Seoul

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2700814]This seems to be a good find. However aren't you worried of going bareback? Don't you think that's way too risky especially with a working lady. Wonder why the establishment agreed for BB.[/QUOTE]Buddy,

To be honest, I'm not overly concerned. STFs are not as common nor as easily transmissible as many people believe. This is, of course, not accounting for HSV-1 and HPV, which most non-monogamous adults have already contracted. Hell, from what I understand, there are more adults with these particular viruses than without them.

Another reason I'm not concerned is because the sex workers I've been with seem to practice good sexual hygiene. They thoroughly wash up before and after and they have always ensured that I wash up as well. They even seem to take a moment to inspect my genitals in the shower. Yes, I know the limits of a visual inspection, and I know that soap and hot water are imperfect. However, the simple act of washing up remains a very effective way to prevent the transmission of most disease.

Another preventative measure which might be overlooked by most people is ample lubrication. Thankfully, good sex workers make sure to stay well lubricated. Whether through natural vaginal lubrication or the application of gel, keeping things slippery is one way to avoid abrasions and tears. As open wounds are the primary pathway for these types of viruses, lubrication is an excellent preventative measure.

Thankfully, I've also never met a sex worker in Korea with sores on her mouth or pussy. If I met one, I would hope that I had the wherewithal to walk away, not least of all because it is simply incredibly unattractive to be covered in oozing lesions.

I know that you might be thinking that HIV and Hepatitis see lurk around every nook and cranny of the human body, but I count my lucky stars that they're incredibly difficult to transmit through non-aggressive, heterosexual vaginal and oral intercourse. Although these viruses exist in all manner of bodily fluid, they're very rarely transmitted through saliva or vaginal fluid, which is why these diseases have a much bigger impact on the gay community and intravenous drug users. I'm fully aware that junky prostitutes in the West act as vectors for the transmission of STDs in the heterosexual community. However, Korea has such strict drug laws that I imagine most women here are drug free. To be quite frank, I even avoid women who smoke cigarettes, and I'm sure if a woman is tobacco free that she isn't spending her free time shooting up in some alley in Seoul.

Also, thanks to modem science most stds can be treated if not cured.

Now, I'm in no way endorsing bareback. I agree that it entails a certain amount of risk. However, it's an available option with many sex workers in Korea and it's one I find to be particularly attractive. Call me old fashioned, but I've never much enjoyed wearing a condom. Even with girlfriends I have not been known to wear condoms, and have only done so a handful of times. And in those cases, I wore a condom to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

Considering that sex isn't just the act of penetration, and that bodily fluids get swapped during kissing as well as oral, wearing a condom can be a bit like walking into a summer rainstorm with an umbrella and not expecting your feet to get wet.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2701511]Buddy,

To be honest, I'm not overly concerned. STFs are not as common nor as easily transmissible as many people believe. This is, of course, not accounting for HSV-1 and HPV, which most non-monogamous adults have already contracted. Hell, from what I understand, there are more adults with these particular viruses than without them.

Another reason I'm not concerned is because the sex workers I've been with seem to practice good sexual hygiene. They thoroughly wash up before and after and they have always ensured that I wash up as well. They even seem to take a moment to inspect my genitals in the shower. Yes, I know the limits of a visual inspection, and I know that soap and hot water are imperfect. However, the simple act of washing up remains a very effective way to prevent the transmission of most disease.

Another preventative measure which might be overlooked by most people is ample lubrication. Thankfully, good sex workers make sure to stay well lubricated. Whether through natural vaginal lubrication or the application of gel, keeping things slippery is one way to avoid abrasions and tears. As open wounds are the primary pathway for these types of viruses, lubrication is an excellent preventative measure.

Thankfully, I've also never met a sex worker in Korea with sores on her mouth or pussy. If I met one, I would hope that I had the wherewithal to walk away, not least of all because it is simply incredibly unattractive to be covered in oozing lesions..[/QUOTE]I understand. I guess it's more of a mental block than anything else.

Wanted to check if you could share the details of the place / location and if possible give a reference for me?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2699676]I don't know what I'd do without help of guys here.

I have tried all massage places I have seen from street with rotating poles, and what I found was ladies too old and ugly to be even approched, or (on my first night) a lady with face all ruined by surgery.

I went at the address of the place above. I had EXACTLY the same experience as you Buddy1978. Open, but empty. There were cameras on from the desk, all switched on, but nobody. Rooms were some open some closed, but empty. I though to use the toilet, but I did not.

Then I went there, and I've got my best experience in Seoul so far. Thai girl, extremely active and experienced. The only thing I did not lake was the fake big tits and even face adjusted by surgery, but she was pretty after all.

The prices I was shown were 60 k for 1 h aroma massage. Then I gave 100 k to the girl for extras. I understand I have overpayed. Sorry.

I have surveyed Opgani, and I understand I am missing a lot. I have no chance to explore that world without a word of Korean and in 2-3 days.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. Even I didn't like the lip surgery that she had and the fake tits. However when I had gone to castle anma, the one that I got for 310 k was certainly worse. By comparison this was a much better price point for a better experience. If there are any other better options available in Seoul, I am still in search for the same.

I was in Itaewon today and wanted to see the oft discussed hill. Tiffany, Pandora, Nymph etc all seem to be open. The lights were on and signs were also lit up. But when I knocked or tried to enter, they were all locked. It's a bit weird.

Anyone been here recently? Can someone throw some light on why the signage's are lit up and they seem open from the outside but no one opens the door?

Also is anyone worth visiting?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2701644]I was in Itaewon today and wanted to see the oft discussed hill. Tiffany, Pandora, Nymph etc all seem to be open. The lights were on and signs were also lit up. But when I knocked or tried to enter, they were all locked. It's a bit weird.

Anyone been here recently? Can someone throw some light on why the signage's are lit up and they seem open from the outside but no one opens the door?

Also is anyone worth visiting?[/QUOTE]Usually means a customer is getting his money's worth inside. All you have to do is return 30 mins to an hour later.

I visited the Kiss Room closest to Hongdae exit 1 today. 1 hour for 80 k, HJ 50, BJ 100, FS 150. Went for the BJ and was not disappointed. The girl was 25, an office worker, small be cup but a good attitude. The other place had a two hour waiting time, so I'll try that another time. Overall a pleasant experience, curious to try more places like this. Does anyone know of any in Busan perhaps?

[QUOTE=Frituurpan;2701251]These instructions are a little outdated but easy enough to follow. Kiss Time is called Secret Kiss these days, in the building with boss. I'll report back when I've sampled the wares, so to speak.[/QUOTE]Hope to hear back with some good news that the place is still up and running and that you had a good experience. I figure my info may be a bit out dated since I haven't been able to go to Korea since the pandemic but honestly, I feel a post like that is way more useful than most other posts. It's good that the forum got people posting again but I do feel most people hold back on specific details for whatever reason they may have. I've noticed oftentimes in these types of forums people hold back specifics because they want to keep specific girls or info to see a girl for themselves and that somehow some think that's beneficial. These girls don't see any of us as more than an ATM and we pay for the services to have a good time. When she's not seeing you she's seeing another guy whether it be someone from here or others who know how to find them.

I only say all this because I feel that at least with my post, you can actually find a specific place for a specific thing. A good kiss hang in this case. I've wanted to find a hyugetel in Korea but even scouring through many pages of posts on here, most info is quite vague and I speak some Korean. Even with that I haven't seen any info they really helps me in finding and getting access to a hyugetel. I hope that people will start posting more detailed stuff and understand that keeping a girl busy is actually mutually beneficial because they're more likely to stay and keep their services available to you as well. We can't possibly see a girl 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Someone else is going to be seeing her.

I'll probably be back in Seoul later this year and report back on some Anma's and other places I've been. Hopefully I'll be able to find a good hyugetel experience and come back with specifics on what sites, kakao ids or whatever to find them at.

In the meantime I can only post info from past experiences. Happy hunting everyone.

Hey guys.

Been a while since I perused this website (about 10-11 years ago in 2011). I believe I was the first one to let people know of the 'new' trend of mongering moving towards officetel / online adverts like optime / opstar / opgani about 10 years ago when most of the mongering were done in RLDs (goddamn I miss the old RLDs.) and anmas. Well life happened between 2011 and 2022 but now I find myself in Korea for about 1 year and wanting to relive my youthful memories. Previously, I've held 5 or so meetups with expats and foreigners and we had an absolute blast; meeting up for dinner, drinks and mongering afterwards. I would like to organise something similar but limited to 3-4 people in a group max.

- Since the scene has changed quite drastically since 10 years ago, we'll probably be going to officetels (reservations through phone booking), magic mirror, room salon, gunma, or try our luck at the VVIP hotel salons (this is where you pay anywhere between $700-2 k for an idol trainee, weather caster, small time actresses, etc) most likely in Gangnam area.

- I am Korean and I've had success getting places to accept foreigners where they would normally not accept.

Please send an expression of interest with the dates of your stay in Korea.

[QUOTE=Zarcady;2702040]Hey guys.

Been a while since I perused this website (about 10-11 years ago in 2011). I believe I was the first one to let people know of the 'new' trend of mongering moving towards officetel / online adverts like optime / opstar / opgani about 10 years ago when most of the mongering were done in RLDs (goddamn I miss the old RLDs.) and anmas. Well life happened between 2011 and 2022 but now I find myself in Korea for about 1 year and wanting to relive my youthful memories. Previously, I've held 5 or so meetups with expats and foreigners and we had an absolute blast; meeting up for dinner, drinks and mongering afterwards. I would like to organise something similar but limited to 3-4 people in a group max.

- Since the scene has changed quite drastically since 10 years ago, we'll probably be going to officetels (reservations through phone booking), magic mirror, room salon, gunma, or try our luck at the VVIP hotel salons (this is where you pay anywhere between $700-2 k for an idol trainee, weather caster, small time actresses, etc) most likely in Gangnam area.

- I am Korean and I've had success getting places to accept foreigners where they would normally not accept.

Please send an expression of interest with the dates of your stay in Korea.[/QUOTE]You're in Korea now? How soon did you expect to meet up?

[QUOTE=Frituurpan;2701924]I visited the Kiss Room closest to Hongdae exit 1 today. 1 hour for 80 k, HJ 50, BJ 100, FS 150. Went for the BJ and was not disappointed. The girl was 25, an office worker, small be cup but a good attitude. The other place had a two hour waiting time, so I'll try that another time. Overall a pleasant experience, curious to try more places like this. Does anyone know of any in Busan perhaps?[/QUOTE]Hi.

So its 80 k to get in the door and extra for extras? So 230 for FS?

[QUOTE=Frituurpan;2701924]I visited the Kiss Room closest to Hongdae exit 1 today. 1 hour for 80 k, HJ 50, BJ 100, FS 150. Went for the BJ and was not disappointed. The girl was 25, an office worker, small be cup but a good attitude. The other place had a two hour waiting time, so I'll try that another time. Overall a pleasant experience, curious to try more places like this. Does anyone know of any in Busan perhaps?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update! I don't think I've been to the one you're referring to. Can you describe it better? Name? What it's next to? Directions? Do you remember the name of the girl? I'the love to check out the place. For your Busan reference, here's a map I found reading through some random forums. I know it's a little outdated but I'm sure some of them are still there. It might be a fun adventure to check on some of these places and perhaps give a little report back 😉.

[URL]https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/ru/map/korea-night-life_247063[/URL]#18/37. 48432/126. 93021.

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2702051]You're in Korea now? How soon did you expect to meet up?[/QUOTE]No expectations currently of any particular dates. Depending on who PMs and if any of the dates line up.

Yes, I'm currently in Korea and will be here for around a year so I'm pretty flexible with the dates.

[QUOTE=Zarcady;2702040]Hey guys,

Been a while since I perused this website (about 10-11 years ago in 2011). I believe I was the first one to let people know of the 'new' trend of mongering moving towards officetel / online adverts like optime / opstar / opgani about 10 years ago when most of the mongering were done in RLDs (goddamn I miss the old RLDs.) and anmas. Well life happened between 2011 and 2022 but now I find myself in Korea for about 1 year and wanting to relive my youthful memories. Previously, I've held 5 or so meetups with expats and foreigners and we had an absolute blast; meeting up for dinner, drinks and mongering afterwards. I would like to organise something similar but limited to 3-4 people in a group max.

- Since the scene has changed quite drastically since 10 years ago, we'll probably be going to officetels (reservations through phone booking), magic mirror, room salon, gunma, or try our luck at the VVIP hotel salons (this is where you pay anywhere between $700-2 k for an idol trainee, weather caster, small time actresses, etc) most likely in Gangnam area.

- I am Korean and I've had success getting places to accept foreigners where they would normally not accept.

Please send an expression of interest with the dates of your stay in Korea.[/QUOTE]Have you tried Miari lately or plan to?

[QUOTE=OralSea;2546897]Do you know about MVP / VIP massage? Go out Gangnam station exit 5, go strait, take a right at the next ally and another right and it's on the right hand side In B1. Total distance from exit 5 is about 100 M or less. They had Chinese there a couple years ago, but I don't live in Seoul anymore Good luck.[/QUOTE]I tried MVP / VIP two times, I admit because desperate on one my lonely walks late after dinner around Gangnam Station.

I write this post to point out that the direction above made me walk needlessly around the building and enter from the back stairs behind the building, when immediately in front of Exit 5, below the rotating pole, there is the front stair that takes down to basement and to the place.

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2689510]
- Massage MVP VIP (36 Seocho-daero 78-gil) : Quality is lower than before, older girls (120 k).
[/QUOTE]Price is as above.
Thank you so much PH, because you are one of few ones who gave directions here and gave me at least points to seek.

I tried two times. First time it was a lady around 35 yo, good attitude, kind, looking not bad (just ok). Then I returned another night, and this time the lady was older, uglier, mechanic and not really exciting me in any way. I left without cumming. At times I prefer to keep my precious juice and libido than wasting on the wrong person.

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2689510]
- Massage (3729'41.0"and 12701'03.5"E) : Similar to MVP VIP, older girls, quality may vary but good attitude (120 k).
[/QUOTE]I tried to find the above coordinates on Google, but no luck. I think the format is not compatible with Google.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2702077]Hi.

So its 80 k to get in the door and extra for extras? So 230 for FS?[/QUOTE]1 hour is not the only option (20/30 minutes are possible too, don't remember those prices), but you're right. I mostly went because it seemed like an interesting experience, and I was horny, haha.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2702085]Thanks for the update! I don't think I've been to the one you're referring to. Can you describe it better? Name? What it's next to? Directions? Do you remember the name of the girl? I'the love to check out the place. For your Busan reference, here's a map I found reading through some random forums. I know it's a little outdated but I'm sure some of them are still there. It might be a fun adventure to check on some of these places and perhaps give a little report back 😉.

[URL]https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/ru/map/korea-night-life_247063[/URL]#18/37. 48432/126. 93021.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the map! Actually, I'll just provide two links on Google Street View:

* "My" place: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/mmk6Uru7UheCwtUz7[/URL].

* The place you described before: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/YyjSVnghaC2kQtUo6[/URL].

A picture is worth a thousand words And I agree with you, I wish there were more posts with concrete information. I hope this contributes a little to being the change I want to see in the world.