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[QUOTE=Wiild; 1359433]If he wants to pay $10, let him pay $10, or go to.

[url]www.internationalburgerprice.com[/url]

And predict / discuss if his outrageous spending habits will result in Burgerking and McDonalds doubling their burgerprices. Or go out and have another burger, with cheese.[/QUOTE]Hopefully not a fur burger with cheese.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;1359779]A more accurate analogy would be if there was a McDonalds selling burgers for $3. 50 and next door was a gourmet burger shop selling top of the line burgers for $5. 00. You'ld be telling everyone not to buy the posh nosh because you can't afford it.[/QUOTE]And if Jolibee touted itself as said gourmet burger shop some people would flock to it and swear by it because of the word "gourmet", which I learned in grad school is usually no better but just an indication that you will have to pay more money.

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gourmet[/url]

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1359704]I don't see it that way.

There are MANY guys who work HARD to put aside "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off" money each year to let off steam. So when they go on vacation. They do not want or need to sweat the small stuff. That is how they blow off steam to sort of speak.

There are many Guys back home. Who would say we [B]ALL[/B] Are fools spending 1k on flight, flying 12 to 14 hrs to a 3rd world shit hole to pay for a girl. Having nothing tangible to show, throwing away good hard earned money. And only a fool would do so. So how one spends money is very subjective.

The fact that a girl asks 3k and a guy has the money / budget so he doesn't TRY to haggle her down to 2k. Is just the same.

There are people on every stratosphere of earnings. In the Past BEFORE the internet / youtube. AC was mainly a "word of mouth" location. So it was generally the same "Budget" type of monger coming.

Once it got INTERNATIONAL pubilicty. It changed AC forever. Forever? . Yes forever. There is no turning back the clock. You now have "Upscale" tourist who can afford the higher prices coming and they will only increase.[/QUOTE]To Thatguy.

That is so true I know many guys from the US only get one vacations a yr take a 2 week monger holiday to AC and Thailand don't even want to paid 2k peso for a hot young bar girl instead go to blow row everynight and get a average girl, I told them you spend all the money to get here once a yr and want to save 20 USD for what you only live once.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;1359779]Not a very accurate analogy, given that I've never known anyone offer to pay twice the rate that a girl asked for! A more accurate analogy would be if there was a McDonalds selling burgers for $3. 50 and next door was a gourmet burger shop selling top of the line burgers for $5. 00. You'ld be telling everyone not to buy the posh nosh because you can't afford it.[/QUOTE]Nope, my analogy is right on the money. We're talking people who pay OVER the asking price, I. E. They tip over the already greatly-inflated barfine, get suckered into paying over the market price, etc.

We're not talking about people who take a "spotlight dancer" for 3000 pesos instead of a waitress for 1800.

Your analogy would better apply to people who go to Macau spas rather than AC Go Go dumps.

Hi I am going to be going to AC on January 7-13 if anyone is around then and wants to meet up for a beer let me know.

Does anyone have information about Pacific Breeze or ABC hotel? I have a reservation at each but not sure which one to go with.

Thanks for the advice.

Also can you go surfing in Subic beach?

Cheers,

Surfer

[QUOTE=Surfer11;1359881]Also can you go surfing in Subic beach?[/QUOTE]Yeah sure and you also don't need to bring your surfboard since there should be plenty of turds floating in the water:

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/322583/clear-present-danger-to-subic-bay[/url]

sorry this took so long. i have been very busy at work. had to go to loredo, texas last week. went across the border to nuevo laredo which was suddenly extremely safe. i will work on a report on that thread soon.

anyway on my fourth day in ac i went to the famous angeles fried chicken on marlim blvd for lunch. it tasted like kfc. i should have ordered my chicken crispy. i think it was quite good but nothing to die for.

that night i visited several bars recently mentioned here on isg:

players at around 6:00 pm: most girls are dds alright, but so were the rest of their bodies, especially their stomachs. i didn't see anyone who fit rhea's description. i didn't ask.

next, off to genesis: not bad but did not see any girl that i like so i did not hang around.

brown sugar around 7:30 pm: all the waitresses & mamasans were hotter than the girls on stage. they were truly hot. i should have bf one of them.

ponytails: i arrived at 7:55 pm. 5 minutes before happy hour and 'who let the dogs out' competition ended. ordered a drink and got a number for the raffle. i won a t-shirt. how cool is that? i would have picked one of the dance girls in black bikini except that they moved so fast and immediately disappeared after their routine.

i ended up picking a very short very pretty polynesian-looking mindanao-visayas girl named ali (white i'd tag #1107). terrible, terrible choice. she was worse than star fish. at least star fish let you fuck her! when we got to the room, she won't do anything: no bj, nothing. i screwed her for a few minutes (less than 10 minutes, really) then i quit. i thought maybe if i stop for a while we could resume later in a better mood. wrong. she immediately went to sleep. i tried to wake her up about two hours later but she won't (or pretended not to) wake up. what could i do? i couldn't force her. that would be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. so i went to sleep too. i woke up around 8 in the morning and again tried to wake her. she refused to wake up. then suddenly at about 9 am, her phone rang. she got up, looked at the phone and said her cousin is waiting for her. she dressed in like a minute and took off. i was in shock. never in my decades of mongering have i encountered a situation like this which i felt completely helpless.

that night i went back to ponytails and complained to the management. the manager (i think his name was rudy but i'm not sure) and one of the mamasan questioned the girl in the office. the manager then came out and told me that the girl told them i fucked her twice the night before. it was her word against mine and they totally believed her.

well, i will never step into ponytails again even if they have all the miss philippines naked on their dance floor!

one last report coming up.

[QUOTE=Surfer11;1359881]Also can you go surfing in Subic beach?[/QUOTE]SB (and his news report) told you what you need to know about surfing at Subic. If you're bent on surfing in Luzon, a better alternative is San Juan in La Union Province. It's just North of San Fernando, the capital of La Union. Buses go from Angeles to San Fernando, about three hours, plus or minus, North of AC. You can find routes and approximate travel times online. The buses probably continue on past San Juan, but there are also jeepneys and maybe trikes that can get you from San Fernando to San Juan. Waves aren't great, but there are a number of resorts that rent boards. The surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now were filmed there. Beaches just a little North of the surfing area are decent. Some recent posts in the Other Areas thread have also reported on the pfp scene in areas near San Fernando, including Bauang, which was an American military outpost some years ago.

[QUOTE=Funman13;1359958]Ponytails:I ended up picking a very short very pretty Polynesian-looking Mindanao-Visayas girl named Ali (white I'd tag #1107). Terrible, terrible choice. She was worse than star fish. At least star fish let you fuck her! When we got to the room, she won't do anything: no BJ, nothing. I screwed her for a few minutes (less than 10 minutes, really) then I quit.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is fucked up bro. Worse than a star fish? See that is the point when I take my dick out and jack off all over her face. I guess that is why many guys choose Blow Row. You never see guys complaining after a session with one of those girls. Some go for style while others prefer reliability.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1359216]My observation has been that Thailand, Vietnam and Malaysia have expended rapidly because of two main factors. The first is long term strategic vision. The second has been national investment in education.

Certainly in Malaysia and Singapore, both have been helped by national leaders who created long term strategic vision and then drove them for 30 years.

G.

30 years ago the Phils, Vietnam and Thailand were similar in economies. Vietnam and Thailand understood that if they allowed large birth numbers they would not be able to grow economically because of the cost of education, medical care, and also high unemployment rates. Vietnam and Thailand promoted birth control and sex ed. You see what happened to them. They flourished. The Phils under the influence of the Catholic Church has gone downhill, sadly. But it is the huge number of unemployed young that also makes for fertile grounds (so to speak) for ISG visitors. As long as there is this big pool of unemployed there will be the employment that we enjoy, though the price may increase due to increased tourism and demand. If the Phils ever gets its act together (fat farking chance, unfortunately for the people) it would go the way of the other Southeast countries, and the hobby price would climb proportionately.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Mate, not sure where you have done your research, but Vietnam is no where near Thailaind or any other SE asian nation in terms of economic growth and in fact even today, Philipines has a higher GPD and GNP than Vietnam in terms of total GDP and GDP per capita.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1359809]And if Jolibee touted itself as said gourmet burger shop some people would flock to it and swear by it because of the word "gourmet", which I learned in grad school is usually no better but just an indication that you will have to pay more money.

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gourmet[/url][/QUOTE]Urban dictionary? Really? Grad school taught you that a gourmet burger is nothing? You're telling me that a McDonald's burger is the same as one that's from aged beef and hand made? Really? Gibson's is that same as Roadhouse?

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1359580]Anyone who overpays just because they have the money was born into it, they didn't earn it. Anyone who earned that kind of money doesn't throw it away or overpay just because they can, look at Rockefeller who came from obscurity and obtained great wealth and power, he was extremely tight and did everything he could to spend less than the market rate for whatever he wanted. Even though he could afford to pay many times the market rate, only towards the end did he give money away for civil projects and even then it was a calculated move to divert public animosity away from him and an attempt to gain positive public opinion. Only those born with a silver spoon in their mouth and allowed to keep it because of a weakened inheritance tax structure (I thought we fought a revolution against inherited wealth and power, I'm reminded of the marriage of Figaro, what did you do to deserve the wealth and power but take the time to be born).

Anyone who throws it away just because they can is either a fool or they were born into it, they didn't earn it on their own.[/QUOTE]I've worked hard all my life. Left home at 17, never asked anyone for a penny. So here I am in my 50's divorced. My kids will be done with school next year. The will be self sufficient soon. I have no desire to marry again. Now I'm not a bazzilionaire but I'm ok. I haven't been on a real vacation in a few years because work has been crazy. I'm going to take some time and have some fun. I'm not going to go halfway around the world and deny myself a gorgeous piece of ass because she wants a few extra dollars. I'll try and negotiate (I am a business man after all) but if she looks like fun, acts like fun, and wants 5-10 more. I'm not going to sit there and haggle for hours on end. I will let her know that I'm overpaying because I like her and that I expect her to be a good girl. I will also set the hook and talk about multiple night maybe. (and if she's good I will do so) So for me it's not just about money. To be successful in my work you need to have a little understanding of how people work. Have you ever told a working girl how pretty she looks? Have you reaffirmed that during the session telling er what a great ass she has, what a great job she's doing going down on you? What a good girl she is (yes, they all want to please daddy) You'd be surprised. I've been mongering for a long time and inasmuch as I might not have the highest count I have had some amazing experiences all over the world. I see so many guys complaining about shit service and starfish performances. I haven't experience that except maybe a few times. But I always make the girl feel special. Tell her "honey I'm going to pay you more because your the most special girl here" Make her feel special. That $5 will go a long way.

Simon says. Peace

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1360053]Urban dictionary? Really? Grad school taught you that a gourmet burger is nothing? You're telling me that a McDonald's burger is the same as one that's from aged beef and hand made? Really? Gibson's is that same as Roadhouse?[/QUOTE]It's called marketing Simon. Which is the reason Coca-Cola is the number one soft drink on the planet. What's the difference between Coca-Cola and any other cola? Any freshman chemistry student can mix sugar with water and bubbles. Maybe a McDonald's burger is not better than an XYZ burger, but there are a hell of a lot more people buying the McDonald's burger. Perhaps you would be interested in buying a pet rock? When I was a freshman in college I called myself buying a gourmet car, Alfa Romeo. Worse piece of shit ever. A Toyota Corolla or even a Ford Escort would have been a much better choice over that. Much the same as a Blow Row girl would have been a better choice over the sub-starfish Ponytails girl. Just because it's dressed up with bullshit doesn't make it "better".

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1359958]That night I went back to Ponytails and complained to the management. The manager (I think his name was Rudy but I'm not sure) and one of the mamasan questioned the girl in the office. The manager then came out and told me that the girl told them I fucked her twice the night before. It was her word against mine and they totally believed her.

Well, I will never step into Ponytails again even if they have all the Miss Philippines naked on their dance floor![/QUOTE]It's strange. Some guys rave about Ponytails but I always get a bad vibe from the place. The girls look so disinterested. I tend to believe that if a girl will shake her stuff on stage for the pure pleasure of dancing and having fun then she will be a good fuck. By that measure how many girls in Ponytails look like they will be a good fuck? (excluding the dance troop obviously).

You have told my story. I totally agree. It is the little things. That we all like. You and me to with we are being sold. And I pay extra for all kinds of stuff. Direct flight to Cebu from States. I could fly to manila, transfer to local airport, then fly to Cebu. I fly now 22 hours one stop. Could make it 32 hours and 4 stops and safe 10, 000 peso. Even when I am done I will take them to mall and buy a t shirt. 6 pack of panties of their choose. I was just in Thailand with the bomb. 24 year old. So, hot I knew it would be a star fish but just want to feel it and see it. Went down on me no condom like a vaccum. Was hitting it doggie with condom. Stuck thum in ass and she backed up. I laughed and when she turned to look at me, I said so you like that. And you could see the I hate to addmit it but then she looked ahead and shoke her head. Now that ass was so fine in the morning I went into the shower and sat on the shiter and just looked at her in the shower. She said what? I just said you are lucky the prince ain; t seen you. She is like why. Oh baby you locked up in the back room. She smiled and I still remember that. Yea I paid more than any other from the start. 4000 baht and tiped 1K more with 200 for taxi. I will go to my grave with those memorys. And it has been pointed out that a Mercedes cost a lot. I have never owned one. But when I drove one I knew it was not my VW Jetta. So, the old true issume. You get what you pay for. Said all that to say, yea I agree