Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Kafka;2610622]People in Cartagena can smell an attitude like yours a mile away, Good luck because you're going to need it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2610634]You should definitely hurry up and leave. Why waste a month in such a horrible place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610655]"Colombians are dishonest people in general"' is an observation you are going to make based on your experience in a tourist dominated area of the one city you visited. An area that attracts every kind o tout and hustler?[/QUOTE]Fellas, if vets are going to chastise everyone whose opinions you don't like -- people either won't post in the first place or will censor themselves. Is that what we want?

Let him talk. All experiences are useful, IMHO.

So he had a bad time. He fell for some scams. He got bad food poisoning. A sequence of events like these can make anyone cranky.

Cartagena can be a lot to a newbie. There is not much in his post that doesn't ring true. Maybe the generalities, but the heat, the scams, the worst fucking touts in the whole wide world! The city beaches are total shit, girls are scammy. It's all true. You know that.

Now since you all love Cartagena, to you it's like a heresy. I'm somewhat in the middle. I've only been there once. I loved the beauty and history of the walled city, loved the food, and I did have a few decent encounters with the local talent. But those constant scams can be tiring. My advice to OP is to take a deep breath and see the place for what it is. Not perfect, but not a shithole. Not all Colombians are dishonest, but people WILL try to scam you. Scams are much easier to fend off when you're ready and not drunk. And sometimes it's OK to lose a little money, it's not the end of the world.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2610694]Fellas, if vets are going to chastise everyone whose opinions you don't like -- people either won't post in the first place or will censor themselves. Is that what we want?

Let him talk. All experiences are useful, IMHO.

So he had a bad time. He fell for some scams. He got bad food poisoning. A sequence of events like these can make anyone cranky.

Cartagena can be a lot to a newbie. There is not much in his post that doesn't ring true. Maybe the generalities, but the heat, the scams, the worst fucking touts in the whole wide world! The city beaches are total shit, girls are scammy. It's all true. You know that.

Now since you all love Cartagena, to you it's like a heresy. I'm somewhat in the middle. I've only been there once. I loved the beauty and history of the walled city, loved the food, and I did have a few decent encounters with the local talent. But those constant scams can be tiring. My advice to OP is to take a deep breath and see the place for what it is. Not perfect, but not a shithole. Not all Colombians are dishonest, but people WILL try to scam you. Scams are much easier to fend off when you're ready and not drunk. And sometimes it's OK to lose a little money, it's not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]I loved every aspect of Cartagena. Sure we go for the pussy but the city and the people are attraction enough. Cartagena is unique in all the world and the people are welcoming and honest. Scams, sure. Hardened men and women at times. Sure. But remember who you dealing with and what you are doing. When you monger you are simply part of a business. Treat them with dignity and respect and you will get the same. Don't be rude and you won't get rude in return.

[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2610572]This place is a real overrated shithole. Beaches are ugly and every one and their cousin are out to scam you. The pros are not that great either IMO. Granted I only went put one night so far to clock tower area. I walked around drinking beer looking for a girl to turn me on enough while I got a buzz. Fending off scammers left and right.

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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2610694]Fellas, if vets are going to chastise everyone whose opinions you don't like -- people either won't post in the first place or will censor themselves. Is that what we want?

.[/QUOTE]I understand your concern, but just because he isn't lying doesn't mean he is making a report that honestly reflects the Cartagena scene. His negativity is obvioulsy a reflection on him and not the place. Plenty of people post about negative experiences and get feedback but this is not that. He is slandering a place based on it not meeting his preconcieved expectations. It is like me going to New York City and being disappointed that the streets are not made of gold. "New York City is a shithole because the streets are not made of gold..." sounds pretty rediculous.

The reason he is basing his judgements on the place not meeting his expectations is partially because he obviously did not RTFF. Some of his experience was just bad luck but others could have been avoided had he researched more. For example , it is frustrating to see someone complain that they got charge extra for BBBJ when there are so many posts about negotiating these things before hand. then his comment about the beaches and the water, no one on this forum as ever said Cartagena has beautiful beaches (of course he did not take a trip to Islas del Rosario) or clear water. Cartagena has soil erosion, so the beaches are browner and the water is not clear, but its not "filthy water". Not the same thing.

His statement about all the girls being hard core pros makes me question whether he even got out of Plaza de los Coches. Maybe I take for granted my knowledge gained from experience but I most often have find a sweet little thing in LDV who is only visiting from Medellin or Bucaramanga trying to work temporarily to make college money or just pay for their vacation to Cartagena. My experience is that less than half the chicas are all that hardcore. Then again if you are basing it on comparing it to Thailand, the girls in the Go Go bars in Thailand can and often do look like children compared to girls anywhere in the world so that may be that he only has one point of reference.

Here is a tip - the sweet ones rarely fly solo - they are most likely to congregate and be talking with at least one other chica becuause it makes them feel more secure - they are the ones that are most likely to feel nervous standing alone. that said when you start talking to the chica and negotiating you want to get her away from her friend(s) at least out of earshot because she is less likely to admit to doing things like BBBJ in front of her friends (chicas think its "dirty"). That said also remmber that chicas that are thieves may work in teams so do not take both chicas to your apartment unless you have a wingman to help watch

[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2610703]Cartagena is unique in all the world [/QUOTE]What is unique about it?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610754]Instead of saying "I had a horrible time and this is why. " he chooses to say "This place is a real overrated shithole. " as if he has the last say and the expeirtise to say so??[/QUOTE]Take the girls away, would you go to Cartagena for the beach? Take the beach away, would you still go to Cartagena for the girls? My first time to Cartagena I was going to check out the beach. I had conflicting opinions from Colombians on whether the beach in Cartagena or Santa Marta was better, so I set out to find out for myself. When I got to Cartagena I was like this beach sux and chicks and accommodations are way cheaper in Bogota and Medellin. I even had a taxi drive me somewhere like 30 minutes away that was supposed to be a better beach. It was pretty much the same as around the city but I had the place to myself. Now I only make day trips from Barranquilla to go to Playa Blanca with a chick and go nowhere near the city.

I do tend to trust the subjective opinion of people that have been to various places versus a person that has only been to 1 place and glorifies that place. In this case, Nypher and HOT have been to various mongering destinations, yet see 2 different things in Cartagena. Different strokes for different folks. The only way to know is to go and get your own experience.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2610761]Take the girls away, would you go to Cartagena for the beach? Take the beach away, would you still go to Cartagena for the girls?[/QUOTE]I rarely go to the beach in Cartagena, I always fuck a lot in Cartagena. Does that answer your question? I have never heard any conflicting opinions as to whether Cartagena or Santa Marta has a better beach. Santa Marta is always the one mentioned for the baeach that I have heard, The beach is not what attracts many people to Cartagena (I feel like I am repeating myself) The beach is not why Cartagena is a UNESCO world heritage site. It is the historical architecture. The old walled city. I realize not eveyone like this sort of thing but that is what Colombians mean when they say Cartagena is a beautiful city. I am sure that some people think of the beach as an added bonus but at any given time there are as many people in the old city as there are on the beach.

You ask the other poster what is unique about Cartagena. Besides the UNESCO world heritage site? - it is the concenration of hot chicas for sale in one small area. For quantity and quality there is no place I know of in the western hemisphere that compares -.

Are you honestly going to try and say that there are as many hot chicas in El Centro or Santa Fe as one can even find in Dolce Vita on a good night? - the quality is not even close and if you disagree than we just disagree. You can argue that I will have to spend more money but, I stand by the quality of the chicas being overall better and I like the old city and so that is why it is unique. Maybe it is different styles and different taste but its not for me to go walk for blocks in these niehborhoods and sorting through all the mediocre "doable" chicas when I can walk in LDV and there are ten hot chicas standing within ten feet.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610771]it is the concenration of hot chicas for sale in one small area. For quantity and quality there is no place I know of in the western hemisphere that compares -.

Are you honestly going to try and say that there are as many hot chicas in El Centro or Santa Fe as one can even find in Dolce Vita on a good night? -[/QUOTE]LOL. Dude you know me like a book, because when I read that last part that is exactly what I was thinking. I read the next part and it was like you were already responding to what was in my head. I will still argue that when you go inside the clubs like Paisas in Santa Fe you are going to see the same type chicks that you will see in DV for a fraction of the price.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2610779]LOL. Dude you know me like a book, because when I read that last part that is exactly what I was thinking. I read the next part and it was like you were already responding to what was in my head. I will still argue that when you go inside the clubs like Paisas in Santa Fe you are going to see the same type chicks that you will see in DV for a fraction of the price.[/QUOTE]For the record I have been to Thailand and mongered in Thailand is why I am saying it was unrealsitic to try to judge Cartagena on any expectations set by expereinces in Thailand. IMHO Thailand has the most beauftiful beaches in the world. For my taste if Thailand was filled with Latinas it would be heaven on earth. I have run into the occassional jewel in Thailand that has the same features I like, but that's the exception. Most women it Thailand are too skinny for my taste.

Still as I said in my earlier post, I love Thailand and if I had more time and money I would spend more time there. I personally prefer Patong Beach (I know most argue Pattaya and I understand why, more girls on the long walking street) but I like being in Patong Beach because the sand is whiter and Bangla Rd is right there with a sufficient variety of girls and still a person is in walking distance to the gorgeous beach, I get an apartment with a view on a beautiful bay. And I can catch a boat tour or take a girl out to Phi Phi Don etc etc. You cannot even compare that part of the experience to Cartagena. But as far as the quality of the girls. For my experience and my taste even given the overwhelming numbers of girls in a place like Bangla Rd. I will find more hot chicas for my tastes in LDV than in all of those Go Go clubs.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2610761]I do tend to trust the subjective opinion of people that have been to various places versus a person that has only been to 1 place and glorifies that place. In this case, Nypher and HOT have been to various mongering destinations, yet see 2 different things in Cartagena. Different strokes for different folks. The only way to know is to go and get your own experience.[/QUOTE]I believe this have to do with some people are just hardened in their ways and don't want to step out of their comfort zone and try something new, and the older they get the more simple minded they become.

I've stopped traveling with many other mongers in the past because they were a one track mind mentality. Perfect example:

There are mongers that all they want to do is go to casinos and get girls every night. (they end up blowing more money at the casino than on the girl).

There are mongers that just want to sit by the pool in their Airbnb smoke cigars and invite random girls over from dating apps. (girl shows up and her dating app pictures was before she had a baby or right after she had the tummy tuck before she put the weight back on).

There are mongers that all they want to do is go to stripclubs every night and justify it by saying they like to see the merchandise before they buy (Then they come out saying it looks good but it was loose, of they had a funny smell, or she was wack).

Sometimes I just laugh at people and tell them they just collecting stamps in their passports because they spend all that money, go to a different country, and end up doing the same exact shit they could have done back home the only difference is that its cheaper overseas.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610786]For the record I have been to Thailand and mongered in Thailand is why I am saying it was unrealsitic to try to judge Cartagena on any expectations set by expereinces in Thailand. IMHO Thailand has the most beauftiful beaches in the world. For my taste if Thailand was filled with Latinas it would be heaven on earth. I have run into the occassional jewel in Thailand that has the same features I like, but that's the exception. Most women it Thailand are too skinny for my taste..[/QUOTE]I made that big mistake in Pattaya on the first trip. Went into Hollywood Club, had to pay for bottle service to get in, and no girls would talk to us despite the whole club packed with girls. Learned the hard when a girl inside the club told me "these girls are not for you" then she told us to "go to 808 or Insomnia, those girls like chocolate man and will talk to you". She turned our shitty night into a wonderful night by pointing us in the right direction without asking for anything in return. So many thick Asians in 808! I wouldn't take that experience to Latin America and expect a chica to point me in the right direction towards the right club where I can pick, instead she would start showing me pictures of her working friends or give me a pimps number because she wants her commission.

The thing with Colombia is that gringos are watching these yotubers and already have a mindset of what to expect before they land not realizing that youtuber is only showing an edited highlight version of what's happening. Different places different fuck styles. I've never met an Asian chick that can fuck me the way a Colombian or Venezuelan can. A Asian girl will just get on top and bounce up and down like a rocking horse. A Colombian or Venezuelan will hop on top start riding and will do a whole 360 while riding without the dick slipping out. Not even DR chicas are on that level of that exorcist riding level.

No two are the same Its like that chicken sandwich war between these franchises, everyone have the one they like and prefer. Even though its echoed through out the forum its still not heard.

Gents,

I just come back from Cartagena and I must say I was very disappointed by mongering in Cartagena. I spent most of the time in Centro and historic area. Too many tourists. I did most of my mongering on Seeking Arrangement (SA) and was very disappointed with the qualities of the girls. They were expensive and not so hot. Many of them say they are in CART but actual lies they are living 45 minutes or more away from the city. I met one girl and she didn't look anything like her photos. So I sent her home. I didn't see much street actions, but I was also not going outside after 8 pm. So I don't know if there are pretty street women.

Maybe others have different CART strategy, but looking on SA was not good. I had much better luck in Medellin and Bogotá on SA. The only time I had sex in CART was with the left hand.

Good luck.

U1.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2610655]..
Cartagena has the greatest concentration of hot latina chicas of any place in the world. ..[/QUOTE]I am not sure that is true or not but I think Sao Paulo can beat it as far as club goes. LDV has only one bar and very small. The largest Sao Paulo club I have been to has 6 full size bars, a wine cellar and full of chicas.

I got to say as far as scam or dishonesty go that Cartagena tourist area is at a whole different level. I took my clothes to a wash by kilo laundry place. A 3 kilos on my travel scale became 6 kilos. I did not argue with them but I brought my scale with me to show them when I picked up clothes. They just smiled and I paid and left. Pretty much anything service related have a potential for scam. I hire a taxi to a club for 10 K. On return trip, I end up paying the same taxi, same driver 15 K.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2610888]I am not sure that is true or not but I think Sao Paulo can beat it as far as club goes. LDV has only one bar and very small. The largest Sao Paulo club I have been to has 6 full size bars, a wine cellar and full of chicas.

I got to say as far as scam or dishonesty go that Cartagena tourist area is at a whole different level. I took my clothes to a wash by kilo laundry place. A 3 kilos on my travel scale became 6 kilos. I did not argue with them but I brought my scale with me to show them when I picked up clothes. They just smiled and I paid and left. Pretty much anything service related have a potential for scam. I hire a taxi to a club for 10 K. On return trip, I end up paying the same taxi, same driver 15 K.[/QUOTE]I am interested in these clubs in Sao Paulo. Just to clarify. Are these full of chicas that are prepagos? What is the ratio?

[QUOTE=Nypher;2610828]So many thick Asians in 808! .[/QUOTE]I used to rent the same apartment in Patong Beach every time, not only because of the view but the owner earned my loyalty. I had cleared it with him about bringing girls up to the apartment so he knew what my game plan was. He offered to send someone to pick me up at the airport for the same price as a taxi, naturally I agreed and then I ask how am I going to know who is picking me up? He said easy, she will be the one with big titties! Needless to say I paid her for more than one kind of ride that day.

Found a good roundup of ATM machines in one place. If you ever visit the mall in San Diego (across from Exito in San Diego), there are 4 ATM's on the ground floor: Daviencio, Scotiabank, bank of Colombia, and another one that starts with be (not BBVA). But they are all together in one place. Oh I know I butchered the names, my bad.