[QUOTE=XXL;2510523]I can recommend Tecfit Jardins for EMS training. I paid just over 400 R for 4 sessions (1 session a week).[/QUOTE]Thanks XXL, appreciate it.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2510523]I can recommend Tecfit Jardins for EMS training. I paid just over 400 R for 4 sessions (1 session a week).[/QUOTE]Thanks XXL, appreciate it.
[QUOTE=XXL;2510459]Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.
So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.[/QUOTE]I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.
You can also use Uber cards if you don't want to use cash up front.
[url]https://www.uber.com/br/en/gift-cards/[/url]
[url]https://www.uber.com/br/en/business/features/gift-cards/[/url]
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2510620]In Brazil Uber has a cash option so you don't have to use a credit card. I always use my credit card but the option to use cash is available.[/QUOTE]Yes luckily you can pay cash. However, the purpose of using a credit card is to avoid the hassle (and vicious circle) of carrying enough small change. How do you generate small change? By paying cash elsewhere, so you end using cash a lot more than you would.
Incidentally, Ueber in Brazil has a very bizarre feature in case drivers have no change. I tended a 50-R banknote to pay for a 10-R ride but the driver told me he had no change and I had better pay on the next ride! A very interesting clearing feature. As it happened though, when I called the next ride Ueber asked me "you still owe this amount, do you want to settle now?" I said yes and lo and behold, my credit card was accepted. In other words my credit card got through on the delayed payment. Right after that it was rejected again on the upfront payment for the next ride.
[QUOTE=The Critic;2510699]I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.
[/QUOTE]I've been using this card in Brazil for two and a half months now. Uber has also prompted me to install two-step authorization but without making it a requirement. What it often did until a couple of weeks ago was to send a verification SMS before the ride could begin. It did so quite often, at least every third ride. Now it has stopped doing so for whatever reason, maybe that's not a good sign. I'll be in Peru a week from now so I'm going to pay cash until then. Once in Peru I'll delete my account and start from scratch with my Peru number and another credit card. Even creating a new Uber account is tricky because from what I have read if you use the same phone number OR the same e-mail OR the same credit card Uber may block you. I understand the fraud issues but couldn't they have a real online customer service, at least for power users like me? They're still not profitable after all those years, no wonder if they estrange their best customers through kafkaesque practices.
I'm not too keen on the Uber gift card idea. What if I buy a gift card an Uber rejects it like it did my credit card?
[QUOTE=SnoopySpain;2510457]Wow fantastic experience.
And out of curiosity how much did it cost you to be with them?[/QUOTE]Approx $2200 USD.
A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again — more than likely not.
[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2510549]Please share the name of the boate.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I don't remember the name. Wasn't paying attention since I was too busy checking everything out. I was able to track down my last address for the Uber that evening though so I hope that helps.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/RsN7kbqaTeqF4ki76[/URL] are. Augusta, 792 - Cerqueira César, São Paulo. SP, 01304-001, Brazil.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2510733]Approx $2200 USD.
A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.[/QUOTE]Damn, that is expensive. I assumed they stayed with you for 3 days?
I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).
The most cost effective approach at the clubs is to take WhatsApps of the hot chics and arrange for them to come to your place the next day. If they come to your place, the rate is still 500/hr. Some will want you to send Uber to pick them up and take them home after the session. Uber rate is so minimal in SP so who cares.
However, negotiation for a longer stay is more tricky. During my Thanksgiving trip, one Connection chic who spent several hours making out / dancing with me at the club with no charge came to my place after the club and stayed from around 5 am to around 9 am and was happy with 1,000. She could have stayed until noon for 1,300 but I was too sleepy so I sent her away.
Now I am preparing for my next SP trip from Christmas to the New Year weekend. I want to try a longer-stay arrangement to find out whether I will like it better than the hourly arrangement.
I inquired a few chics for their all-day (24-hour) rates. A hot Scandallo chic quoted me 2,000. A PA chic quoted 2,400. One clubmodel chic asked for 3,000. One SPLove chic asked for 3,000.
I am thinking maybe it's best to keep a chic for fun during the afternoon and go to dinner with her and then back to my place for more fun. Early AM, she can go back to her place to sleep and I will sleep alone. I will be too tired to do anything with her after certain hours anyway so there's no point to keep her overnight. I tend to sleep better alone anyway. So hypothetically, I will negotiate a 12-hour session. She comes to my place in the afternoon and stay 12 hours with me and I pay her 1,500. I think 1,500 is a good deal for a 12-hour stay.
I would love to receive thoughts from others who are more experienced with longer-term arrangement in SP.
Cheers. SP is a paradise on earth for young and beautiful pussies with GFE charm.
When I have time, I will do a comparison between SP and European FKKs in a separate post.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2510733]Approx $2200 USD.
A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.[/QUOTE]2,200 USD extremely well spent my friend. To put things into perspectives, when you are back in the US, a hot chic will quote you 1,000 USD for one hour and even at that exorbitant rate, her service / attitude still may not be GFE. In SP, I can get a chic equally hot with GFE service / attitude for 1/10 of the price, at $100 USD (500 reals) per hour. SP is a paradise for me.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2510860]I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).[/QUOTE]Given the current exchange rate, if you're trying to pull a top Scandallo girl for 500 reals, that's like $100. To be frank, you're low balling. No wonder what you're getting is so-so service as they're probably annoyed at you and look upon you as being kind of cheap. Just being honest. Now it's your money, but for an hourly toss, you should try sweetening the deal some. Paying more is no guarantee of better service, but constantly low balling sure isn't a winner either. You have to find the sweet spot for the joint you're working. Besides, your own advice doesn't even make any sense. You say no need to ever pay more than 500 reals for GFE in Sao Paulo, but then you yourself reported that you aren't getting GFE for what you're paying! So, which is it? Maybe you think that's how it "ought" to be. But your experience doesn't appear to bear that out according to your own words. I think you would be better off sticking with the clinicas for what you want to pay. But then, in my opinion, the clinica girls don't look as good. But, I did find their service to be good at much lower prices. And yeah, maybe you might do better with the Scandallo types by trying to arrange for something longer at an overall higher payout to them. But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie. I mean, look at it this way. When the exchange rate was 3 to 1, 500 reals was what the lower end of the Scandallo girls were accepting! You're going to need to up your game man, or search elsewhere, like at the clinicas. I'm just telling you how it is. You need to be ready to pay more in order to get a Scandallo hottie to bang your lights out (at Connection you can and should pay less than at Scandallo)!
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2510860]I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).
The most cost effective approach at the clubs is to take WhatsApps of the hot chics and arrange for them to come to your place the next day. If they come to your place, the rate is still 500/hr. Some will want you to send Uber to pick them up and take them home after the session. Uber rate is so minimal in SP so who cares.
However, negotiation for a longer stay is more tricky. During my Thanksgiving trip, one Connection chic who spent several hours making out / dancing with me at the club with no charge came to my place after the club and stayed from around 5 am to around 9 am and was happy with 1,000. She could have stayed until noon for 1,300 but I was too sleepy so I sent her away.
Now I am preparing for my next SP trip from Christmas to the New Year weekend. I want to try a longer-stay arrangement to find out whether I will like it better than the hourly arrangement..[/QUOTE]I am very interested to hear what is your experience there during Christmas and New Years. Was planning to go there then, but got to wait till Jan. For the prices of the longer term 24 hours, the prices you mentioned are what I was quoted also. When I was there back in August, a Connection girl wanted 1200 and said she will stay for however long I want her to be. Careful though, make sure she keeps her word. And then there is this girl from clubmodel who I met a few times last years for long stays. Wanted 1500 for it, but back in August asked for 3000 for it. I laughed and never contacted her again. So 1200-2500 is reasonable. If she is very pretty and we have chemistry after our initial meet I would agree to 3000 also. I think for those that are more good looking will not budge from under 1200, but of course you can try to low end them, and they will counter you with what they want. But do meet them first for 1 hour or so so they get to know you and they will be more acceptable to lesser price if they find they like you and have chemistry.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2510879]Given the current exchange rate, if you're trying to pull a top Scandallo girl for 500 reals, that's like $100. To be frank, you're low balling. No wonder what you're getting is so-so service as they're probably annoyed at you and look upon you as being kind of cheap. Just being honest. Now it's your money, but for an hourly toss, you should try sweetening the deal some. Paying more is no guarantee of better service, but constantly low balling sure isn't a winner either. You have to find the sweet spot for the joint you're working. Besides, your own advice doesn't even make any sense. You say no need to ever pay more than 500 reals for GFE in Sao Paulo, but then you yourself reported that you aren't getting GFE for what you're paying! So, which is it? Maybe you think that's how it "ought" to be. But your experience doesn't appear to bear that out according to your own words. I think you would be better off sticking with the clinicas for what you want to pay. But then, in my opinion, the clinica girls don't look as good. But, I did find their service to be good at much lower prices. And yeah, maybe you might do better with the Scandallo types by trying to arrange for something longer at an overall higher payout to them. But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie. I mean, look at it this way. When the exchange rate was 3 to 1, 500 reals was what the lower end of the Scandallo girls were accepting! You're going to need to up your game man, or search elsewhere, like at the clinicas. I'm just telling you how it is. You need to be ready to pay more in order to get a Scandallo hottie to bang your lights out (at Connection you can and should pay less than at Scandallo)![/QUOTE]Let me clarify my previous post. When I went back to reread my previous post, I realized that my writing could cause some misunderstanding but it was then too late to edit (ISG only allows editing within 1 hour of posting).
At 500/ hour rate, I was getting lots of 8-9 chics with wonderful GFE service (FKK Globe level / standard of GFE) at Scandallo and Connection. The chic who did 300/ HR at Scandallo and the chic who did 450/ HR at Connection offered such rates to start. I didn't bother to bargain below 500. To me, 500/ HR for an 8-9 with GFE is an unbelievable deal already. Remember, before visiting SP, my standard bearer for GFE pricing is 280 CHF / hour at FKK Globe (3 times the current price at Scandallo / Connection).
After several days at Scandallo and Connection, my conclusion is 500/ HR is the current market price for an 8-9 with GFE service. No bargaining was necessary. Lots of 8-9s offered 500/hr to start and I gladly accepted. Any chics who offer below 500/ HR may be a risk for not delivering GFE (FKK Globe level's GFE). At the current market, any chics who demand above 500/hr are pricing themselves out of the market. These chics spoke some English and thought they could charge a gringo like me above market price.
I like visiting Scandallo and Connection better than the websites. On my whole trip, I only tried one on-line chic (from ClubModel) at 500/ HR and her service was not up to my GFE standard. After that, I didn't even bother going back to online. At the clubs, I could chat and feel the vibes for GFE and usually, I gauged correctly. The chics who behaved GFE outside the room would likely be GFE inside the room. With the online chics, I couldn't gauge the GFE vibes via texting as accurately as in-person and face-to-face flirting.
On my next trip, I will try Bomboa. I didn't know that Bomboa was already open during my last trip.
Currently, SP is a paradise for me. At FKK Globe back in 2019 and before, I was spending at least 1,200 CHF a day (four 1-hour sessions per day). Now at Scandallo, I am having the same fun for much less and in a much more luxurious club with much better food selection, and no second-hand smoking. The real beauty of SP, I believe, is in longer-term arrangements at my luxury apartment and fine dining with the chics at the most luxurious restaurants in SP. I will try some all-day arrangements on my next trip to SP.
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2510917]Let me clarify my previous post. When I went back to reread my previous post, I realized that my writing could cause some misunderstanding but it was then too late to edit (ISG only allows editing within 1 hour of posting).
At 500/ hour rate, I was getting lots of 8-9 chics with wonderful GFE service (FKK Globe level / standard of GFE) at Scandallo and Connection. The chic who did 300/ HR at Scandallo and the chic who did 450/ HR at Connection offered such rates to start. I didn't bother to bargain below 500. To me, 500/ HR for an 8-9 with GFE is an unbelievable deal already. Remember, before visiting SP, my standard bearer for GFE pricing is 280 CHF / hour at FKK Globe (3 times the current price at Scandallo / Connection).
After several days at Scandallo and Connection, my conclusion is 500/ HR is the current market price for an 8-9 with GFE service. No bargaining was necessary. Lots of 8-9s offered 500/hr to start and I gladly accepted. Any chics who offer below 500/ HR may be a risk for not delivering GFE (FKK Globe level's GFE). At the current market, any chics who demand above 500/hr are pricing themselves out of the market. These chics spoke some English and thought they could charge a gringo like me above market price.
I like visiting Scandallo and Connection better than the websites. On my whole trip, I only tried one on-line chic (from ClubModel) at 500/ HR and her service was not up to my GFE standard. After that, I didn't even bother going back to online. At the clubs, I could chat and feel the vibes for GFE and usually, I gauged correctly. The chics who behaved GFE outside the room would likely be GFE inside the room. With the online chics, I couldn't gauge the GFE vibes via texting as accurately as in-person and face-to-face flirting..[/QUOTE]That re-write gives quite a different impression. Like the complete opposite. It has been well over a year since I have been to Sao Paulo. At that time, I believe that the exchange rate was like 4 to 1, if I recall correctly. No way was a top Scandallo girl going to accept 500 reals for an hour. But, that was pre-pandemic times too. I'm sure all the girls are a lot more "thirsty" to earn at this time. For me, compared to Switzerland, Brazil was already an unbelievable deal pre-pandemic. I've always believed the cost of a piece of ass (and everything else) was way too much in Switzerland. Especially when I could just go to Germany and fuck the same quality of girls for half the price. Yes, I am one of the ones who doesn't believe that the girls working the top clubs in Switzerland look better than the ones in Germany or provide better service. But no need to have that debate here in this thread. Look, I'm glad you're having a great time in Brazil at pandemic pricing! Clinicas got to be dirt cheap! Wish I was there. I could go, but I've decided to wait at least until the vaccines are widely rolled out around the world.
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2510831]Damn, that is expensive. I assumed they stayed with you for 3 days?[/QUOTE]Yes. From Friday evening till Sunday late afternoon.
I like the getting to know each other part. Not a wham bam thank you ma'am kinda of dude. So, to keep trying different girls really doesn't do it for me.
Plus like "DiverOyster" said. A hot chick in the USA would charge me $1000 for a hour. I live in a city where the quality isn't great and I can say that I actually got way more than my money's worth. Escorts in my town charge $200-500 per hour and they are fat fucking starfish with no GFE skills whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2511027]Yes. From Friday evening till Sunday late afternoon.
I like the getting to know each other part. Not a wham bam thank you ma'am kinda of dude. So, to keep trying different girls really doesn't do it for me.
Plus like "DiverOyster" said. A hot chick in the USA would charge me $1000 for a hour. I live in a city where the quality isn't great and I can say that I actually got way more than my money's worth. Escorts in my town charge $200-500 per hour and they are fat fucking starfish with no GFE skills whatsoever.[/QUOTE]That is reasonable then for 3 days and $2200. I thought it was only for 1 day. Good deal.
Hi guys just wondering if any boots on the ground can report any busty Asian-Latinas given the high percentage of Asians in SP. Looking for the best of both worlds. Thanks for any replies.