[QUOTE=Giotto]The other bars - I don't know and heard nothing negative. [/QUOTE]
How come you didn't update about Demonia???
Green Parrot I never had a problem with my bills or such either.
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[QUOTE=Giotto]The other bars - I don't know and heard nothing negative. [/QUOTE]
How come you didn't update about Demonia???
Green Parrot I never had a problem with my bills or such either.
Can you recommend 2-3 good bars and ST prices? Is 1000 Baht the sweet spot for a decent girl? Does that include the bar fine?
I'm coming to Bangkok for a few days next month, so looking to do it right and not pay too much and ruin it for others. I don't want to contribute to price inflation.
Thanks for any advice for a newbie!
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]How come you didn't update about Demonia???
Green Parrot I never had a problem with my bills or such either.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,
Correct, I have never been in Green Parrot, but I will add it to the list if you say its ok.
Demonia :) , whoever goes there knows what to expect, and that he has to pay for that.
Giotto
This is the continuation of Tbe Dream Experience Continues from the Pattaya section. As always, the pages are meant to be read in , i.e., A1, B2, C3, etc.
Evil
As always, the pages should be read in order, i.e., K11, L12, M13, etc.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]As always, the pages should be read in order, i.e., K11, L12, M13, etc.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Print layouts! How quaint ... but a great report.
May I ask why you changed hotels? Usually it takes something really offensive to get me to relocate my sorry ass.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]As always, the pages should be read in order, i.e., K11, L12, M13, etc.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Nice report of the lodge and pictures. And here I thought you were only a Eden guy. ;)
[QUOTE=Member #2041]I have found that OUR looks have exactly NOTHING to do with it - unless you're trying to pull a non-pro. FYI, I'm 48, greying/balding, and 5'8" and weigh 280 pounds, and it has NEVER been an issue in Thailand. The ladies will make jokes about my belly, and I will respond that I am like buddah. And they go with me, no problem. My experience is that these working girls are all about the Baht, and being treated nicely. They have pretty much ALL been treated badly by Thai guys, and they know that Farangs will generally treat them much nicer, as well as spend money on them. And once you prove it, they will want to hang out with you.[/QUOTE]
Member,
That's why we have a board like this. There are a million to a billion different life experiences. In your's, it has not mattered. In my experiences, it has, through observation of others. I have seen girls turn down others or stay firm on prices with some and drop their prices for others. This also includes getting freebies from P4P girls, which some are more apt to get. I'm not saying it happens all the time, but it happens enough.
I've also heard about the stereotyping of the "nice" farang and the shitty Thai guys. Sorry, but that's mostly a myth too, in my observations. You can look the world over and find that shitty guy's are in good supply in all races/cultures. That's why they have restraining orders. But there are also gentlemen too, and I have met many of all races/cultures. I have Thai friends and contacts, both here in Hawaii and in Thailand, and they have perfectly great families and home lives.
Peace,
AT2
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]May I ask why you changed hotels? Usually it takes something really offensive to get me to relocate my sorry ass.[/QUOTE]
That was job-related. I get paid to stay in different hotels and write reports about them. That's not my main job, but part of it.
Evil
[QUOTE=Hklover]Can you recommend 2-3 good bars and ST prices? Is 1000 Baht the sweet spot for a decent girl? Does that include the bar fine?
I'm coming to Bangkok for a few days next month, so looking to do it right and not pay too much and ruin it for others. I don't want to contribute to price inflation.
Thanks for any advice for a newbie![/QUOTE]
HKLover,
Don't worry about inflation. That, unfortunately, is out of our hands. The only way to stop inflation is to stop buying period. That's not going to happen anytime soon.
The 1,000 baht is the high end for an average girl. You can have a lot of fun with the average girl and a great personality. You may need to go up in price for better looks. Here's my view and I'm sure some others will jump in and flame me for it. The 5 is what I would call the average girl. Dime a dozen and you can find thousands of them. A 6 would be attractive, but would not turn your head in a fish bowl lineup. A 7 would be one of those girls that would attract your attention in a big office environment. An 8 or higher and they could be earning a living off their looks alone. That's just my personal ratings and really, one man's 6 is another man's 8.
The bar fine is not included in the prices I listed and of course, the Soapy Massage Parlors have a fixed price structure. The range, depending on the establishment can be about 1,500 baht to 2,500 for most girls and up to 5,500 baht for the models. The Soapy Tips range from 200 to 500 baht. This is a guide, don't take these numbers too seriously! Negotiate!
Below average to average:
Looks 0 to 3 - 300 baht or less. Opebo girls! Just a joke!
Looks 4 to 5 - 500 baht to 1,000 baht.
Above average to very attactive:
Looks 6 - 1,000 baht to 1,500 baht
Looks 7 - 1,500 baht to 2,500 baht
Stunning:
Looks 8 - 2,500 baht to 3,000 baht
Looks 9 - 3,000 baht to 5,000 baht
Perfect:
Looks 10 - They name the price, you accept or walk away.
Personality can play a big part, certainly you might be able to get a way with less. You will find out very fast, within the first 24 to 48 hours. Just talk to a lot of girls. Bargain and you will see what they are willing to accept. There can be a big difference in the asking price and what they will settle for. If it's slow, you can get very lucky. You can do just fine for 1,000 baht to 2,000 baht. To do better than fine, you may need to go higher.
For best bars, don't worry too much about that. The bars are up and down Sukhumvit for several miles. There's Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong if you are looking for a cluster of bars. You can see all three areas in one night, if you just browse real quickly through all of the bars and don't sit down in too many of them.
Soi Cowboy would be the best bang for the buck in my opinion. Nana would be 2nd and Patpong a distant 3rd. Nana does have some great woman, but they will be asking 3,000 baht ST and the lowest you might get is about 2,000 after bargaining. At least for the top of the line girls.
For the afternoon's there's the Beer Garden and for evenings, Gullivers and Bamboo Bar. There's the Pent, Boss, Hollywood Bangkok Club, Tunnel Club, CM2, Nana Disco, Spice Club. The Soi 33 bars, Livingstones Sports Bar (Soi 33). So many options, too many to list.
Hong Kong and Macau is great, but you will never find more options than you will find in BKK or Pattaya.
Have fun!
AT2
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]As always, the pages should be read in order, i.e., K11, L12, M13, etc.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Isn't she great ;)
Nice personality, good pool player (now) and lost a couple of pounds since end of 2006 and looking hot as ever!
She is a favorite of a good buddy of mine (non-ISG guy) who stays at G's once or twice a year, and I just forwarded one of your pictures of her to him. He'll eat his heart out and get a good laugh when he sees her!
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2] I've also heard about the stereotyping of the "nice" farang and the shitty Thai guys. Sorry, but that's mostly a myth too, in my observations. You can look the world over and find that shitty guy's are in good supply in all races/cultures. That's why they have restraining orders. But there are also gentlemen too, and I have met many of all races/cultures. I have Thai friends and contacts, both here in Hawaii and in Thailand, and they have perfectly great families and home lives.
Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]
I never said otherwise. But the fact is, the vast majority of working Thai ladies BELIEVE that farang men will treat them better, unless they have an unpleasant experience that alters that preconception.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]I never said otherwise. But the fact is, the vast majority of working Thai ladies BELIEVE that farang men will treat them better, unless they have an unpleasant experience that alters that preconception.[/QUOTE]
Member,
Point taken, although for what it's worth, the girls tell us Asian guy's that we are so much nicer than Farang men. There's a lot of telling you what you want to hear, that's involved too.
Take care .. I do enjoy your contributions.
AT2
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Member,
Point taken, although for what it's worth, the girls tell us Asian guy's that we are so much nicer than Farang men. There's a lot of telling you what you want to hear, that's involved too.
Take care .. I do enjoy your contributions.
AT2[/QUOTE]
They meant that you pay better. And from what I've seen of your posts, that seems to be true. BTW, that's not meant as a put-down, as that's in fact one of the major ways that p4p ladies measure how well they've been treated.
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2].....................
Below average to average:
Looks 0 to 3 - 300 baht or less. Opebo girls! Just a joke!
Looks 4 to 5 - 500 baht to 1,000 baht.
Above average to very attactive:
Looks 6 - 1,000 baht to 1,500 baht
Looks 7 - 1,500 baht to 2,500 baht
Stunning:
Looks 8 - 2,500 baht to 3,000 baht
Looks 9 - 3,000 baht to 5,000 baht
Perfect:
Looks 10 - They name the price, you accept or walk away.............
Have fun!
AT2[/QUOTE]
Not to make any fun on your report, could you please qualify the above with pictures to match the looks. As you well know, looks differs based on the beholder. A guideline will be very much appreciated.