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[QUOTE=MrHo;2488779]If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.
I think extra 20 euro for whole GFE package, BBBJ, DFK and usual DATY and fuck! So 90 euro 30 min sound fair enough![/QUOTE]There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.
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[QUOTE=Alessandro527;2488893]There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.[/QUOTE]Now there's something to learn from you. I'm going to use this tactic for any upsell going forward. Thanks man.
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[QUOTE=Alessandro527;2488893]There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.[/QUOTE]I thought to make a run to test car, to discover, but I always refuse HJ and CBJ, I hate grocery talk which kill my desire and need fluent kissing.
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Upcharge II
[QUOTE=MrHo;2488779]If they begin to charge for DATY, DFK, BBBJ each 20 euro then the price will be more than Globe Zurich and then we should just avoid Artemis.[/QUOTE]There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2488929]There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.[/QUOTE]I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!
We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2488929]There are already girls who charge for those things (and more) if they can get away with it. And there's always somebody willing to pay because he just has to have "this" or "that" no matter what. I've never paid extra for DFK or DATY, and I never will. I'll never pay extra for a lesbian show either. Seeing "her" lick the other "her" pussy does nothing for me. I pay for allotments of time with massage and vaginal sex included, and I pay extra for cum in mouth and anal sex. And when I was concerned about BBBJ / CIM going away forever, I paid extra to keep getting those BBBJs too. Now that I've already paid extra for BBBJs, I know I would do it again. But damn let's at least roll the price back some will you! A cost of 20 euros is better for my wallet for sure. Especially since I'm already dropping lot of extra coin on the anal.[/QUOTE]Why pay extra for BBBJ? They are still included as late as this year for me. OK, I have taken some 100 E sessions for an hour but that was more for DFK than BBBJ. I have received BBBJ in 50 E sessions in 2019 for sure. Only one trip this year and I can't remember if I did any 50 E sessions or if all of them were 100 E for an hour. What I do know is that I have never paid extra money for BBBJ.
I have taken longer sessions than 30 min for the sake of DFK. That has not been a huge change because even a few years ago there were some girls who did not give up DFK in 30 M and needed additional incentive and taking longer sessions was the way for me.
I would hate to pay any extra for BBBJ alone. If the rates become 150 for an hour with BBBJ I would be quite upset.
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[QUOTE=Alessandro527;2488893]There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.[/QUOTE]She is bullshitting LOL! If that is the case, I ain't paying a penny!
I was in Artemis last summer, service was good to me, but Artemis service went down after corona crisis, but hey Artemis raise the price for all including entrance! Service should improve!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2488944]I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off!
We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL![/QUOTE]You won't be getting anything for 60 euros. Minimum now is 70/30 without BBBJ.
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1 Hour
[QUOTE=MrHo;2488944]I am willing to pay up to 100 euro for 30 min full GFE session, if it get more! Then she get 60 euro 30 min full fuck by me and I am out the door! LOL No way, they going to rip me off! Little up sell with good service is ok, not rip off! We are prostitute hunters, we won't be hunted LOL![/QUOTE]I don't do 30 minute sessions. I like to do at least an hour. That way I don't feel like I need to be rushing around to get what I want.
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[QUOTE=Alessandro527;2488893]There was a girl I met in Artemis she told me that for 60/30 min she does just covered BJ and hand job, not even sex.
I told her I would give her 20 euro for that and she just walked away.
I don't like Artemis I think it is the most upsell club.[/QUOTE]So when did FKK's start recruiting from the most obscure eastern European strip clubs?
Way to totally kill off the hobby. I avoid certain strip clubs I have been to like the pest. Like in Riga and Prague. (Ukrainian strip clubs are better though).
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2489457]I don't do 30 minute sessions. I like to do at least an hour. That way I don't feel like I need to be rushing around to get what I want.[/QUOTE]I do 30 min sometimes to see how she is in room, then I will repeat one hour if she is good next day or bit later when she return from shower after my first session LOL!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2489443]You won't be getting anything for 60 euros. Minimum now is 70/30 without BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Right, price increased, I do not mind as long as there is good service returned for price increased, but I must say Artemis has aggressive stance on their price strategy considering their service level to be not as good as NRW clubs! Unless you pay up.
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Artemis prices
So entrance 90 € and 30 minute basic session is 70 € which sums up to 160 €. Quite expensive for a rushed quick session with condom blow job and probably not the best performance by the girl either.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2489968]So entrance 90 and 30 minute basic session is 70 which sums up to 160 . Quite expensive for a rushed quick session with condom blow job and probably not the best performance by the girl either.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. The only way it is worthwhile visiting the club if you have time to spend several hours, choose your girl (s) carefully and are able to do 1 hour+ rooms so you get the full treatment. But even then I found it very hard to persuade anyone to do BBBJ without paying the extra 20 e. It appears this has become a club standard. Artemis was never a cheap option. As has been reported here many times. Until there is another competing FKK in Berlin this will go unchecked.
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Berlin said today bars, restaurants and shops will have to shut down between 11 pm To 6 am From October 10th. Assume Artemis will have to close between those times as well but it didn't mention brothel specifically.