Angeles City

Right now AC would be called dead, in practically every bar the girls would outnumber guys 4 to 1 if not more but nevertheless the p[rices would remain the same, and given the penalties for sneak out bgiven my limited experience it would seem hard to achieve.

I have on offdays ie days where my libido was low staked out the street waiting for girls comming home from work and there are deinately opportunties, but it confl; icts with my personality as I am impatient and I don't want to pick the left overs just so I can save a bit of money so that seems a hard way of doing things. I also haven't trried the buy a ladies drink and pass on my details and play the number games as I'm a guy that when I want to get alid I will get laid not wait around for when the girls get money desperate, but I was lucky enuff to get passed some details of girls from a fellow member so I will invest a bit of time in that option.

My experiences with girls in AC is that in the 2000-3000 range you would get girls as attractive as girls in EDSA, makati, subic or Cebu for the same or cheaper price.

But one of the activities for me in AC is to bar hop in the perimiter bars ie in the 1200-1500 range trying to find a hidden gem, so far I have bar fined two, one turned out to be a sweet but disspointing star fish, the other had hidden stretchmarks, and I nwas unlucky enuff to bar fine her as her period just started, and even tho they could be technically a runner, the sweet way in which they asked to be released early made it hard for me to be upset, never the less I just gave them 100 taxi rather than a sizable tip.

And hence thats the problem with botom feeding in that whist it possible to find hidden gems most tend to be dissppointments, but then the dissappointment is only 35USD for 4-6hrs company and unrushed sex I can't see why people get so upset about runners. I would rather have a runner leave rather have her share my bad in a bad mood.

So when you compare AC 35 USD for unrushed sex up to a max of 70-80 for a model with a good chance of overnights as most girls who wanted to leave early used the baby as the excuse / reason, compared to vietnam 30usd / 1hr at a local brothel, Thailand soi 6 35usd I hr, Cambodia 30usd 1-2hrs it doesn't make AC looks so bad pricewise.

Speaking of pricing, I'm kinda tired of all the blame being places on the koreans, japanese etc, because in my home turf ie vietnam, its the white guys who are guilty of overpaying, and being the cause of hyper inflation but I would be a fool to blame it on a general racial class. In EVERY racial group tehre are the guys who are the cheap charlies ie try and be cheap to the point of ruining your vacation, guys who are worldly and price savvy, guys who have the money and don't mind paying a bit extra, guys who don't have the money but try and use money to buy the girls attention and finally guys who are stupid with money and who use the excuse because its more expensive in their own country. To me the last two types are the ones least worthy of respect, neverthe less in AC and in Thailand where everything is well exposed, then each to there own.

All I can say is that if anyone has any hidden gems ie places or cities that hasnt be written about, I would suggest that it remain unbroadcasted.

In the end of the day whilst it cannot be denied that your week millionaires / overspenders contribute to the price inflation, but it would be one of many contributing factors, so as one tiny leaf in this current of humanity it it is predicted that in 10yrs time a bar fine will be 4000, then all I need to do is keep ahead of of the price inflation, because thats all one can do, no point about complaining about the stupid majority who will continue to do what they will do, and to be secretive if one was to find any gems.

Guys are getting upset about xyz overpaying, but if for example I take a girl for 1500, then I take her bar hopping, take her to dinner at a italian place take her to the movie and I spend 1000, which is never reported, but if I was to take her to the hotel and we have a relaxing night watching tv and fucking, then I report that I tipped her 1000, then I'd be flamed as being someone who is ruining the market. The girls would rather have a extra tipp than being dragged around to places they don't really enjoy anyway.

My two cents

Just because you have millions or billions don't mean you should over pay for something just cause you can. If a billionaire wants a cheeseburger and it cost $3. 50. Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1359420]Just because you have millions or billions don't mean you should over pay for something just cause you can. If a billionaire wants a cheeseburger and it cost $3. 50. Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?[/QUOTE]Nope, but he will pay the 10 for the better looking burger with more toppings that actually uses real hamburger meat. Sorta like the McDonalds Burger are the cheap 1000-2000 Peso girls and the high end restaurant burgers are the 3000-4000 Peso girls. Some people may settle for 2 hamburgers rather then the fancier burger. There is no wrong way to do it, just do it the way you want to do it.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1359420]Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?[/QUOTE]If he wants to pay $10, let him pay $10, or go to [url]www.internationalburgerprice.com[/url] And predict / discuss if his outrageous spending habits will result in Burgerking and McDonalds doubling their burgerprices. Or go out and have another burger, with cheese.

[QUOTE=VaderBule; 1359192]I guess the differences between our circumstances and that we choose to to go to AC are a big leveller.

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Let's respect the fellow mongerer as just that, a fellow mongerer. No judging (and this isn't directed at FE48 or anyone else in particular) no sniping at each other. Let's support each other in our shared hobby instead of trying to score cheap points. Everyone has opinions, and everyone has different levels of experience. If someone's opinion differs from yours, who cares? Don't abuse them for it! If someone gives factually wrong info, correct them in a respectful way with a link to a good source of fact.

The keyboard warrior troll does nothing to raise the level of discussion or enjoyment of our little hobby.[/QUOTE]This particular "contributor" has been on my ignore list for a long time (in fact he's the only one) but this feature does not work when someone replies to his twaddle.

"Fast Eddie" has not contributed a single Field Report or photograph to any thread in this site. His only contribution over the past years has been short messages filled with grammatical and spelling errors and full of negative comments about others. I suspect he has never left his keyboard and only travels in his mind. I am also pretty sure that he will try to send me a pm filled with invective, which will be blocked because of the ignore function <grin

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1359420]Just because you have millions or billions don't mean you should over pay for something just cause you can. If a billionaire wants a cheeseburger and it cost $3. 50. Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?[/QUOTE]That one should arbitrarily go around overpaying for anything. What I am saying is if I have a hottie standing if front of me and she wants 3000 for overnight and I'm really smitten with her I won't pop for the 3K. I might try one shot at a lower price but if I want her I'm not letting her walk. I might feel a tinge of guilt for overpaying but I'll get over it back at the room.

No one can stop people to overpay.
The only thing one can do is to keep the hidden gems secret and only share with those well known.

I doubt someone would pay a girl 3000 pesos when she is asking for 2000 pesos or less. Let's be realistic here. No matter where you're from, you're not that stupid. If people are overpaying, it could be because the girls are actually asking for that price. There really isn't a "how to monger guide" available if you don't know about these websites. In fact, I doubt there is one for people that can't read English huh? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I will be making my first trip out to AC next month. Will be there Jan 4 until the 12. Will anyone else be there at that time.

Where is the best place for me to exchange my money. I would like to get the best exchange rate possible.

Thanks.

Chris

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1359420]Just because you have millions or billions don't mean you should over pay for something just cause you can. If a billionaire wants a cheeseburger and it cost $3. 50. Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?[/QUOTE]These guys are weak in the face of pussy. Period. That's why they do it. Probably never get any action they don't pay for. That's fine, not everyone's a playboy, but it fucks things up for the recreational monger.

Of course they would never walk into a McDonald's in AC and hand over double the asking rate for a hamburger "because it's still cheaper than what I pay at home." Everyone would think they were an idiot for doing so. But when it comes to mongering, somehow it becomes okay.

They forget that they're purchasing a service and instead think they're buying love.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1359534]They forget that they're purchasing a service and instead think they're buying love.[/QUOTE]I stick with the "Buying Love" camp; at least that's what I tell them every - time - I -"OH GAWD I LOVE U!"

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1359420]Just because you have millions or billions don't mean you should over pay for something just cause you can. If a billionaire wants a cheeseburger and it cost $3. 50. Should he pay 10 dollars just for the hell of it?[/QUOTE]Anyone who overpays just because they have the money was born into it, they didn't earn it. Anyone who earned that kind of money doesn't throw it away or overpay just because they can, look at Rockefeller who came from obscurity and obtained great wealth and power, he was extremely tight and did everything he could to spend less than the market rate for whatever he wanted. Even though he could afford to pay many times the market rate, only towards the end did he give money away for civil projects and even then it was a calculated move to divert public animosity away from him and an attempt to gain positive public opinion. Only those born with a silver spoon in their mouth and allowed to keep it because of a weakened inheritance tax structure (I thought we fought a revolution against inherited wealth and power, I'm reminded of the marriage of Figaro, what did you do to deserve the wealth and power but take the time to be born).

Anyone who throws it away just because they can is either a fool or they were born into it, they didn't earn it on their own.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1359580]Anyone who overpays just because they have the money was born into it, they didn't earn it. Anyone who earned that kind of money doesn't throw it away or overpay just because they can,

Anyone who throws it away just because they can is either a fool or they were born into it, they didn't earn it on their own.[/QUOTE]I don't see it that way.

There are MANY guys who work HARD to put aside "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off" money each year to let off steam. So when they go on vacation. They do not want or need to sweat the small stuff. That is how they blow off steam to sort of speak.

There are many Guys back home. Who would say we [B]ALL[/B] Are fools spending 1k on flight, flying 12 to 14 hrs to a 3rd world shit hole to pay for a girl. Having nothing tangible to show, throwing away good hard earned money. And only a fool would do so. So how one spends money is very subjective.

The fact that a girl asks 3k and a guy has the money / budget so he doesn't TRY to haggle her down to 2k. Is just the same.

There are people on every stratosphere of earnings. In the Past BEFORE the internet / youtube. AC was mainly a "word of mouth" location. So it was generally the same "Budget" type of monger coming.

Once it got INTERNATIONAL pubilicty. It changed AC forever. Forever? . Yes forever. There is no turning back the clock. You now have "Upscale" tourist who can afford the higher prices coming and they will only increase.

AAAH! The good ol days when a girl had nothing to do but make you happy. I remember my uniforms were always ironed and my boots shined to perfection. Girls would have nothing to do all day but wait for you in the room and watch TV till you got home. Those where some fun times. Never had a runner back then either But they sure were harder to get rid of

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1359534]Of course they would never walk into a McDonald's in AC and hand over double the asking rate for a hamburger "because it's still cheaper than what I pay at home."[/QUOTE]Not a very accurate analogy, given that I've never known anyone offer to pay twice the rate that a girl asked for! A more accurate analogy would be if there was a McDonalds selling burgers for $3. 50 and next door was a gourmet burger shop selling top of the line burgers for $5. 00. You'ld be telling everyone not to buy the posh nosh because you can't afford it.