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Siri,
Who was this German superstar at Globe you went with for 3 hours? A name please!
I agree the more clubs open the better.
The Cane — one solution is to take a break to recharge your batteries. The other Is to explore new areas of sex like BDSM etc.
TheCane and XXL. I can understand your ennui, after, in my case, 16 years in the clubs. XXL makes an important point for me: it is nice that there is a somewhere to go where one is welcome (although I am lucky, in that where I live, young women are friendly to old relics like me). And that as time passes, cumming can sometimes feel like hard work
Years ago I tired of spending money just to increase the total number of pussies I fucked, and started to focus more on getting the best service (sex skills wise) possible. And this for me was accompanied by the buzz of some chemistry (even if to a greater or lesser degree a stage act by the girl). It became more and more a personal interaction. Inevitable was that the bar I was setting got higher and higher. In 2016 and 2017 I was failing to find girls to meet that level, and was concluding that I was past it, too old to interest the girls (even with my euros) and bored. There were a few girls who briefly piqued my interest but nothing at the highest level.The scamming at Oase and Sharks made me think (almost) I would be better off drinking coffee on a high street and watching the passing students.
Strangely this year my perseverance has paid off. My recent trips to World and Freude found plenty of girls for me to be interested in and I am back in my old ways, counting the days until the next trip.What was the trigger?. I guess it was a combination of having "home" clubs where I was recognised and respected (as a customer), finding attractive girls who give top service with no overcharging, and finding some girls who were great at sex, and finding a new favourite (even if she is a toe-rag lol).
Not sure if this is any use to you. I guess it was a question of working out what I want to get from FKK and then searching for it.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]I kind of understand, sometimes I feel like that too, I increasingly feel like that. Recently my attention has turned more and more to non pros, I do look a lot younger than I am according to most people and am in pretty good shape so non pros are not out of bounds for me, my guess is that applies to you as well Cane.
The truth is that we do this for the expediency of it, the ease with which we get our most exotic sexual fantasies fulfilled. There is also the joy of travelling and exploring. There is a reason why I keep changing clubs and locales, that is to keep the excitement alive.
I have been meeting non pros more and more very recently and am discovering a certain type of pleasure not available in our hobby. Of course it is not as easy to bag them, it is not a matter of just paying 50 Euros plus. But I do know what you mean.
I had a pretty easy painless divorce, financially wise, but I kind of lost my trust and confidence in women but found pros to be a breath of fresh air, at least they were honest about what they were selling and giving it to you up front. The transactional part of it was actually great. I picked up my first pro by accident in 2010, I mean I went there to bang her and she asked me for my phone number and we had sex for free the entire next day, I never paid her anything but a normal price lunch. I started getting confused after this, I had been mongering since 2005 totally devoid of feelings, or at least I thought so.
After you have done as many hookers and I have every which way, does the thrill of it start ebbing away? Do we just need a break, or can this sport only provide so many dividends. It is like drugs perhaps, you need to go stronger and stronger for the same feeling until you can't get high anymore.
I am more into non pros than I have ever been for a decade or so, however I do worry that once I get a girlfriend and become used to the sex, at the point it is no longer novel, I will try to sneak away to fkks on every opportunity.
Maybe you get bored this way and then bored that way no matter what. I do know one thing, I would never get married again.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2228474] however I do worry that once I get a girlfriend and become used to the sex, at the point it is no longer novel, I will try to sneak away to fkks on every opportunity.
Maybe you get bored this way and then bored that way no matter what. .[/QUOTE]For me, you are dead right here.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]Well I have come to realise that my bar goes up year by year. It doesn't always mean that the girls get worse. But my expectations goes up. I believe Optimist has a point here too. Take a break of maybe as much as a full year, and then return to see if you got the motivation back.
I am also struggling a bit with motivation. Mainly because of two things: 1. A third of the interesting girls upsells to an annoying extent moving the focus away from fun towards money, money, money. I don't want to feel like an ATM. Thankfully not all girls are like this. Yet. 2. My bar is now so high that I struggle to find top girls. And it requires a lot of time just to scout these top girls. But the dead runs where I feel the lineup is worse than last time, feels worse and worse on the motivation. Thankfully I have some top girls on whatsapp. But also the top girls are now so spread out that I feel my top 10 girls is divided on 7 or 8 clubs. And then how to choose where to go? And no clubs have more than 3 girls I am very interested in. Wellcum had over 3, but not more right now after 3 of my top 5 left.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]I have been mongering for over 20 years this year. I am not sure if the bored is mindset, but it is true to point out that what so called normal guys who do not get it think of wow is not wow for me anymore because I have fucked those level of girls in the way that I want pretty much also that include some girls behind screen like porn stars and celebrity before they become famous.
I think when supply is taken away from you or you never had supply, you become more longing for it.
So if you stop going to FKK or related for few years then live in middle of nowhere or in the place you cannot fuck young beautiful girl one after another, then you going to want it again if you still lust biologically.
My hurdle has gone up to be wow yes, but still when I find or more like if I find stunner level to my liking, suddenly I still got this excitement that I am going to fuck this stunner level beauty. First few time with new found young beauty is the best and after while. I do look for another stunner level beauty.
It is just that hurdle has gone up and line up is not as saturated as before so it takes time till I find the one that I consider wow stunner level, so waiting time is boring. Before it was amazing because it was sure thing in big FKK club, I found at least one new stunner on few days basis or daily when lucky.
Same apply to home, I do find wow level stunner Eurasian here that I often bareback, but that is like once or twice per year, so waiting time is boring. But in life we need something to look forward to, and I always look forward to new stunner that I have not met yet that I am going to surely fuck. Meanwhile I attend to other joys in life like sports, gourmet etc.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]What you feel is quite normal and also true for me. I remember my first FKK visit and how not demanding at all I was, today my expectations are so high that I can easily leave a club without any room, the girls must be beautiful, fresh. I will never go with a veteran girl just to get mechanical sex. Today there is a lack of newcomers in the business most of the girls are well known by me just because they move from one club to another. In the last year I saved a lot of cash because I couldn't find girls to spend it for, probably the things have not changed that much but I have changed, also the fact that knowing so many things that are behind the scene, like pimps, boy friends, husband, personal stories of some girls is not increasing my libido.
[QUOTE=XXL;2228460]Exactly how I feel now in my hotel room after an ok visit to Oase. I wonder what I'm chasing exactly. It cannot be orgasm because that is now much easy to attain fapping than having sex. I had a dizzy spell today after overdoing the pumping in my 1st session at Oase. Some rebound hypotension from trying too hard. Sex is becoming hard work. I feel I have reached the end of the road with women, or at least with the type of women and sex accessible to me. I feel I would need to spend 10 times what I am spending to get a kick from real sex these days (and I don't have that kind of money). If I were markedly younger / fitter I would give up real women for a while and immerse myself into drugs + phonesex on Niteflirt. Too old for that kind of shit now.
Am I visiting sex clubs not for the sex but because they are the only places where I feel 100% welcome as a lone male?
What could be worth trying to get out of this rut? Swinging? You need a talented high maintenance mistress for swinging to work, good luck finding one. Africa? Black gazelles with pornstar bodies you can fuck bareback. They are no longer as abundant as before even if you are willing to put up with the hardship and hassle of African mongering.[/QUOTE]We should never forget that most of the mongers are more frustrated after leaving the room that when entering, you just by sex but most of us are looking for something else. It is not a problem of age.
Try to get a stable relation (what I am doing) and you will see that the sex will be so much more intense and great that with a prostitute. You just know now that all the pussy are just pussy and probably you are looking for something more complex.
I think what I probably need to do is plan to take a long break off. And then when I come back, just stick to the two places that have never let me down. That would be Brazil and Germany. I've traveled to enough other places around the world that I don't feel like I would be missing anything. It would be great to get that feeling back that I had when I first started my career going to Costa Rica, but I think that's probably long gone, and will never come back. I would fly in for 10 days or so and fuck every pretty thing to my tastes that moved! Day 1 I would slam fuck like 7 different girls and nut in every single one of them! Day 2 fuck like 4 or 5 more and cum multiple times. Day 3 fuck 1 and jizz. Then day 4 not fuck anybody hahaha! But then after that settle into a steady flow of 2 a day until the end of the trip. All different girls! Those were the days! I wasn't getting it like that back at home. And unless you're a rock star who was?
I discovered bigger and better and have not been back to Costa Rica in years. But, I will always remember it fondly because that's where I started my international mongering career. I've been planning to take time away from the hobby. I think that I will go for one more year, then go ahead and take that break without any firm thoughts about when I might come back. And when I do, I will stick almost exclusively with Brazil and Germany. Switzerland would be good too, but it's too expensive for me given the length of sessions that I enjoy (1 hour) and my strong desire for a high percentage of anal. In no other countries have I found P4P anal sex to be as prevalent as in Brazil and Germany. Not even close.
Also, I have to say that I am "afraid" to go back to non-pros. After a decade and a half of quality PSE sex with so, so many young, attractive prostitutes, I'm pretty certain that the non-pro scene could never satisfy me sexually again. So, I will be sticking with the pros for the rest of my life, and I continue to have zero interest in marriage. After all. I like saying "how much". That part of the excitement has never left me. To purchase the bodily orifices of a willing other person for my own sexual pleasures, and hopefully for hers too. I like saying how much and paying for it in an open and transparent, mutually agreed upon transaction. I like that. Yes I do.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]When you are aware that you are the 10000 or more guys fucking her and or the 10th of the day obviously you have problem to get motivated, most of the girls are so cleaned that they smell nothing, they behave like professional which is a negative point for me.
IMHO, there are two main problems:
Problem one: More girls / women a monger has sex with, higher sexual sensibility threshold he gets and therefore smaller number of WGs can make him sexually excited. After a monger had sex with hundreds (if not thousands) of WGs, fewer WGs could really turn him on.
My possible solution: IMO if a monger found a WG who still really made him sexually excited and turned him on in a FKK club, he should try to get this WG's contact info, not for chat, but for tracking her down and knowing where she is working. So next time when the monger visits the club she works, he can always at least do her in worst case if he can't find any other WG who can really turn him on. If the monger finds another girl in that club who makes him sexually excited, try to get her contact info. This should become a routine for a monger. Bear in mind, this method may cost mongers a little more because Romanian WGs, as I read on ISG, tend to ask mongers for money via contacts.
Problem two: our testosterone level is declining along with our ageing. We don't have the same sex drive as we used to have. So the same optics of WGs may not be as sexy and attractive as used to be.
My possible solution: IMO a monger should look into nutritional supplements. Personally I take the supplements of Maca, Multivitamins, Zinc, Magnesium and so on daily and have a high-fat (about 40% of daily calorie) diet. Nutritional supplements do make big difference in terms of sex drive, semen volume, refractory period (sex) and so on. (Disclaimers: I am not a medical doctor and above statements are not medical advice. Every reader should consult with his own doctor and make his own decision)
Phase one: You find FKK format and before going, you are full of doubt because just 50 euro for 30 min? Girls must be ugly.
Phase two: You decide to take a chance and actually go and try FKK and big bang happen. Wow you actually find some young hot girls in FKK and you have time of your life in FKK with sessions after sessions. Finally found sex Shangri la phase.
Phase three: You cannot wait to go back to FKK and each time you go, you go all out craving for most beautiful girls to your taste in club, addiction phase.
Phase four: At this time you are few years into FKK mongering and had multiple girls one after another to your dream taste by this time. Hurdle went up, but still fucking stunners, but what to do next phase.
Phase five: OK stunners are good optic sex, but now I want to try something new, let go for threesome, getting dick sucked by two or three girls at same time, let try anal sex, let try black girl and blonde girl at same time, let try Muslim girls etc. Experimental phase.
Phase six: You repeat phase 2 to 5 in mixture for couple of years and you begin to explore different clubs in different cities across Germany and you even may hit few towns during your FKK trip or weekend.
Phase seven: You are veteran now, and you become cross road to push it to the limit or you become bit Yoda and become bit philosophical approaching FKK or begin to get bored.
Phase eight: You may not go one year, then eventually it may seems to fade away some day, some day you want to go, then one day it pulls you right back in and phases 2 to 7 continues on and on LOL.
Like god father, when I thought I was out, they pull me right back in LOL. As long as men remain straight and able to get it up, one can never stop the FKK mongering or mongering because like pringle ad says, once you pop you cannot stop, once you monger in right way, you can never stop.
I got into mongering at age of 17 in Switzerland, ever since then, it has been big part of my life and it works as good tanqulizer and safety haven or safety net, mongering is big part of my life and I never regretted any time or money I spent on mongering and I remember every bit of it.
Somehow mongering can get nicely nostalgic and sentimental in comfortable way for me. I even remember the time surrounding mongering, like opening window after coming back to hotel from FKK and seeing the view over Frankfurt and tell my self, I lived life today etc.
Mongering brought many meaning and value to my life and surround that time of mongering trip.
I've had a few whatsapp contacts lost over the years after my girl have seen me go with another girl. In a way they feel they own me if they give me their contact info. So this is my main problem here.
When it comes to personal sex drive I found out this summer that running uphill is the best thing to do to prepare. You both increase your cardio, and lift your knees high up for great tight blood circulation.
No pain, no game.
Supply and demand curves apply to experiences / gratification as well. Have too many good experiences, the gratification from the next good one begins to dwindle.
Those that are feeling bored, have you tried taking a very long break — say, at least 6 months to a year — and did you still feel bored at the end?
Technically, I first paid for sex nearly 30 years ago. But I have neither mongered throughout that period nor was a such prolific monger like most of you here. And my first FKK was just 5 to 6 years ago. I still have a huge amount of thrill going in on the first day of the visit. Sure, by the 4th day, all the pussies and tits start blending but the sights never cease to thrill even if the dick is not fully upto the fight.
The body and the blood flow recover in just 24 to 36 hours. I can come back from a long FKK visit having popped as many times as I can, feel that there is not one more drop left in my body, but in less than 24 hours after I land I am ready to jack off to a happy memory from the just concluded trip. Obviously, this is all in the mind and the body is just fine — I think this is true for most of us here.