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[QUOTE=Jammery;1743645]Thanks for the reply, BkkMick.
Ah, yes. Overthinking. Guilty as charged. A bad habit I'll never get out of.
I appreciate your advice. I was just worried about making a girl lose face, which I know is especially serious in Thailand. I think this may be more of an issue at the gogo bars than at the MPs. At a massage parlor, once you make your choice, you go to a private room and hopefully your current companion makes you forget about everything going on outside. I suppose I'm more concerned about going back to a bar, sitting with someone new but being aware, in the corner of your eye, of last night's girl pouting or scowling away. That might spoil my enjoyment while I'm sitting in the bar, but in such cases I'll just barfine the new girl and move on to the hotel as quickly as possible.
I have in the past made repeat trips to Dr BJs, and the girls there seem to be pretty cool about me being a butterfly.
Two questions specifically for you, BkkMick. First of all, any information about contacting Ice would be gratefully received. This might be my last trip to BKK for quite some time, and she's been on my to-do list for years, so I'm not ready to give up on her just yet.
Second, I've heard great things about Candy / Beer, ex-Cherry and now at Candy Massage. But the images of Candy I've seen in the past look very different from the woman with the same name on Candy Massage's website:
[URL]http://www.candy-massage.com/images/ladies_l/candy/01.jpg[/URL]
Is this the same legendary Candy? I know age and photoshop can make a woman seem very different, but I'm not sure if this is the same woman. Please let me know.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to reply and give good advice.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is the same Candy and the photos on the website are quite accurate.
I don't give out personal contact details of the girls I know. However since Ice is still freelancing I suggest you PM me once you are in Bangkok. Get a local phone card and I will pass on the number to her. If she wants to get in contact with you than that's her choice and I haven't betrayed any confidence.
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Best prolonged rimming??
After being introduced to this about a year ago. I can't seem hold a 'hard on' without a girl rimming me.
Even the porn I watch has to have some.
The best thing about the places in Thailand Bangkok / Pattaya. Its a standard service.
Wanted to inquire if you guys feel its an imperative part of your punts.
Who are the currently best going girls at the respected massage Parlours in Bangkok in regards to feat of rimming.
When I say 'prolonged rimming'.
I mean girls that will enthusiastically rim / tongue / slobber / DFK (Make love LOL) to your ass for long periods, which causes your cock to go so stiff as it feels like it will explode.
Also I've always wanted to try this feat but never got round to it. When one girl is riding in cowgirl and your legs are elevated for her to tongue your ass.
Like this example watch after 22.30:[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1070317735[/URL].
I did try and do this in Patts last time but I had a very bad leg and back so did not wish to injure myself try porn stunts.
So any recommendations will be only in Bangkok for the a day or two so. Wish to jump into the deep end straight away. LOL.
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[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1743875]I don't mean to belabor the point but your claim that you get a BBBJ half the time at Nataree is extremely unusual. I'm afraid people who are new to ISG and unfamiliar with the Ratchada soapies may read and believe this, only to be very disappointed when they are in the room with the girl. FYI, the girl who gave me the BBBJ was a very fair skinned, tall, young and beautiful; though she did try very hard to get my attention[/QUOTE]I've never claimed I get a BBBJ half the time at Nataree. I'm sorry to hear of your reading comprehension problems. To repeat, I prefer a CBJ and agree that this is the standard service at Nataree. Some years ago some of the girls didn't seem that fussed about it. It wasn't a scientific survey so don't be too fixated with the word 'half'. Whether it's more difficult now than it was back then I don't know as I make it clear to the girls I want a CBJ.
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On Smoking
I am not sure this post will do much to settle the ongoing BBBJ / CBJ discussion concerning Nataree girls, but here goes anyway.
I visited Nataree 5 times during my 30 day March / April stay in BKK. That averages out to about a visit every 6 days. I like the place because they seem to specialize in having a ton of young, fit, friendly, and attractive girls from Northern Thailand. The service is basic shag and I like basic shag when it is with young, fit, attractive, and friendly girls. When I want something more refined or more porny, I go to a high end soapy like La Belle or friendly porn shop like Mango. That's one of the things I love about Bangkok: the variety of venues.
I only had 3 Nataree girls during my 5 visits to this establishment this year because I repeated 3 x with one 22 year old in particular. Believe me, she had to be both very attractive and pretty damn good in bed or I would never have gone back to her so many times. 2 of my 3 Nataree girls gave me acceptable basic BBBJ without any muss or fuss so I assumed that like everywhere else I go in BKK and South East Asia, for that matter, BBBJ is the default service. I viewed my experience with Nataree girl #3, the girl who insisted on CBJ as an anomaly because I chose her under rather extraordinary circumstances. It was my last night in BKK, yada yada yada. I was in kind of a rush. I had many things to do that last night in addition to getting laid like saying goodbye to my special Suzi Wong girl and having a couple of farewell Tequila shots with my favorite Crazy House girl. I wanted to do all that, eat dinner, and be in bed by midnight in order to get a few hours of sleep before my early 4 am wakeup call to go to the airport and catch my flight to Macau.
So my sample of 3 girls from Nataree is small and not that reliable to extrapolate from. If you guys tell me 50% or more of Nataree girls insist on CBJ, I am not going to argue with you, but I will still rely on my own experiences to guide me. If on the other hand, my next couple of Nataree girls selected with my normal, tried and true, relaxed method results in CBJ sessions; I will cross Nataree off my list of favorite Soapy Massage Parlors. This is because BBBJ is not negotiable IMHO. I expect it and I won't settle for anything less. Besides, I know several other joints in BKK with equally young, fit, attractive, and friendly girls. There is no reason to give Nataree my business if it is their policy to offer or permit CBJ service.
On my last 7. 5 week trip through SE Asia, I shagged over 40 different girls. ONLY ONE GIRL GAVE ME A CBJ (in Nataree) during the entire trip. Add to those numbers similar stats for my recent past trips dating from 2009 through 2014 and those are real statistics on which to base my conclusion, which is: BBBJ is the default service with Asian girls in Asia. Period. I may compromise on some things like the number of shags per session or paying 1500 bt barfine for a smoking hot coyote girl in Mandarin or Sensations A Go Go as long as she is very friendly, but I will never compromise on a basic service like a BBBJ. I don't think you guys should either, but that is just my opinion.
Now what is the difference between a basic BBBJ (service) and something more refined? A basic BBBJ is when a girl aligns her body parallel to yours. She positions herself between your legs with her head facing 12 O'clock towards your head and her back facing 6 O'clock towards your feet. From this position there is nothing much you can do except place your hands on her head or her shoulders as she smokes you. It is a basic BBBJ and like I said there is nothing wrong with it and depending on the girl's expertise, it can be very enjoyable. But a more refined BBBJ is when the girl positions her body perpendicular to yours and her head is facing 9 O'clock or 3 O'clock relative to your head at 12 O'clock. The girl then reclines somewhat on her side with her legs apart so that her pussy is plainly visible and an easy arm's length away to be stimulated while you are receiving a BBBJ. Girls that give BBBJ's in this manner all seem to want more. Now I don't DATY all the girls I have sessions with. I have high standards, 555, but some beautiful girls with perfect skin and excellent hygiene easily pass my high standards and I fully enjoy them. For example, my last 4 La Belle sideline girls all passed my standards criteria and we engaged in prolonged and very satisfying 69. One girl in particular had such a beautiful little bum hole ringed by a narrow ribbon of darker pigment skin tone that I had to give her some anal stimulation with my tongue. Hey what can I say? Sometimes I want a pastrami on rye so I go to places like Nataree and other times I want a Kobe steak so I go to places La Belle or Rio Sauna in Macau.
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[QUOTE=BkkMick;1744010]Yes, it is the same Candy and the photos on the website are quite accurate.
I don't give out personal contact details of the girls I know. However since Ice is still freelancing I suggest you PM me once you are in Bangkok. Get a local phone card and I will pass on the number to her. If she wants to get in contact with you than that's her choice and I haven't betrayed any confidence.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, BkkMick.
I'm very tempted to book an appointment with Candy, based on glowing reports in the forum, so it's good to know that she is the one everyone was referring to.
Thanks for the offer to pass on my number to Ice. I'll be in touch. I respect your position, not giving out her personal details without her permission.
Very grateful for all your help.
All the best!
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Multi- shot at Nataree
Is multi-shot here ever possible? I only have a little time left in Thailand and want to make the most of it. On one hand I have heard the many good things about the talent on offer on the other only getting one shit in a two hour session doesn't seem like a lot. I mean for me at max maybe I am fucking for 20 to 30 minutes. What does one do with the rest of the time?
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[QUOTE=Egb5811;1744199]Is multi-shot here ever possible (at Nataree)? [/QUOTE]Sure, just offer your girl a 500bt "tip" for a 2nd shot immediately after your 1st shot while the two of you are still lying in bed together naked. Money talks. Bring your own condoms.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1744294]Sure, just offer your girl a 500bt "tip" for a 2nd shot immediately after your 1st shot while the two of you are still lying in bed together naked. Money talks. Bring your own condoms.[/QUOTE]Natty, have you done this successfully? The reason I ask is I thought many if not most tip between 300 and 500 baht irrespective (i.e., even after only one shot), and if this is what the girls are used to, offering 500 for an extra shot might solicit a counter of 1,000, and this would instigate a negotiation that for me would detract from the fun.
Having said this, I have (at least in the past, meaning a few years ago) had a session or two where I did get two shots (I can't remember whether I offered a tip for it) although that was not the norm (and on at least one occasion I had the papa-san pre-negotiate it for me).
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[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1744296]Natty, have you done this successfully? The reason I ask is I thought many if not most tip between 300 and 500 baht irrespective (i.e., even after only one shot), and if this is what the girls are used to, offering 500 for an extra shot might solicit a counter of 1,000, and this would instigate a negotiation that for me would detract from the fun.
Having said this, I have (at least in the past, meaning a few years ago) had a session or two where I did get two shots (I can't remember whether I offered a tip for it) although that was not the norm (and on at least one occasion I had the papa-san pre-negotiate it for me).[/QUOTE]Yes LA, the 500 bt extra offer has worked for me in the past although I rarely make that offer nowadays because I prefer one shot and to wait a few hours, relax, have dinner, and find another girl later.
In answer to the 2nd part of your post; I do not think most massage girls expect a 300bt to 500bt tip although I am on the pro tipping side and I usually tip 300 bt for good service and 500 bt for great service. (Geez, I hope this does not generate another 2 week debate on tipping. LOL.) In any case if the OP wants a 2nd shot with a Nataree girl he can most likely have one. He should just play his cards close to his vest and not tell the girl beforehand of his plans or that he was planing to tip her anyway, if that was his inclination. 500bt is a good amount to offer because it is just large enough to persuade a girl to accept without going into any further negotiation which I agree would kill the vibe and "detract from the fun" as you put it.
I remember the 1st time I asked for a 2nd shot in a very popular upscale one shot soapy (not Nataree). The girl was really hot and I came too quickly. I didn't want the session to end there without truly fulfilling myself with this hot girl and it just came to me spontaneously to ask her for another round. At first the girl did not seem so keen on the idea, but when I quickly offered her something extra for a second tryst, that peaked her interest, you bet. Then she asked how much I would give her. I came up with the 500bt amount off the top of my head and she happily agreed. That 2nd round was a great shag which is why I still remember the session. Of course the simplest thing to do if you know you want two shags is to go to a oily massage parlor known for multiple shots per session like Mango or Snow White, but then you won't find the same type of girl there. Damn! Everything is a trade off and nothing is free.
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Another Trip to Nataree
I visited Nataree again last night. In my younger days I sessioned more go-go than massage girls, now it's the reverse. As I entered, many girls, as usual, smiled at me but there was this one seated at the right as you enter who gave me a special smile of which I made a mental note. I toured the facility twice accompanied by papasan who per usual made his recommendations. I then sat down for a drink all the while looking in the direction of the girl whose smile made an impact on me. The papasan sat with me encouraging me to go with one particular girl for 5000 baht which I declined. I then asked him about the price for girls seated where 'my girl' was seated he said 2600 bt except for number 3 in the row who is 3200. You guessed it, number 3 was my girl and I chose her.
She was petite from Chiang Mai and had a pretty face. While the tub was being filled she gave me a very decent Thai massage for which she must have had some training. In the bath after cleaning my boy well she proceeded to give me an unrequested BBBJ, my first at Nataree this trip. In the sack she gave me excellent service. All the while she was very playfull and funny. Great GFE. The only down side was that after I went down on her which included rimming she refused to kiss reminding me of what I had done to her, which was kind of weird as she was giving me BBBJ all the while. The great thing about her was that she really enjoyed the sex so much so that she was completely oblivious to time and we went 15 minutes over.
She was definitely a good choice. I tipped her 200 bt, probably worth more but that was what I had on me barring MRT cash. I notice that some girls leave a tip for the cleaner and others don't. I also notice that the girls who give the best service leave a tip for the cleaner.
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[QUOTE=*****man;1743407] About half of the girls I've had there offer me BBBJ without me even asking for it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=*****man;1744109]I've never claimed I get a BBBJ half the time at Nataree. I'm sorry to hear of your reading comprehension problems. [/QUOTE]I rest my case. F**k off m**on. By the way, communication via ISG is written not spoken.
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[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1744382]I rest my case. F**k off m**on. By the way, communication via ISG is written not spoken.[/QUOTE]If you don't know the difference between the words offer and get then who is the moron?
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[QUOTE=Egb5811;1744199]Is multi-shot here ever possible? I only have a little time left in Thailand and want to make the most of it. On one hand I have heard the many good things about the talent on offer on the other only getting one shit in a two hour session doesn't seem like a lot. I mean for me at max maybe I am fucking for 20 to 30 minutes. What does one do with the rest of the time?[/QUOTE]Nataree is not multi-shot (for me at least). Generally it's all over in 1 to 1 and a half hours.
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The experiences of Natty Bumpo, Turgid and me all show that BBBJ is not that uncommon in Nataree. Maybe they just don't want to broadcast the fact to all the other girls downstairs. You get some starfish there but you also get some unexpectedly good service sometimes. I recently did pussy-to-mouth without even asking. She was riding me cowgirl and then just got off and starting sucking (CBJ).
One way to get what you want is to try to arrange everything with the papasan but another way is to go with the flow and accept that sometimes service will be great but other times not so good.
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[QUOTE=*****man;1744399]Nataree is not multi-shot (for me at least). Generally it's all over in 1 to 1 and a half hours.[/QUOTE]That is generally true, but just like the guys who get a BBBJ (which I have never received), one time I got a shot before the bath and one after.