IAA Messe Autoshow in Frankfurt
On the advice on another ISG fellow, I went back through the posts from the time of previous auto shows in Frankfurt. The 2016 show was for commercial vehicles, which is much less well attended. I found very few mentions of the show in 2016, so I focused on 2015. According to a press release, the show was the largest attended since 2007 with 931,000 visitors at an average age of 34 years (down from 37 years old the previous show). The show ran from September 16-27,2015. I read every post from Sept 10 through October 25 (four weeks past the end of the show) in the following forums: General Info (this forum), Oase, World, Palace, Sharks, Mainhatten, and Dietzenbach, as well as the Frankfurt forum in the Germany board.
What I found is almost nothing. In more than a hundred pages of threads from that time period, the auto show was mentioned around ten times. [B]The majority of those posts were guys wondering if there would be a lot more girls there[/B] -- apparently some guys were anxious for the show because they expected more girls to be working. [B]Almost no one mentioned that it was crowded with customers.[/B].
These posts are from the this forum:
[QUOTE=GeneralInfo]Not so many new girls at Sharks, Mainhattan, Oase for IAA?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GeneralInfo]Now today IAA ends. Effect of this year IAA was on lowest level since I visit FKK clubs. My expectation on quantity of girls come true. At least at Oase, Mainhattan and Palace were around 30 % more girls on peak days like Friday and Saturday and almost 50% more girls on weak days like Monday or Tuesday as on an average period without fair trade. Almost all regular top acts in the clubs were working and a lot of new girls. But from the part of new girls I haven't seen any new "Wow girl". All my rooms during IAA were with regular girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GeneralInfo]But the big disappointment was for the girls. In Oase, Mainhattan and Palace there were on almost every day only few additional IAA guests. At none day it was really crowded in these clubs. Max. Room waiting time 20 minutes, Most of day always some free rooms. Due to expected crowds even more worse bc a lot of locals avoid clubbing during IAA. So in general business for the girls during IAA was better than before but it wasn't the expected bonanza for the girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GeneralInfo]I've realized that Automech or IAA doesn't really draw new girls as I previously thought at Oase(probably not at other places either).[/QUOTE]I found three personal reports of specific clubs in their respective forums.
Oase
[QUOTE=Oase]From 5 to about 9 pm or so I swear there was about a 5:1 ratio of girls to guys. Like they ramped up the roster for IAA but all the automechanika attendees were out drinking with colleagues and prospects or something. You could tell that the girls were disappointed with the turnout--lots of doubles teams trying to stir up business, a sense of desparation as they went through their scripts.[/QUOTE]
Sharks
[QUOTE=Sharks][b]There were already alot of people there when I arrived at 1:30 pm obviously many people from auto show.[/b][/QUOTE]
Mainhatten
[QUOTE=Mainhatten]I was expecting many guys but there werent[/QUOTE]No posts in World or Palace mentioned the auto show. There was one post in the General board where one guy asked if it was a good time to visit Frankfurt, and someone responded "that is the last week of the big IAA trade fair. All Frankfurt FKK clubs have a good line up but in the evening still crowded. Cheers and enjoy."
And that's it. One report from Sharks that said it was busy in the afternoon one day. One guy warning that the clubs can get busy. Two guys saying Oase and Manhatten were not crowded, and four posts talking about the number and quality of the girls.
I'm going to stop worrying about the effect of the IAA on my time in Frankfurt and just going to enjoy my trip.
IAA - Arrive early / leave early
[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2071272]I'm going to stop worrying about the effect of the IAA on my time in Frankfurt and just going to enjoy my trip.[/QUOTE]Good work going through the old posts. I think your conclusion is quite right and make sense. There is too much speculation about the how the car exhibiton impact the clubs it sometimes gets too funny. It probably comes from a time more than 10 years ago when the clubs in Frankfurt were smaller and fewer. Also, the effect varies from club to club, from day to day and from one year to another. Nobody can really predict what kind of impact IAA will have on a specific club on a specific day. And; there is always a surprise along the way. Be prepared.
I have been at the Hessen clubs during the car exhibitions almost every year since 2004 (last time in 2014) and always had a good time. The reason is obvious: The line-up's swell 10- 20% at certain clubs as the girls are hopeful the guys will show up. Great opportunities!
The downside is: Risk of crowds. But the risk is less than in the past and usually limited to late at night at some clubs on some days.
The solution is very simple: Arrive early, leave early! Leave when it becomes unbearable. The crowds usually arrive after dinner (I. E. After 8 pm?), but sometimes earlier, and sometimes not at all. Avoid late night visits if you can (the risk is higher). Also; remember that "unbearable" is a personal feeling. What is "unbearable" to one person is not necessarily "unbearable" to you, and vice versa.
Days with higher risks: The last Friday / Saturday of the exhibition when "all" the messe visitors wants a FKK visit after dinner, but even on those days there can be good opportunities prior to 8 pm (there may be other days, maybe somebody else can fill in the gaps?).
Days with less risks: The last Sunday (the messe visitors have gone home, but the girls are still there). Also the days prior to the exhibition can be exceptional (more girls than usual).
Clubs with higher risks: Palace, Mainhattan and Oase (and in that order), but don't let that scare you away (just remember to arrive early / leave early). Sharks less affected by IAA. World not at all affected.
