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KoreanChinese you still here buddy? I think we have like two months or so until senior?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683882]I think it was a mistake admitting you were a Korean American. Next time just say you're Korean. But surprised they even asked if you were a foreigner, might have been just his intuition / your accent / etc? .[/QUOTE]If he said he was Korean it would have been easily called out since he said he is a "kyopo with middling Korean language skills". No offense but if you're not Korean, or have not studied Korean for many years you can easily tell if someone isn't Korean by the way they speak, their accent, and intonation. This is coming from a Korean American who grew up in the states but studied Korean in Korea. After studying Korean for a couple years, even I can tell when someone isn't from Seoul by their accent / words or if they are a foreigner.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683884]Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.[/QUOTE]I find it weird that they even use those numbers. Should just be 100% real. Imagine if you bought a 65% real PS5 only to find out that it's just a PS4 that has games which are also available on the PS5 included. That would be a rip-off scam.

These women are essentially the same. It's weird to think about, since if they are worried about people recognizing them, then perhaps they just shouldn't be in the industry. That's my opinion anyways.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2683567]Have you tried YDP yourself?[/QUOTE]I do not like surprises so RLD is nice because I can see what I will get. YDP was impossible a few years ago, but recently have had some success. The girls inbetween the streets will almost always say yes. Maybe 3 girls in the glass houses is possible.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2683746]That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. You need to be Korean by blood AND Korean by birth, not OR.

There are mixed race Koreans that have lived in Korea their whole lives, only to be treated like a foreigner. Imagine going to the local market every day and having to reinvent yourself. How exhausting.

For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left.

Further down is Bean's bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry and East West Club. Bean works there full time and has three other girls rotate in- Kay, another old timer from the old Bridge Club, and some other lady I'd never seen before. It's pretty small, so four women crowded in there is a bit much, but there is a separate room off sight. Bean still looks cute and still has that asset, but has put on a small amount of weight- like every girl on the hill. Kay looked about the same with those huge tits, but she only works weekends and I didn't get to partake. Shame because she's a sweetheart and one of my ATF.

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.

The last place is Nymph and the 'lady' that works there is one that I could swear was a tranny from years ago. I've never partaken, but I could swear she's been on the hill since 2003 and was one of the first trannies.

At any rate, that's a rundown of the slowly dwindling hill scene. Is it terrible? Not really. Trannies are slowly driving out what business there is and what they don't take over, the shop owners have closed up. The girls are aging and there are no new ones, but it can still be fun. Other than the music blaring from the Grand Ole Opry, the hill itself is long past it's prime and pretty quiet.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656614]I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.[/QUOTE]Travelled up to DDC this past week and it's still pretty much the same. Girls there range from 2-8 on a scale to ten.

It was still early, right at sunset, so about half the shops were closed. There were about fourteen of fifteen girls and I saw about five or six girls that looked decent.

The girl I spent time with was slightly tall (5'9" or 5'10") and had a nice body with long legs, but acted kind of doe-like and reminded me of an anime character. She was sweet, it was more transactional and not very uninhibited, but she could warm up with time.

Overall, not bad for any foriegner living in Uijeongbu or north, but I wouldn't travel 1. 5 hours one way for what could be just an average time, unless you're an explorer and / or horndog.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683884]Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.[/QUOTE]Taco Yaki, right on. Shink-yul is konglish for synchronization, isn't it? I've seen that phrase used on the OP adverts and in some of the user reviews as well. However, I don't have any experience with the OPs.

I don't use the OPs because they are not only more expensive but also less likely to service a white guy. Therefore I've only ever bothered calling Hyugetels and Gunmas that offer Thai women.

I like that the Thais in Korea tend to have fair skin and east Asian features. Also, the Thais that service foreigners tend be really positive. I've had nothing but good experiences with these women.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683887]KoreanChinese you still here buddy? I think we have like two months or so until senior?[/QUOTE]I'm here! Ya! Counting down the days until we can meet!

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2684623]For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left.

Further down is Bean's bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry and East West Club. Bean works there full time and has three other girls rotate in- Kay, another old timer from the old Bridge Club, and some other lady I'd never seen before. It's pretty small, so four women crowded in there is a bit much, but there is a separate room off sight. Bean still looks cute and still has that asset, but has put on a small amount of weight- like every girl on the hill. Kay looked about the same with those huge tits, but she only works weekends and I didn't get to partake. Shame because she's a sweetheart and one of my ATF.

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.

The last place is Nymph and the 'lady' that works there is one that I could swear was a tranny from years ago. I've never partaken, but I could swear she's been on the hill since 2003 and was one of the first trannies.

At any rate, that's a rundown of the slowly dwindling hill scene. Is it terrible? Not really. Trannies are slowly driving out what business there is and what they don't take over, the shop owners have closed up. The girls are aging and there are no new ones, but it can still be fun. Other than the music blaring from the Grand Ole Opry, the hill itself is long past it's prime and pretty quiet.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks, even if the news is gloomy about the legendary hill.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2683699]Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.[/QUOTE]Bokehnikon, you're on the right track. Calling is the right move. You'll get a much quicker response if you call rather than text message. A lot of officetels seem to outright ignore all texts.

If you want service, be prepared to make a handful of calls and also make sure to call around to different neighborhoods. I have a feeling that a lot of the officetels in a single neighborhood are operated by the same group of people. So a no from one officetel, might mean a no from the others.

Regardless, keep calling and I'm sure that you'll find at least one that will make good.

The lack of escorts lately kills me. Used to have so many good non-Korean options from 2016-2019 but they've vanished due to covid probably.

Now MR is populated with these post op transgenders claiming to be from random southeast Asian countries like Bhutan, Malaysia, etc while trying to charge 300 k per shot on an incall. Then they have the audacity to be selective about the nationality of the people they see. They absolutely refuse to do outcalls which leads me to believe that they are not independent. Probably have a Korean handler who will not let them leave their areas like most Korean handlers do.

The remaining escorts are 45 year old Koreans with fake pictures who charge insane fees like 500,000 per hour.

Anybody have a good connection where I can get something decent to take a trip to me on a outcall? Living 2 hours away from Seoul in the middle of nowhere sucks. I can find plenty of "massage" spots near me where I simply walk in and pay 120 k for BBBJCFS with a decent Thai but I miss the intimacy of an escort coming to my home or hotel. Willing to pay for the roundtrip transportation.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2684756]I'm here! Ya! Counting down the days until we can meet![/QUOTE]Hey guys, I will be in town around mid June, I would also be willing to do a meet up as well. My Korean is descent as I have studied it back in the states and as a gyopo (Korean expat), I'm sure I can be of assistance to searching for the best options. Keep me in mind when you become seniors.

[QUOTE=Jjmanse;2685805]Hey guys, I will be in town around mid June, I would also be willing to do a meet up as well. My Korean is descent as I have studied it back in the states and as a gyopo (Korean expat), I'm sure I can be of assistance to searching for the best options. Keep me in mind when you become seniors..[/QUOTE]Likewise, I will also be in Seoul for most of June. While my Korean is limited (I plan on studying Korean with a tutor for a month and a half straight after finals week), I'm sure I can assist in some way. If you guys go somewhere else, such as Tokyo, I can help you out or arrange a meet-up there in the future if we happen to be in Tokyo at the same time because I am more familiar with the scene there.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2685111]The lack of escorts lately kills me. Used to have so many good non-Korean options from 2016-2019 but they've vanished due to covid probably.

Now MR is populated with these post op transgenders claiming to be from random southeast Asian countries like Bhutan, Malaysia, etc while trying to charge 300 k per shot on an incall. Then they have the audacity to be selective about the nationality of the people they see. They absolutely refuse to do outcalls which leads me to believe that they are not independent. Probably have a Korean handler who will not let them leave their areas like most Korean handlers do.

The remaining escorts are 45 year old Koreans with fake pictures who charge insane fees like 500,000 per hour.

Anybody have a good connection where I can get something decent to take a trip to me on a outcall? Living 2 hours away from Seoul in the middle of nowhere sucks. I can find plenty of "massage" spots near me where I simply walk in and pay 120 k for BBBJCFS with a decent Thai but I miss the intimacy of an escort coming to my home or hotel. Willing to pay for the roundtrip transportation.[/QUOTE]Ahh the Korean escort on MR who charges insane fees, I think I know who you're talking about. I saw her a few years ago and was shocked to see a much older women than what was on her ad, still paid the insane fee because I was still new to the scene and was afraid to walk away.

BTW do you have any info on Hana or Suji on MR? I was planning on seeing Hana actually a few years ago, but complications arose regarding the incall and settled for the aforementioned escort. Was considering seeing them again if I can't get an reservation with opstar in June.

There are a few non-Korean escort on MR that are white and do outcall, not sure if you're into them.

But yes I agree, the lack of escorts in general is sad. Hopefully there are more escorts that cater to foreigners in the future.