Seoul

[QUOTE=Pranked;2686884]Visited Lyra (formerly known as Castle?) on Easter Sunday in mid-afternoon. Had trouble finding precise directions on this form, but it's pretty easy. Exit Seolleung metro, walk past McDonalds, and then turn left on the short street 48; you'll see it on right before the road T's. Can confirm 310 k upon entry; I tried to negotiate at the counter but they were having none of it.

Was led up to an empty room to drop my bag, then into the main room with the girl. Met Areum. Was happy to see she was good looking; not as skinny as some Koreans, but not chubby either; decent fake tits; said she was 28 and looked it too. Took an unrushed sensual table shower with body-to-body gliding and sucking all over, especially the stick and berries. After the shower we moved to the bed for more foreplay, BJ-applied-condom, and then the full act. She couldn't take an actual hard-deep pounding (I'm no Mandingo / Danny the but also not Asian), so slow-and-easy was the race. I sometimes take time to pop but Areum was a good sport, let me flip her around, and continued the turned-on act until release. This was my first Seoul adventure. Overall it was a quite pleasant experience, though at the price I still would have appreciated an actual massage.[/QUOTE]For 310 k I was given a pathetic lady who was 45+.

Awful service, hurried up incessantly and was awful to look at. Next time I go, I will call this out explicitly and see if they give me a good provider, else I will walk away instead of trying to be nice and she'll out 310 k. This is a ridiculous price for such a poor experience. I felt scoring at King Watpho was a much better option, the girls are better looking and the massage is good too.

I am assuming you are a Korean, that's why you got a decent looking option.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2687437]I wonder what they use to measure the 6 months of activity. How active do you have to be during that time?[/QUOTE]If you look at the FAQs, you only have to be a forum member for 6 months and have 25 posts. It doesn't say there is a req. To be regularly active.

Last week I decided I'd like to add some Hyugetels to my list of "places I am allowed to visit".

I figured it would be nice to have more options available, and thus I followed my own advice and called upwards of twenty. From all of those calls I got a green light from only two Hyugetels.

One at Gangnam station was willing to offer service, but needed to check in with the providers first. I was fairly certain that they would approve me, because they had hired women I had slept with at other establishments in the past, but among their current lineup were women I had never seen before. Unfortunately, none were willing to join me. I'll try back again when their lineup changes. Anyway, it was nice to get a maybe rather than an outright no.

The other, near Seolleung station, was quick to offer service. As far as I could tell, it was a brand new ad (I had certainly never seen it before), which may explain why they were willing to get me in the door.

Without any reviews posted on Opstar, they may have expected business to be slow and were ready to do whatever it takes to get a new customer. I was happy to take advantage and be among their first.

From start to finish the experience was great. After requesting a woman, course, and an extra option I was asked to provide a picture of my ID card. Not all Hyugetels require guests to send ID, but I've done it enough that it's no longer a cause for concern. The Hyugetel then followed up by sending me their address, and later when I arrived I called to request the building door code and room number. It's all par for the course and it went exactly as expected. More importantly, the service offered behind closed doors was great and I have every intention of returning. 40 minutes of shower, kissing, rimming, DATY, BBBJ, and CIP for 120,000.

As always, it's nice to have more options.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2687699]For 310 k I was given a pathetic lady who was 45+.

Awful service, hurried up incessantly and was awful to look at. Next time I go, I will call this out explicitly and see if they give me a good provider, else I will walk away instead of trying to be nice and she'll out 310 k. This is a ridiculous price for such a poor experience. I felt scoring at King Watpho was a much better option, the girls are better looking and the massage is good too.

I am assuming you are a Korean, that's why you got a decent looking option.[/QUOTE]Hate to tell you, but he said he isn't Asian in that review, which would mean he isn't Korean. I suspect they may have had nobody who was willing to see a foreigner, besides the old lady, but they still wanted your cash.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2687699]For 310 k I was given a pathetic lady who was 45+.

Awful service, hurried up incessantly and was awful to look at. Next time I go, I will call this out explicitly and see if they give me a good provider, else I will walk away instead of trying to be nice and she'll out 310 k. This is a ridiculous price for such a poor experience. I felt scoring at King Watpho was a much better option, the girls are better looking and the massage is good too.

I am assuming you are a Korean, that's why you got a decent looking option.[/QUOTE]Nope, total white guy and I don't speak Korean. Perhaps I got lucky, and the timing in the weekend afternoon was just right. I have been on the unlucky side before just like you, so maybe it was just my turn for some good luck.

What / where is King Watpho?

The lineup is not always accurate so the girl who said yes before might have been off or left the establishment even though still listed. Might work to just ask when that girl will be available if she is who you want. One girl I became friends with went to new establishment and when I messaged to book, the new place never responded. I did not mention anything about the girl. I usually try contacting as many of the Hugtels as I can before giving up.

I have been trying Gunma recently have have gotten easier results though not the same young attractive girls I get at Hugtels.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2687894]Last week I decided I'd like to add some Hyugetels to my list of "places I am allowed to visit".

I figured it would be nice to have more options available, and thus I followed my own advice and called upwards of twenty. From all of those calls I got a green light from only two Hyugetels.

One at Gangnam station was willing to offer service, but needed to check in with the providers first. I was fairly certain that they would approve me, because they had hired women I had slept with at other establishments in the past, but among their current lineup were women I had never seen before. Unfortunately, none were willing to join me. I'll try back again when their lineup changes. Anyway, it was nice to get a maybe rather than an outright no.

The other, near Seolleung station, was quick to offer service. As far as I could tell, it was a brand new ad (I had certainly never seen it before), which may explain why they were willing to get me in the door.

Without any reviews posted on Opstar, they may have expected business to be slow and were ready to do whatever it takes to get a new customer. I was happy to take advantage and be among their first.

From start to finish the experience was great. After requesting a woman, course, and an extra option I was asked to provide a picture of my ID card. Not all Hyugetels require guests to send ID, but I've done it enough that it's no longer a cause for concern. The Hyugetel then followed up by sending me their address, and later when I arrived I called to request the building door code and room number. It's all par for the course and it went exactly as expected. More importantly, the service offered behind closed doors was great and I have every intention of returning. 40 minutes of shower, kissing, rimming, DATY, BBBJ, and CIP for 120,000.

As always, it's nice to have more options.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2678568]I wrote a mini guide a few pages back on this forum!
Do ask any questions if you have any, I can't DM though.[/QUOTE]Hello Taco! I enjoyed reading a few of your reports, as well as some others from respectable members. It has been quite a long time I have been not contributing or writing on ISG. At least two years without anything meaningful to say here... (gosh!!)

I tried to find your mini guide, but I did not find it. I have looked the list of your 50 posts, but no luck. It must be my fault, but I would really appreciate if you could mention where is your guide, or maybe repost it with updates?

I will be in Seoul for some 10 days in late May. I was there 17 years ago! I remember every night I was trying some of the few barber shops near Gangnam, but I do not remember how I came to know that the twin rotating poles did mean something. However, once I had discovered that "two white-red-blue rotating poles" in Seoul had a different meaning than in other countries, I found what to do after dinner. Every night.

Today, I started to read back the Seoul thread (RTFF before asking questions!) and I still have to find if "Hyugetels" can be still recognized by the poles, or there is a different way.
I hope to learn from best posters in this thread. Thank you in advance for any "beginners guide" you and others will be so kind to provide. I will do my homework reading back pages and pages, however.

Just like others have reported, there is no problem at Thai Massage places at least. Went into a place around Myonggi-gil. The front desk was very helpful and told me the prices in English. But kept saying soft sex, which would allude to what others have said about foreigners going porn star. The girl had a few extra pounds, and a tattoo I did not care for, but it was good. She came in and fucked me until I came. Then an older massage lady came in and gave me a massage. She was older but had a good body, so honestly I wanted her too, but nothing happened. All in $120.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2688345]The lineup is not always accurate so the girl who said yes before might have been off or left the establishment even though still listed. Might work to just ask when that girl will be available if she is who you want. One girl I became friends with went to new establishment and when I messaged to book, the new place never responded. I did not mention anything about the girl. I usually try contacting as many of the Hugtels as I can before giving up.

I have been trying Gunma recently have have gotten easier results though not the same young attractive girls I get at Hugtels.[/QUOTE]Nice report Traveling John. Glad to hear that you're having success.

I very recently contacted three Gunmas near Gangnam station as well. Among the three, one replied that they would not offer service, one offered to book right away, and one asked that I either take a cancellation appointment within the hour or try to book again at a future date when they were less busy. Two out of three isn't bad.

I didn't end of booking on the day I made the calls because I was simply on a fact finding mission during a boring lull in the workday. Of note, the two Gunmas that were prepared to offer service were strictly massage + handjob establishments. One place made sure to inform me of this fact as soon as I called, and the other made it known only after I inquired about the services on offer. Apparently, full service is off the menu at these particular Gunmas.

I'm sure that the massages they offer are great, and based on the reviews posted on Opstar, their customers leave satisfied, but I'm still more inclined to visit Hyugetels because their advertisements are more upfront about the sexually explicit services that are provided. Also they tend to post more accurate pictures of the women, offer all sorts of options that I enjoy, and exclusively employ women in their 20's and early 30's.

If I could get a good massage and guaranteed full service with a young, beautiful woman at a Gunma, I would be a return customer for life. But in my experience, on average Gunmas tend to offer a good massage, a sexual experience that can be a bit of a gamble, and a slightly older but still attractive Korean woman.

Don't get me wrong, I've had great experiences at some of these places, but I've had just as many subpar ones.

Hyugetels, on the other hand, have never really disappointed.

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2688982]Just like others have reported, there is no problem at Thai Massage places at least. Went into a place around Myonggi-gil. The front desk was very helpful and told me the prices in English. But kept saying soft sex, which would allude to what others have said about foreigners going porn star. The girl had a few extra pounds, and a tattoo I did not care for, but it was good. She came in and fucked me until I came. Then an older massage lady came in and gave me a massage. She was older but had a good body, so honestly I wanted her too, but nothing happened. All in $120.[/QUOTE]This is a good find. Value for money. Can you share the location / establishment details?

[QUOTE=Pranked;2688075]Nope, total white guy and I don't speak Korean. Perhaps I got lucky, and the timing in the weekend afternoon was just right. I have been on the unlucky side before just like you, so maybe it was just my turn for some good luck.

What / where is King Watpho?[/QUOTE]It's a Thai massage place in Hongdae. I have visited multiple times and can only say good things about it. The providers are miles ahead of the one that I got at Castle. They provide a good massage and then extras. All this for 100-175 k won.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2689137]It's a Thai massage place in Hongdae. I have visited multiple times and can only say good things about it. The providers are miles ahead of the one that I got at Castle. They provide a good massage and then extras. All this for 100-175 k won.[/QUOTE]Can you please provide a bit more info on this place? Perhaps a FR from one of your outings for reference and to know what to expect.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2687894]
Without any reviews posted on Opstar, they may have expected business to be slow and were ready to do whatever it takes to get a new customer. I was happy to take advantage and be among their first.

From start to finish the experience was great. After requesting a woman, course, and an extra option I was asked to provide a picture of my ID card. Not all Hyugetels require guests to send ID, but I've done it enough that it's no longer a cause for concern. The Hyugetel then followed up by sending me their address, and later when I arrived I called to request the building door code and room number. It's all par for the course and it went exactly as expected. More importantly, the service offered behind closed doors was great and I have every intention of returning. 40 minutes of shower, kissing, rimming, DATY, BBBJ, and CIP for 120,000.

As always, it's nice to have more options.[/QUOTE]Was this for 1 or 2 shots?

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2545864]Have seen this place for a long time, but finally tried it out. King Thai what Pho Massage, near Hongdae station. They have a sign out front advertising that all the girls are in their 20's, thought this seemed too good to be true or sort of like a trap, but I had to find out for myself. Prices are a bit expensive, but they have deals on a lot of the massage sites if you search around and make an appointment. Ended up paying 50 k for a 90 minute aroma, which was like 20-30 k cheaper than the price shown in shop. Took a quick shower, waited in my room for about 10 minutes until the girl showed up. She was straight up hot, probably early-mid 20's, taller, thin with big tits in a tight t-shirt and jean booty shorts. Easily the best looking girl I've ever seen in a Thai place here, maybe even better than some of the finishers at places like Jinju etc. Massage was nothing special, 7/10, a lot of teasing throughout. After the flip eventually asked if I wanted service, 40 k for standard he, 50 k with touching, 100 k for FS. Went with the 50 k option, she took her shirt off and lost about a cup size without the padded bra, but still decent size. Technique was good, she was into it and didn't rush. Cleaned me up and finished out the massage. I'm not 100% sure on what time I started, but I feel like I got shorted out of at least 15 minutes though.

Overall the price (with the discount) was pretty good and I'd love to see what some of the other girls are like, even if I got slightly shorted on time. Thai places seem to be the ultimate YMMV, but I'll definitely at least give this one another go.[/QUOTE]GuyReynods, here's a report from when I first went. I may or may not have posted about it more if you check my history.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2684623]

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.
[/QUOTE]Any idea of the current rates at the non-tranny places? At least a range and offered services? I understand everything is usually negotiable.