and assumptions are w/r to attributing a particular segment/part of the chart, as being associated with a certain group of people, when the chart presented, CLEARLY shows no such associations or anything of the sort.

But feel free to continue your shared delusion.[/QUOTE]Chris’ estimate of a 10 to 1 ratio of deaths from handguns versus rifles, shotguns and other guns looks pretty darn good to me based on the FBI numbers:

[url]https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls[/url]

The most reasonable way to treat the “type not stated” category is to apportion it in accordance with the other categories.

Please note the FBI gets the info from local police departments, which provide it voluntarily, and the data often is not complete. Presumably that means if the local police department doesnt report the type of weapon, the FBI calls it “type not stated.”

Spidy, The tables are turned. I didn't entirely catch that your post was satirical. Yes, Democrats, Republicans and apolitical types all kill with handguns. And handgun suicides I think outnumber handgun murders. I'd bring up homicide rates in blue cities again but I'm tired of arguing about that. You'd bring up red state homicide rates, I'd bring up Simpson's Paradox, you'd say that's hocus pocus, and we get nowhere.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784374]I have to disagree with you on this one Elvis. Scarborough says he was knocked down for months or weeks with the COVID disease because he did NOT get the booster.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I misread that. Dr. Malone, who created the mRNA vaccines, made the comment you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him think. Still, Scarborough was vaccinated and got Covid.

But in addition to that there was the project Veritas video that most of the media did not cover. Their video of a Pfizer manager has been watched by millions.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784374]Rather, I'd go to my general practitioner, an internal medicine specialist, who's a big believer in the COVID vaccine and boosters.[/QUOTE]Well, he might be a conflicted source. Is he billing for giving the vaccines? Thing is that PV video is covered by Tucker Carlson here: [URL]https://rumble.com/v27a4co-dr.-robert-malone-joins-tucker-to-discuss-the-project-veritas-video-exposin.html[/URL].

And in that video at the 16:40 mark is Dr. Robert Malone saying Pfizer is admitting their vaccines do not work: "but the buried lead is the implicit acknowledgement that they cannot construct vaccines fast enough as the virus is outrunning them, and they are having to resort to extraordinary measures. This is an admission of defeat with their vaccine technology. ".

The thing about this Pfizer employee is that he admits Covid was created in a lab. He is now admitting how easy it is to manipulate the virus and implies that Pfizer is doing so again. Thing is this is done with cold viruses to make flu vaccines all the time. The notion that forced mutation is gain of function is wrong, but forced mutation COULD lead to gain of function.

Furthermore, Dr. Malone is saying that Pfizer could move this research to Israel and I am not sure there is a damned thing the USA can do about it. And this research could lead to another pandemic that makes the last one look like a walk in the park.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784374]And giving Moderna and Pfizer and other vaccine manufacturers immunity from lawsuits was a great idea. Otherwise the plaintiff's attorneys might be suing them into nonexistence, like they did for a while with manufacturers of silicone breast implants and private planes.[/QUOTE]Well, it is harder to sue now than it was, but I forgot about the government involvement in mandating the vaccines and its own liability. They are going to do something to protect big Pharma. At this point, they have to. There is no way this can go to court. Pharma will get killed.

Uff, this is red hot. Admission of the most heinous crimes. Will the mainstream media continue to hide the truth or will we finally advance to overthrow the ruling class?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO86vEGsOB0[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2784381]Haha, so typical. The video is about Schiff, and you have to make it about Trump. Thats why your party keeps losijng power. You cannot separate lies from reality. You keep voting for criminals.[/QUOTE]Which Party keeps losing power?

Are you denying that Biden won the 2020 election in a Trump / Repub-defined Landslide, that the Dems gained a seat in the Senate in a year that historically shifts big time to the non WH Party and in that same year is still just 5 House votes away from overriding anything Squeaker of the House McQarthy's master Marjory orders him to do to destroy the USA economy and National Security Repub-style for the next 22 months?

Seriously, this kind of "rationale" is not very different from the kind of "rationale" I have heard and read from numbskulls defending their votes for Repubs for decades.

In less than 2 minutes, several Repub George Santos voters and supporters tell us everything we need to know about why Repubs and pro Repub Bothsiders and Neithersiders vote for, support and help Repubs win elections:

[URL]https://youtu.be/Gr2aedbGIPc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784507]Chris estimate of a 10 to 1 ratio of deaths from handguns versus rifles, shotguns and other guns looks pretty darn good to me based on the FBI numbers
[/QUOTE]Indeed.

So the question is: given that handgun crime and violence is a vastly greater problem than rifles, why is all the rhetoric we see in the media, hollyweird and from the democrats about AR-15's?

Could it be because most AR-15 owners are law-abiding suburban and rural heritage Americans, who are the intended victims of the left's modern-day Bolshevism and must be disarmed in order to be stripped of their rights and property in the name of "equity" and "racial justice"?

While handguns are predominantly used by the BLM footsoldiers of the intended revolution, and so are to be left alone?

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2784374]I have to disagree with you on this one Elvis. Dilbert's creator isn't the first person I'd go to for COVID advice. [/QUOTE]Tiny, remember the video I posted here a coupla months ago from a very reputable medical pratinioner from UK that was speaking up about vax injury. And you said you didn't believe it bcos your own research was more credible to you than that of someone that had dedicated his recent life to researching the subject. Remember that? Remember you saying that it was not beleiveable bcos we would now have unexplained excess deaths to support the midical issues caused by the the vaxxes?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av4Ej6om0WI[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2Fv7xnL1o[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFayD_S_54[/URL]

It's all so clear. Its the new 'WMD' saga. Big govt is so corrupt, they are beyond listening to.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2784270]Did you guys notice when the lab leak theory came into being? It was just after Trump was out of office around April 2021. There were a slew of articles and people talking about where Covid originated from, and I remember hearing a guy named Josh Rogin of the Washington Post on the Joe Rogan show spewing out information about the Wuhan lab and Fauci I had not heard before. It was like some billionaire somewhere said, "Okay, we can trash the naturally occurring Covid theory and now tell people the truth. " And anyone who listened to this information was like Jon Stewart, ranting about how dumb anyone was to believe otherwise.

And now it looks like some billionaire has given the okay on talking crap about the Covid vaccine:

[URL]https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1617873558155165697[/URL]

Joe Scarborough was "knocked down" for months / weeks after getting the Covid booster, and his wife goes along with it.

Then you have Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, admitting he was wrong about the vaccine.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dilbert-creator-scott-adams-admits-vax-critics-were-right-still-doesnt-get-why[/URL]

It is not as if I did not anticipate this but I though it would happen in 2024 when the legal immunity drug makers have with the vaccine is over.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html[/URL]

What happens next? Well, the vaccines are going to be withdrawn faster than any product in human history once that immunity expires. There might be some 200 page document that a person could sign if they wanted the vaccine going forward but given the drug companies have to be honest about the side effects of the vaccine in said document, I would bet it is more likely than not it will not be offered. The safer course is just to say the vaccines do not work against the newer variants and pull them.

The one thing I can say for certain is with these never mind Democrats it will not bother them in the least. They still believe Russiagate was real; they believe in the naturally occurring Covid theory and that if Hiliary would have been president versus Trump, we would have had no Covid deaths.

So the Covid vaccine may actually be a bigger health crisis than Covid itself but never mind.[/QUOTE]Evidently Elvis isn't against using "fake news" (that's what he calls anything that isn't rightwingnut media) sources, in this case CNBC, when whatever they report on seem to bolster his POV. So I guess that Elvis has been lying all along when he talks about "fake news". Evidently, receiving compensation for COVID-vaccine-related injury is more complicated than saying, in effect, "I usually eat oatmeal for breakfast. Yesterday I ate Wheaties. Late yesterday afternoon I crashed my car. Wheaties obviously caused it. ".

In other news, viruses mutate and Elvis just became aware of this fact.

No Dem argues that there would have been no COVID deaths if HRC would have been president. After all, COVID was present in the US long before anyone even knew about it. What Dems [B]will argue[/B] is that HRC (1) would not have removed the Response team from China and (2) wouldn't have lied to the American public about the seriousness of COVID and (3) wouldn't have told Americans to inject disinfectant.

And, as long as we're looking at stuff people believe, Repubs still believe that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donnie the Dumbass and Repubs believe that President Biden's and Donnie the Dumbass' documents cases are exactly the same.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2784715]Which Party keeps losing power?

Are you denying that Biden won the 2020 election[/QUOTE]Haha, Again, so typical of you. You can't respond to the issue so you turn it in to a strawman conspiracy.

Both parties lose the election regularly. Bcos both are total shlt and represent big money and are totally corrupt. I can be honest about that. Whereas you lie.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2784820]Haha, Again, so typical of you. You can't respond to the issue so you turn it in to a strawman conspiracy.

Both parties lose the election regularly. Bcos both are total shlt and represent big money and are totally corrupt. I can be honest about that. Whereas you lie.[/QUOTE]Actually, I can't remember the last time I posted anything about either party being full of shit, representing big money or their corruption.

I kind of consider those to be sucker social issues whipped up to sway rather dumb voters. Clearly, they are the "issues" you think are really important. No surprise.

No, if you want to read posts about which party has produced and presided over every major economic downturn, massive jobs destruction and none of the historic economic expansions and jobs creation of the past 100 years and which party has produced and presided over none of those major economic downturns and all of the historic economic expansions and jobs creation of the past 100 years, I'm your guy. I direct you to many of my posts.

That is, if actual results of truly important things ever start to interest you instead of those silly sucker social issues you Repubs and pro Repub Bothsider and Neithersider suckers fall for all the time.

If you want to discuss junk like who is or isn't full of shit, whatever that means to you, or how to save souls from corruption, I might recommend that you consult a priest or a rabbi. If you want to find pols and parties that have ever or will ever win elections in America without support from "big money", again whatever that means to you, I recommend you read up on miracles, witchcraft and magic spells.

Maybe contemplating and assessing the hard, cold reality of American Politics just isn't for you.