Santo Domingo

I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Peñalba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.

After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.

From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.

Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.

There is not much to do in Sd during the week but having a live in date will help. 4 days is a long time to be with a fuck buddy. I usually want them gone after 2. El Conde has plenty of scammers so be careful. You can do the movies at the mall and casinos for entertainment. Hope her English is decent so you can do not get to bored. Having a positive attitude is key to having a good time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1702915]I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.

After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.

From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.

Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.[/QUOTE]

There is not much to do in Sd during the week but having a live in date will help. 4 days is a logng time to be with a fuck buddy. I usually want them gone after 2. El Conde has plenty of scammers so be careful. Cab drivers being the key scammers in SD. If someone is real friendly and speaks good English look out. You can do the movies at the malls which are excellent or casinos for entertainment. Hope her English is decent so you do not get to bored. Practise your basic words and you will do well. I enjoy having coffee at Grands /Pacos. A great place to watch the seen and often street walkers posting. Having a positive attitude is key to having a good time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1702915]I've taken the 7 days at the place in BC off my schedule. I don't expect to be closer to BC than the airport. Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.

After that I'm off to Santiago for 2 or 3 days. I have another who is either a nympho or semi pro lined up there. That might work into a 3 way, but haven't worked the details out yet.

From Santiago, I'm heading to Sosua for a few days. Probably get there April 28.

Thanks to everyone for all the different advice. Maybe I can do this without screwing up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1702915]Last night I got some commitment from a non pro in San Pedro de Macoris. She's originally from SD and is going to meet me there on April 21 and stay until April 25. I booked the days at Hotel Conde de Pealba. I'll be on El Conde if she flakes on me or doesn't make the cut, and if she shows I'll have a tour guide. Face is an 8, 9 once the braces come off. Body is a 7 to 8. Seems like she's just bored and looking for a bit of excitement.[/QUOTE]Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know. They would probably also rail on you for having a chick commit 5 days of her life to you and upon meeting her and her "not making the cut" you diss her, especially with her being a non-pro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1703123]Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know.[/QUOTE]There was a forum member here that would agree. He posted this not too long ago:

[QUOTE=TeeBone;1685305]Picked up Yarnira from Huigey. This one was also prearranged bike night number two from Dominican Cupid. 23 years old and talked an excellent game about doing everything, loves give oral and take it anally! All she stated she wanted was make up and three bottles of perfume from the US. Picked her up and on the way back to Boca Chica (1.5 hour ride) I should've known immediately that she was kind of a slob by the way she tore off her fake nails and threw them on the floor of the rental car. WTF I decided to hit La Ramona to see the sights and grab a bite to eat. Did not see much that appealed except an Italian restaurant. As soon as we hit La Ramona it was papi take me shopping, take me shopping. I said NO, lesson learned from night two. These chicas just want as much as they can get. She finally excepted the fact I was not taking her shopping after 10 minutes. It was a long ride, so I figured I would test her game and get some road head. She claimed she would not because it would be a distraction for me driving. Okay I had agree with that one, there are some crazy drivers here. She said as soon as we got to the hotel it would be no problem. As soon as we get to the hotel she was reluctant. WTF! She was like how much the narrow are you going to give me. I was like, hey I brought you the gift she wanted, I can take you home right now I don't care but no money! She knew I was a little pissed and told me to hit the bed and she began to work her best. BBBJ was fair and she tried to be extremely sensitive. Eventually she was too hot and wanted some herself. I had brought an HIV test kit because if she was given up the ass I wanted it uncovered. We grab the kit 20 minutes later results were negative. She began to question me to ensure I had taken test and I told her of course that's why I wanted you to have one. We started to get the business and she began to get extremely crazy with the hip action. She must've thought this was the best way to finish the job. It was too crazy. I decided it was time to go bare and hit the anal! She was not able to accomplish the task, claiming pene "tu mucho grande" Hahahaha ok my fault, I thought you said you could!! Nonetheless completed the task and it was about 8:30, still pretty early. Decided to run the store grab some beer and make it an evening in. My guest determined it was time for me to take her out on the town, the evening already was not as promised so I was not putting in any more then I had to. She wanted an elegant dinner and then the disco. She eventually gave him for Burger King and beer on the patio hahahaha. Throughout the evening she kept wanting use me as a footstool and often asked for me to "fetch" her one thing and another, my phone, more beer, and a few other rude things but I forget what they were. This was on top of her being a slob leaving trash throughout the hotel and just make a general mess of everything she touched. As we started to turn in she jumped in the shower. Immediately she came out and wanted more sexo! I said okay it's about time she kicked in for some extra action, but again no " chupar papi pene" WTF! She claimed before that she wanted mucho Leche and did it all. In every hole. Whatever. Afterwards I decided to crash and she decided to watch television. To my dismay she changed channels damn near as fast as you could push the button on the remote. Continuously. I often had to tell her to turn it down because she kept turning the volume up to a ridiculous level. Okay next comes the morning. I awake to a slightly gentle but extremely irritating multiple slap to the face. Again WTF! Here at 6 o'clock in the morning and she wants me to get up and turn on the television because the remote doesn't work anymore and wants me to run to Burger King to get her some breakfast! This is it's fucking crazy, but she Medledy turned it to being nice and kissing my neck and trying to make things better. I got up made me some coffee and send the next room for a while. She again asked for breakfast, I told her in a little while I was going to take shower. She mentioned I did not have to drive her home but she would take the bus. My previous night 1000RD bus fare taught me a lesson to ask about the price from a trusted friend. He mentioned the bus fare was 250. What a deal and I don't have to drive her back. I agreed and quickly ran to Burger King to get fucking breakfast and change to get her on the road! After breakfast she started asking about If I liked her poor mother and if I could give her 3000 pesos to be nice to her mom. Again what the fuck! I told her I had enough. This was about the 10th time she asked for additional money for different items. This time I told her I was done to grab the bus fare and go outside the gate and catch the bus!

Lessons learned;.

1) All these bitches want money!

2) They all have a game plan on how to acquire your money! Even my ex novia in Santiago!

3) If you haven't met them in person. Expect the worst personality.

4) I personally would prefer to spend 1500-2000 for a working girl on Duarte ave, afterwords tell them to leave!

5) If you invite someone from another city, thinking they'll be staying for the night. It might not be a good night!

6) The autobus stop is 20 feet out of Villa Capri's front gate, get lost![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1703123]Most would say it is a bad move committing 5 days to a chick that you do not know. They would probably also rail on you for having a chick commit 5 days of her life to you and upon meeting her and her "not making the cut" you diss her, especially with her being a non-pro.[/QUOTE]Technically it will be 4 days, but I do agree with you. However, I put it to her as an option. Told her the days I will be in the hotel, and asked which days she wanted to come spend with me. I also told her there are no expectations. If we are both happy, it's all good, but if either one isn't happy, we can walk away with no problems, no hard feelings.

I'm fairly sure she's into the right things, but then I'm pretty easy. I don't do anal, but I'm a big fan of oral, more giving than receiving. I am not into CIM, COF, COB etc. No real extreme kinks for me. Now if she was a pro, I would have to discuss everything that is offered, but for this, it's simply GFE. My preference, but not everyone's cup of tea.

I wanted a few days to play tourist in SD. This gives me 3 full days with a native guide. Although she lives elsewhere she grew up in SD and her family lives there.

Maybe it will be a mistake, then I will agree I should have listened. Everyone will know in about 3 weeks.

Teebone had a rough time. I hope my experience is better, we shall see.

There is one thing in that report I wanted to point out. He uses the Home HIV test kit because if she does anal, he wants it uncovered. That's like using hand sanitizer before you play Russian Roulette.

The Home HIV test kit is pretty accurate under certain conditions, with a disclaimer. If the person is definitely HIV negative it will only show a false positive in about 1 of 5000 uses. That's pretty good. However, in cases where the person actually is HIV positive, it will show them to be negative in 1 of 12 cases. That's not so good. Now the disclaimer: It takes up to 3 months after a person is infected with HIV before they will test positive, and can take as long as 6 months, even though the person is capable of infecting others. So a positive test result, you can be fairly certain is reliable. However, a negative test result means next to nothing.

In my opinion (admittedly I am not into anal, an ex demanded uncovered anal one night while I had her doggy. I said no, she insisted. I pulled out, got dressed, never been back.), uncovered anal is too risky, especially with someone who claims to enjoy anal, in a country with a high HIV infection rate.

I am planning my next trip and I should have gone to SD. I have two ladies from there that do not want to come to Sosua. One lady used to have a salon there and will not step foot in the place now. I could not get her to even consider Cabereti. I am really curious if she would want money from me. The other is a friend of an old girl friend.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1703407]Teebone had a rough time. I hope my experience is better, we shall see.

There is one thing in that report I wanted to point out. He uses the Home HIV test kit because if she does anal, he wants it uncovered. That's like using hand sanitizer before you play Russian Roulette.

The Home HIV test kit is pretty accurate under certain conditions, with a disclaimer. If the person is definitely HIV negative it will only show a false positive in about 1 of 5000 uses. That's pretty good. However, in cases where the person actually is HIV positive, it will show them to be negative in 1 of 12 cases. That's not so good. Now the disclaimer: It takes up to 3 months after a person is infected with HIV before they will test positive, and can take as long as 6 months, even though the person is capable of infecting others. So a positive test result, you can be fairly certain is reliable. However, a negative test result means next to nothing.

In my opinion (admittedly I am not into anal, an ex demanded uncovered anal one night while I had her doggy. I said no, she insisted. I pulled out, got dressed, never been back.), uncovered anal is too risky, especially with someone who claims to enjoy anal, in a country with a high HIV infection rate.[/QUOTE]I like the analogy to the hand sanitizer and Russian Roulette. I will have to use it someday!

I have read that transmission from female to male during uncovered anal intercourse is much lower than MALE to FEMALE transmission. And, while MALE to FEMALE transmission during anal is pretty high, the difference between uncovered anal and uncovered vaginal FEMALE to MALE transmission is minimal. It gets confusing, but suffice it to say, if she wanted you to do her ass bareback, she was the one taking the big risk, not you.

The data on these rates of transmission were mostly done before antiretroviral therapy was good. There is actually pre exposure prophylaxis one can take prior to sex that has some efficacy (oral Truvada was about 90% effective if you take it every day; this would be worth it if you had a regular who you knew was infected, but then again, you would have to be crazy not to use condoms).

[QUOTE=Forest;1704667]I like the analogy to the hand sanitizer and Russian Roulette. I will have to use it someday!

I have read that transmission from female to male during uncovered anal intercourse is much lower than MALE to FEMALE transmission. And, while MALE to FEMALE transmission during anal is pretty high, the difference between uncovered anal and uncovered vaginal FEMALE to MALE transmission is minimal. It gets confusing, but suffice it to say, if she wanted you to do her ass bareback, she was the one taking the big risk, not you.

The data on these rates of transmission were mostly done before antiretroviral therapy was good. There is actually pre exposure prophylaxis one can take prior to sex that has some efficacy (oral Truvada was about 90% effective if you take it every day; this would be worth it if you had a regular who you knew was infected, but then again, you would have to be crazy not to use condoms).[/QUOTE]I agree with the crazy not to use condoms, and you're correct that with HIV it's easier to give than to receive. Of course that's not the only problem to worry about, there's also hepatitis.

Keep it covered, avoid the skanks and the addicts, and reduce your risks as much as possible.

Camaro's synopsis on Santo Domingo April 2015.

I have recently returned from a 2 day excursion to Santo Domingo from the north coast. Now that I live in the Dominican Republic my objective is to explore as much of the Island as possible and one of the greatest places to experience Dominican culture is in La Capital.

I have attached my notes for your review.

The Dominican Republic is on Small Island but its big country.

My intention this year was to travel to Cuba it is one of the major Latin American countries I have not visited. Although I have travelled extensively throughout the Dominican Republic from the white sandy beaches of Punta Cana to the mountains of Jarabacoa there is so much more to see from Higuey to Semana therefore I will concentrate the rest of this year to exploring the Dominican Republic and possibly travel to Cuba next year.

E-Mongering.

I didn't work the internet hard this trip but I had a Facebook and Dominican Cupid contact that were going to be the focus of my trip. The Facebook chica flaked on me but I made a good connection with the Dominican Cupid chica.

The largest concentration of women on the Dominican dating web sites are from Santo Domingo therefore there is much hunting a hunter can do.

Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel –El Conde why Esquina Calle Espaillat.

This is a 2 star hotel at best its location is obscure but can be found at the corner of El Conde and Calle Espaillat. You go through a wood door and walk up 2 flights of steps and have to be buzzed in by the receptionist. I hope you speak Spanish because she speaks no English.

The room is old and worn with only 1 towel despite the fact I booked for 2. The walls were stained and the bed felt like I was sitting on a board and springs. There was a safe with key and the cable worked well but the little 18 inch flat screen TV could hardly be seen.

There were only (2) 3 prong electrical outlets I could use for my laptop that were next to the refrigerator. The WIFI was intermittent.

The highlight of the room is the balcony that gives you a view of El Conde.

Dominican efficiency.

I arrived at Carribe Tours in Santo Domingo and took a taxi to the hotel. The taxi driver didn't know exactly where it was. The taxi supervisor quoted me 250 pesos but when I arrived at El Conde the taxista asked for 200 pesos. The entrance to the hotel is obscured so I couldn't find it. I walked to the corner and asked the CESTUR officer where it was and he did not know. Really the tourist police doesn't know where a tourist hotel is REALLY?

He flagged a taxista down at the corner and the taxista said he knew where it was. I asked "cuanto es?" he said "250 pesos" I walked away from him and in 2 minutes I found the hotel which was right behing where the first taxista dropped me off.

Dama Imperial Restaurant.

The Dama Imperial Restaurant is downstairs from the Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. You can sit inside or outside on Calle El Conde. The music was contemporary rock and the breeze on El Conde was very comfortable. It was late in the evening when I ate so some of my menu selections were unavailable. I had my favorite mero a la plancha with a nice garlic sauce. It was light and not filling but tasty.

My waitress wasn't the nicest person in the world but over all I would return since the food was and the location were decent.

Cosmo Centro El Calle El Conde.

I was supposed to have a date later on in the evening so I decided to get a haircut and a shave. I walked by Cosmo Centro on El Conde a few steps from Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel. I asked for a cut and a shave I asked "cuanto es?" he responds "500 pesos" I respond "no yo pago 300 pesos en Puerto Plata" (I pay $20.00 in the States for a haircut and shave) he frowns with an ugly face and says "tah bien".

I get the cut and shave then he starts putting some stuff on my face and massaging my face I must admit it was feeling good but while the treatment was on my face I saw him writing something down so I asked "va cobrame por este?" "then he says "tu cara es sucio" and I said "pero solo pido por un cotar why avieatarse!" then he says "tanquillo" and puts a mask on me.

After about 5 minutes with this mask on I know this is not going to end well. I said "oye tengo un cita!" he hurries and cleans me up. Then he presents me a bill for 1500 pesos. I said "no pido por este!" "si va dar mas servico tu nesista preguntar el cliente" he goes on in Spanish "blah blah blah!

I said "llamar la polica!" Then a lady comes over I guess she is the boss and says I have to pay! I raised my voice again and said "llamar la policía!" The she looks and me and said "no necisita la policia page lo que quieres" I gave her 400 pesos and walked out.

* The funny thing about this episode is my face feels and looks better.

Anyways if you're on Calle Conde in Santo Domingo beware of the up sell.

Rumba Bar & Café Calle 27 Febero.

Guess who whatsapp's me when I am with Ms San Cristobal? Yes it's Santo Domingo Chica#1. So I told her give me a couple of hours since I knew I was on the long game with MSC and I wouldn't be smashing. Again she gives me another lame excuse so it's time to hang with the fellas.

Rumba Bar & Café is a nice spot although it's pretty small inside. There is a stage for live entertainment, my understanding Omega was there recently. There is a bar and DJ booth where the DJ plays American and Latin music. I understand there is a kitchen however I did not eat anything so I cannot speak to the menu. The walls were covered with mirrors and flat screen TVs.

There are waitresses and hostesses. Their job is to hustle drinks and it's a pretty good business model. I was a drinker I would have spent a little more money than buying a container of fruit punch. If a hostess sits with you you are supposed to buy her drinks and give her a propina at the end of your time together. I believe they get commissions off the drinks but I do not know how much. The chicas are not straight PFP and there is no salida however my understanding is they are available after work or another time for those clients they want to spend time with.

I enjoyed the spot. There was no pressure just a laid back atmosphere with some eye candy. It was no hooters but close. Some of the women wore shorts and t-shirts and some wore regular street clothes. There was about 2 8's in a group of a dozen but my understanding it was a slow night.

Over all it was a nice spot especially for someone who likes to drink however your tab can add up quite quickly as the chicas are encouraging you to drink.

Oasis Bar on Calle Dr Baez down the street from the Presidential Palace (5 minutes from Calle El Conde).

If you don't know where this place is you will never find it. It's in a non-descript building with no signage. You walk down 2 flights of steps and walk into a club with a dance floor a bar stripper pole and several couches around the walls.

This is a casa de cita with a few rooms but I am not sure how many. The ladies come out and surround you just like Crystals in Puerto Plata and the talent is just as good if not better. All the women I saw we 7's quite a few 8's. I mean some real model looking chicas and of course there was some plastic in the house.

The prices quoted were all over the place and I got the impression at one point the chicas were freelancers. I got 4 k take out for 2 hours. 5 K in house with a room for 2 hours but one chica said 1 leche unless there was a propina. Then one said 8 k for TLN outside in your hotel with 2 leches. The price structure made no sense.

I talked to the hefe and he stayed between 3 k and 3. 5 k for 2 hours with the chica. I didn't care too much for the spot or the vacillating prices but the women were absolutely gorgeous! If you do your business there are taxis waiting outside and the spot is about 5 minutes from Calle El Conde but I have no idea where it Is exactly.

Closing thoughts Santo Domingo.

The purpose of my trip was to break my monotony of Sosua and try something different. I do not particularly care for large cities since I have lived in them for most of my life I would like something different in retirement. I have been to Santo Domingo before and I did not care for it because of a feeling of being out of place when I am there. If I had a choice I would choose Santiago over Santo Domingo not just because it is closer to the north coast but I feel more comfortable there.

Despite my disinterest Santo Domingo is rich in opportunities for diversity therefore I can see making multiple trips to experience what it has to offer. Below I have listed some of my observations of Santo Domingo:

•Taxistas see you as their next meal and they will try to take advantage of you. Always be clear about what you want where you want to go and how much it is going to cost. If you have a trusted driver or drivers that is even better.

•Calle El Conde is a great place to eat, window shop and overall take in the sites but it is a tourist trap and there are plenty of people who are waiting to upsell you and try to take advantage of the unsuspecting tourist. As always if you engage in any services negotiate the service and the price up front.

•Since Santo Domingo has the greatest populous of people it has the greatest concentration of women all shapes colors and sizes therefore it is worthy of my attention.

There are plenty of PFP options in Santo Domingo and I sampled a couple but one of my objectives for this excursion was to investigate some civilian non pro opportunities. I find civilian non pros much more work than straight PFP but more emotionally rewarding. One of my civilian prospects flaked on me however the other came through and I had a great time with her therefore I am looking forward to seeing her in the future.

I look forward to returning to Santo Domingo to see what else it has to offer.

I always enjoy your reports and it has been a while. I like SD but I always invite chicas to meet me there. The casaa are priced all over the place but the better places are expensive. Two or three times the price you pay in Sosua for same quality. El Conde is a tourist trap but some times you have to be what you are. I enjoy walking the street there and I have met some decent SWs there. Riena Isabella is not the most luxorius place in the world but for $35 a night it met my requirements very well. You can pay twice that amount for the same quality on El Conde. Every room is different.

I have written about the barber shop scam. They do it so often that they are surprised when they are pulled up. I have had one guy locked up by the tourista police and the other I walked out on. SD has some of the nicest malls I have ever seen. If you have chica to walk around with you, will enjoy the sites immensely. Once you learn the ropes a bit SD is big fun. I have some Dominican male friends who I can go clubbing with. This is a different experience.

For the first time I got a great price for a flight to Puerto Plata $511 RT. AS life would be I have three hot babes waiting in SD and two will not go to Sosua. The trifecta non pro, semi pro and a pro. I am debating catching the bus to SD for 2 days but not sure. If you take your time you can find what ever you want in Sosua.

Don't use them is my advice.

I can recommend two barber shops very near the Conde where a haircut costs 300 pesos including tip, or 400 pesos including a very generous tip. No scams, no hassles. One is on the corner of calle Santome and calle Mercedes, the other is on calle Mercedes just next to number 364 calle Mercedes, also known as "Bar 364", which operates as a massage parlor from time to time. Both barber shops are only one street north of the Conde.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1705354]I always enjoy your reports and it has been a while. I like SD but I always invite chicas to meet me there. The casaa are priced all over the place but the better places are expensive. Two or three times the price you pay in Sosua for same quality. El Conde is a tourist trap but some times you have to be what you are. I enjoy walking the street there and I have met some decent SWs there. Riena Isabella is not the most luxorius place in the world but for $35 a night it met my requirements very well. You can pay twice that amount for the same quality on El Conde. Every room is different.

I have written about the barber shop scam. They do it so often that they are surprised when they are pulled up. I have had one guy locked up by the tourista police and the other I walked out on. SD has some of the nicest malls I have ever seen. If you have chica to walk around with you, will enjoy the sites immensely. Once you learn the ropes a bit SD is big fun. I have some Dominican male friends who I can go clubbing with. This is a different experience.

For the first time I got a great price for a flight to Puerto Plata $511 RT. AS life would be I have three hot babes waiting in SD and two will not go to Sosua. The trifecta non pro, semi pro and a pro. I am debating catching the bus to SD for 2 days but not sure. If you take your time you can find what ever you want in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1705300]Camaro's synopsis on Santo Domingo April 2015.



I look forward to returning to Santo Domingo to see what else it has to offer.[/QUOTE]Every Sunday by 7:00 pm there is outdoor live music on Ruinas de San Francisco de Asis area. It is a couple of blocks away from La Atarazana area. I knew of this place from a lady I spent a full week with her, a very pretty and intelligent 23 yr Santiago girl. The area is closed to traffic. They put a couple of hundred plastic chairs for people to enjoy the show. The show lasts 3 hours. It is a nice area of colonial zone.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1706277]Every Sunday by 7:00 pm there is outdoor live music on Ruinas de San Francisco de Asis area.[/QUOTE]It is great, but can be hell when you drove and it's time to leave.