German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Dufey; 1354559]Thank you for your well wishes. They are welcome.

I can see myself becoming an urban legend of a sad man going the club chasing a girl and spending all my money on them. I do not want that and this is why I am afraid of what I am letting myself get into. I just have to make sure I do not spend no more than I would on a normal club visit for me.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, there are many urban legends there out (I am one by myself) who can make you good company without feeling any shame. There is a club where the girls come to me to inform me if my girl has arrived or ask me when she does arrive. In this club no girl approaches me with the hope to get sex from me, I can sit for 10 hours and none of the girls around will ever come to me, with a few exception of the friends of my girl who would get to me to say hello, or to have a chat and a smoke when they want to rest. So more urban legend than that is hard, think about it and you will not feel alone in this kind of situation! LOL!

[QUOTE=Meeps77; 1355368]I fortunately don't have any issues since I'm still fairly young. But when I go on fkk trips I like to partake as much as possible. This normally starts off in the 5-8 sessions / day range in each of the first two days, then drops to 3-5 in the next two and down from there. Often by the 4th or 5th day I'm exhausted, but since I'm never exactly sure when I'll be back in make the most out of it. If I lived in Germany this wouldn't be an issue, but for now that's not the case.

My question is this. Have any of you used Viagra recreationally (with no ED)? What are the benefits / issues you've experienced?

M[/QUOTE]I have used Cialis for mongering trips. It is very helpful to be able to keep your erection going after 3-4 sessions. It does not give you more sensation or make you cum more. If anything, there are reports that they may inhibit ejaculation (which could be good for some, bad for others). You should try it and see. I have never needed it for civvie sex, but I am not usually fucking 4-5 girls in my civvie life!

[QUOTE=Smoky Jack;1355616]I have used Cialis for mongering trips. It is very helpful to be able to keep your erection going after 3-4 sessions. It does not give you more sensation or make you cum more. If anything, there are reports that they may inhibit ejaculation (which could be good for some, bad for others). You should try it and see. I have never needed it for civvie sex, but I am not usually fucking 4-5 girls in my civvie life![/QUOTE]Thanks Indy and smoky. You answered my next question about extra cum and sensation. Next question is where can I get some whilst in Germany? I could go to my local doctor in my own country I suppose but I'd rather not

[QUOTE=Meeps77;1355621]Thanks Indy and smoky. You answered my next question about extra cum and sensation. Next question is where can I get some whilst in Germany? I could go to my local doctor in my own country I suppose but I'd rather not[/QUOTE]Unfortunately in Germany you cannot by it without a prescription from a doctor. Solutions could be to buy it online and have it delivered to your hotel, there are sites that grant you fast deliveries or sometimes also the girls in the clubs have it and can sell to you, but this is not very common, you may have to ask 10 girls to find one who has it.

Best solution still is buying it online and have it delivered somewhere either your hotel in Germany if you take long trips or somewhere else in your home country.

[QUOTE=Meeps77;1355621]Thanks Indy and smoky. You answered my next question about extra cum and sensation. Next question is where can I get some whilst in Germany? I could go to my local doctor in my own country I suppose but I'd rather not[/QUOTE]You need a prescription.

HB

[QUOTE=Meeps77; 1355368]I fortunately don't have any issues since I'm still fairly young.

My question is this. Have any of you used Viagra recreationally (with no ED)? What are the benefits / issues you've experienced?

M[/QUOTE]Age isn't the issue with deciding to use Viagra or go without, all those hot naked women make it pretty easy to go without using V. What's the benefit of using V at a club? Say your driving down the autobahn and this hot blonde in a convertible waves at you as she flies past. V is the turbo under your hood in case she starts to get away. You don't always need it but its nice to have it handy.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1355631]You need a prescription.

HB[/QUOTE]

Depends on which country and if your willing to buy generics. I get mail order from India mailed to the US.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1355657]Depends on which country and if your willing to buy generics. I get mail order from India mailed to the US.[/QUOTE]I was talking about Germany. Sure you can mail order from various sources and countries.

HB

[QUOTE=Indi Companion; 1355628]Unfortunately in Germany you cannot by it without a prescription from a doctor. Solutions could be to buy it online and have it delivered to your hotel, there are sites that grant you fast deliveries or sometimes also the girls in the clubs have it and can sell to you, but this is not very common, you may have to ask 10 girls to find one who has it.

Best solution still is buying it online and have it delivered somewhere either your hotel in Germany if you take long trips or somewhere else in your home country.[/QUOTE]Buy online and delivery to Germany is not legal, and you could be up for a big fine. For me there is no issue as I pass through Thailand several times a year and can pick up many "prescription only" type stuff and also cheap copies / generics.

BTW, although Viagra / Kamagra has a much shorter half life (time to 50% effective) than Cialis / Apcalis, it is rather stronger and starts working faster. For me 100 mg is far too powerful and I would only dose with small fragments, when deciding to use. With girfriend, I do not use, as she would surely notice how come my dick got so hard so instantly, and also how come it stayed hard so long during the DATY. Girls do notice anything different. Be careful! With a Viagra small dose, you could be just looking at a girl in the lounge showing her ass rather sexily and get a hard on immediately. First time I got hard on just thinking about going to see the girl. Overdose with whole 100mg, and could have a beetroot face, and raging headache. Meanwhile, having tried Cialis, I don't notice much difference from normal erection strength and duration or maybe a slight difference.

Its quite comon for mongers at FKK to take multiple small doses throughout the day. With Viagra, even all the very old fat customers who look to be 70 to 80 can still fuck girls with good hard-ons.

Its useful to have the "turbo charge" particularly when trying a new girl at FKK who may prove to be less than ideal in the room. If a girl was hopeless or had stiff legs (dick scared) , or took an eternity to unskillfully apply a very tight condom, then apply very painful BBBJ, I would normally have lost the erection and sometimes been unable to fuck her. With a turbo charge I have still been able to get it off with catastrophic girls. With your favourite super sexy girls, it won't be necessary as they are an automatic turn on from the first tongue kiss. Its possible to keep fucking for a very long time with a "turbo-charge" too, but girls don't usually like guys to marathon fuck them.

This might sounds really dumb. My flight gets in around 8am, but the place I am staying isn't available until 6pm. I was thinking of spending a few hours in an FKK. Which one in the frankfurt area would be best for a nice long relaxing day? I'm up for a couple sessions, but which ones are ok with more loitering?

The best thing to do is to experiment and see what works best for you. There are variations from individual to individual. However, I've not heard of clinical findings that Viagra is stronger than Cialis, just that it doesn't last as long. The fact that with Viagra your response will vary from hour to hour might make it seem like it's stronger because the rate of change is more noticeable. In both cases it will take 1/2 hour to kick in so figure that in.

And by the way, going to your everyday doctor and asking for a prescription really should not be a problem. They hear such requests *all the time* Just tell him / her that you've been worrying about work (who doesn't?) and that anxiety sometimes seems to have an effect in bed. Your doctor can probably give you samples of both, and then a prescription for whatever works best. And if you have good insurance, it may cover some of the drug cost and it will be *much* less expensive than the mail order kind.

Better living through chemistry!

[QUOTE=Indi Companion;1355628]Best solution still is buying it online and have it delivered somewhere either your hotel in Germany if you take long trips or somewhere else in your home country.[/QUOTE]When you buy it online it might take a few weeks to get to the address you write down. You might complicate a trip by having a restricted product delivered to your hotel, it might make it way too early or way too late. Or the authorities would like to speak to you as to why your having a prescription medication delivered to an address in Germany without a prescription.

Buy it online, have it shipped to your house. It won't be dropped off because 'you' and only you have to sign for it at the post office. Then you bring the girlfriend home a nice necklace and tell her you mail ordered it for her, hence the post office run.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1355743]. And if you have good insurance, it may cover some of the drug cost and it will be *much* less expensive than the mail order kind.[/QUOTE]The stuff I get runs me around $1. 20 per 100mg's. I use 1/4 pieces throughout the day when at the clubs, I'll try to take a piece an hour before going on the hunt. I know many guys who's insurance covers all but 15 bucks a pill. A buck is much better than 15 anyday. Be warned though, many websites out there are based in russia and China, you won't know what your getting. There are several reports of Chinese companies using drywall material and coloring it blue to make a quick buck. Some of the stuff will give you headache's like there's no tomorrow. What good is that if you can't enjoy the girl? The stuff I get is from a major pharmaceutical manufacturer in India. And no, I'm not advertising what companies I've found that sell this product.

[QUOTE=Nick The G; 1354873]He says he will let the fates decide if he hooks up with me but for now he says he wants to get to know me as a friend first but that means seeing me outside the club which I know will not be business. And trying to see me more outside the club when he does not have his guaranteed-sex-for-money mindset on.

Let fate decide: the best way to avoid decisions and to avoid responsibility for ones life. But it sounds so overwhelmingly good![/QUOTE]Our aborted 12th visit together was consummated recently. She was pleased to see me in the club. We had several hours in the room. She took just 3 clients including me and made her money.

She had rung me to say we were going to go to a party or go for a drink when she finished so I waited patiently not knowing what would happen as the scheduled shift finished and she continued to work.

Then she says lets go. We leave to go out for a drink in a bar.

She actually said mirroring your words what you wrote me.

She say I come to club for fun and she comes to club for work. Think about it.

We sat in the bar for chatting knowing each other more ages and then said she had to leave. Snow was everywhere and she had hours to drive. I let her go and we had made dates for future and she came up with more opportunities to meet uP with her club girlfriends who all know us as a pair it seems.

It is hard seeing her work on the club spending social time with other customers and doing public affection but she tells me this is her job. I know in the room it does feel she fucks me as if I am not a customer as there are some services she does which I know are difficult to get.

She says we do more of these "dates" to know each other. Funny enough intimatcy past the odd kiss and hug was it

I guess I'm lucky, my cost is about $3 per 100 mg. Knowing it is from the original company and the convenience and safety of the local pharmacy is worth any marginal difference to me.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1355743]The best thing to do is to experiment and see what works best for you. There are variations from individual to individual. However, I've not heard of clinical findings that Viagra is stronger than Cialis, just that it doesn't last as long. The fact that with Viagra your response will vary from hour to hour might make it seem like it's stronger because the rate of change is more noticeable. In both cases it will take 1/2 hour to kick in so figure that in.[/QUOTE]Typically Viagra / kamagra is sold in 100mg while Cialis / Apcalis is sold as only 25 mg. Perhaps to discourage people breaking it up into small fragments and to make more money. Perhaps would be fairer to compare power of 1 quarter of a Viagra to a whole Cialis. Yes power could vary depending on the individual. It is reported that time to act is generally a bit shorter for Viagra.

Generics or "fake" varieties can lack quality control and vary in strength. Some fake Cialis can be strong and others like Apcalis can seem weak. Normal price for the real stuff is a lot higher. I have found Kamagra tabs a more reliable than some of the other fake/generics.