Makati

Spam Hog,

Many thanks for you wise comments and questions. I assure you that I am far from a green horn in the Filipina scams area. I looked up in the Yellow pages on line the names of the 2 doctors my girls said she was going to. After her appointment there I called the 2 doctors on the phone from their number in the Yellow pages and confirmed the findings my girl told me. This is a sure as you can get unless you fly there yourself.

You are so right that there are many ways to abort in the PI's as I have now found out.

Many thanks for your input and your advice.

Best regards.

Interesting techinique with squeezing the contents of a rubber into her penny box, I wonder how effective that is as far as inducing a preganacy? To my knowledge a sperm cell has little life expectancy unless in a host but a Doctor could tell us the score on that. But disposing of the things properly seems to be wise precaution.

Anyhow I just want you all to be aware that PATERNITY TESTING IS available in the Phils. Some isolated area like Leyte/Samar might farm it out to Manila but it can be had.

regarding this scam it is an OOOOOOllllllddddd one in Thailand. The yings have it down to a science, they will even show you your "child", borrowed or rented
from a sympathetic friend or someone in on the scam. I knew a ying in Phuket with a light haired half French little girl who used to make quite a good income from that very scam.

Blastoff you may have checked with doctors but they may also be in on it, remember the extended family clan, everybody shares the bounty. And in some of these areas if a foreigner is involved everybody smells money.

The only way to be sure of anything is to go there yourself and find out, tough but thats the lay of it.

Regards

Spamhog

[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
Anyhow I just want you all to be aware that PATERNITY TESTING IS available in the Phils. Some isolated area like Leyte/Samar might farm it out to Manila but it can be had.

Regards

Spamhog[/QUOTE]

I called a company in the USA. Had them send me the DNA testing kit via FEDEX. Picked up the testing package at a FEDEX office. Followed the directions on the package, just have to properly use a swab and swab the inner check inside the mouth to get tissue sample of the Baby, Mother and Yourself. Packaged up the tissue samples per instructions, took package back to FEDEX and sent back to USA and had results emailed to me within one week.
Now this is not valid in court. A doctor has to be involved to be considered a blind test I guess, but for personal accountability it worked for me. If you are trying to prove or disprove paternal relationship for legal or citizenship reasons then you cannot perform the test.

It was very easy. I just did not trust any service in the PI for the reasons mentioned by SH. There is no limit to the types or professions of people who think the taking of money from foreigners is OK. They should go ahead and pass a law stating that it isn't a crime, because the whole country thinks it is OK to rob a perceived rich foreigner.

FF

Generally live in Malaysia but used to live in Makati. Have a string of freebies that I often meet but during last trip there thought I would try out a new (but well used) technique.

Was strolling thru Market Market when I spotted a very cute one in a store. She looked at me and I looked at her. Enough said. She seemed to be quite busy, so went to National Bookstore, bought pen and paper. Wrote her a sweet note, with my name and phone number on it.

Sure enough one hour letter. Get sms. She would be happy to meet.

I was busy that night having a Burgos Street special. But we met the next day when she finished work. Had some drinks in Market Market area. Then drove in my car. She wasnt too keen on going to motel on first date. But she had no probs with lots of finger roaming and she managed to jerk me off nicely. And promised me heaven on my next date when I return.

Interesting twist. As soon as I got back to KL she sent me sms. Normal story. Had money probs parents house falling down. Pregnant carabou etc. Could I send. My reply. Sure. Next time were in a motel, will help your parents. But not till then. Either way it was first time I had used that technique and will be repeating it.

Good story, I can relate to it.

Chhers.

Went to Greenbelt 3 last night and had dinner at Havana Cafe. This is definitely a place to go for the latin music and to look at the tall and beautiful waitresses, not a place to go to for the food or the service, which were substandard in my opinion. Everything took forever, the wine I ordered with dinner arrived after I finished eating.

There were some very beautiful girls walking around the mall but I found it hard to approach them without knowing for sure they were working. The ones that obviously were working at Havana were not so good looking and did not appear to look at me or anything. Obviously you have to make the first move.

My move was to go to Flamingo, the first bar on P. Burgos. It was the first time and I was impressed. Within minutes I had a couple girls at my table, within an hour, I had five and was in the middle of a clothed orgy with everyone having their hands over everyone else. I took one girl out at 4AM, mamasan told me the minimum for her was 2500 P for short time, I said OK, bar fine was 1900P. Total damage with the drinks for the girls was 5100 + 1900 bar fine but absolutely worth it considering the great time I had.

Since I could not take all the girls with me last night, I setup a meeting with one of them at my hotel this afternoon before work, and will go back tonight to pickup another one. There were some really good looking girls there, some on stage looked very young, I thought they might not be great performers but they looked good. The girl I picked, Ruffa, had a nice personality and nice body though I realized after the fact she was shorter than I wanted (at the bar I was sitting and she had high heels on of course) and once in bed I discovered (and she pretended to discover too) that she had her period, which was a BAD surprise. She did not stay very long after that. We'll see how the next girl goes this afternoon... For now I am going to lunch at LA Cafe, so who knows...

By the way, does anyone have suggestions as to where to girls can be picked up in the daytime? Thanks.

After reading previous reports, I decided to start the night at Café Havana.
Situated at Greenbalt 3, it's 5-10 minutes from the major hotels of Makati.

I landed there around 11pm and the place was packed, the live band was giving its best on latino songs, the mbiance was ver friendly.

I spotted 3 very stylish ladies 8-9 at the bar close to the band. I did not attack immediately after 1 glass of my favorite JD Coke.

One of them Kathleen was regularly crossing my eyes with a little smile.

I could see couple of guys coming to the ladies and being rejected because probably too direct.

After 20 minutes, Kathleen was dancing between my arms so sensualy that I made my mind.

I had a lot of fun drinking and dancing with her friends.

Then I suggested we have a dring in my room. I was expected 2 of them could come but only Kathleen was keen.

She did not talk about money at all.

We had great fun in the room too till 4am when we decided to go to Casino.

Before going out from the room, I just gave her 2K Pesos. She just said thanks without a nice smile telling me I probably put the bar too high.

Anyway, that's was cheap, great, safe and so funny.

I recommend Cafe Havana.

Popos

Had lunch at LA Cafe where I was approached by some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen, they did eventually leave with customers, I don't know, some blind guys probably... The food was really not good either, chicken was still frozen, I ate a little and left.

Went to 5 or so bars on P. Burgos in Makati at night (Saturday). Started early as recommended and was surprised to see the clubs almost full already. Flamingo and Jools had the best selection imho. I returned to Flamingo at 8PM with the intention of barfining a girl I had seen the night before but she kept presenting me her friends and I gathered she was no longer interested, possibly because she knew I did 2 of her friends in the previous 12 hours. Flamingo has GROs (Guest Relations Officers mind you) and dancers. Both types can be barfined but GROs don't dance.

The girls at Bandidos did not look good at all and I did not stay. The girls at High Heels looked generally better but had a very agressive style with all the girls surrounding me the minute I entered and running my hands on their bodies asking me to choose them. Not a bad feeling but I became overwhelmed and continued my quest for the perfect 1-nighter. Wow offered personalized, 2 on 1 intimity, we chatted and I crossed the road to Jools. They had a (good) show on and after 5 minutes I was surrounded by about 8 girls. I picked the two I liked most and bought them a drink, we chatted and touched for a couple hours but I could not decide either and went to EDSA around 2:30AM. Damage at Bandidos, HH & Flamingo was about 150P per drink. Jools was considerably more expensive due to the fact that they kept insisting on selling very small drinks for the girls and I ended up paying above 5000P there. I was half drunk and not paying attention, my mistake.

EDSA: Started at Cotton Club, the place was almost empty by then did not like it, drinks were 120P, continued to Firehouse where the mamasan introduced a cutie, who I ended up with (after checking out Casino upstairs which was completely empty before closing at 3:45AM). Barfine was 1000P and she provided the GFE I had been longing for, and could not find in Makati. We went out for dinner at 5AM and still managed a couple sessions before she left around noon the next day, very nice girl really, I have her real name but don't remember her stage name. I gave her about 3200 P, she seemed content.

Walking out of EDSA at 4AM I did see some cuties just hanging around, it was too late to reconsider by then, anyway, I have no regrets.

BTW, walking into Robinson Plaza in the afternoon I was followed and approached by what might have been a transvetite, a tall "girl" with masculine features who absolutely insisted she would give me a massage, this was in the middle of the crowd mid-day, I had trouble getting rid of her. I kept my hands in my pockets as I was afraid this could be a pickpocketing scam. Still not sure what that was all about...

Concerning Popo's report, my impression from the way the girls were looking at the men at Cafe Havana, is that all them were pro or semi-pro, I am wondering if there are really non-pros that can be picked up there. I could be wrong, have only been there 3 times.

Correct on nearly all counts, FF. For courtroom legitimacy it's all about maintaining 'chain of custody' as the DNA samples are classified as evidence.

I went through this with a Dominican sweety. Could have done the FedEx to me, take the samples myself and send 'em back thing. I opted for the medical office test as I was planning on adopting and bringing the child to the USA if positive.

The USA based DNA testing facility I used contracts with a hospital in Santiago. We three, mother, baby and myself, took the gua gua (bus) to get the samples taken; they are immediately packed and sealed right in front of everyone.

As you state, it took one week for the results. They showed I was NOT a daddy (wheeeeewww!!! Darn broken condom anyway).

Now according to the mother, it seems some guy in Boston took the plunge repeatedly 'bare' before I got to the DR and he may be the father. Not much I can do about that. BTW, if 'the' guy from Boston reads this, the mother of your perspective child says you only pay half what's agreed upon and you don't pull out when you say you will. Ha! What a life.

Mr. P.

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]I called a company in the USA. Had them send me the DNA testing kit via FEDEX. Picked up the testing package at a FEDEX office. Followed the directions on the package, just have to properly use a swab and swab the inner check inside the mouth to get tissue sample of the Baby, Mother and Yourself. Packaged up the tissue samples per instructions, took package back to FEDEX and sent back to USA and had results emailed to me within one week.
Now this is not valid in court. A doctor has to be involved to be considered a blind test I guess, but for personal accountability it worked for me. If you are trying to prove or disprove paternal relationship for legal or citizenship reasons then you cannot perform the test.

It was very easy. I just did not trust any service in the PI for the reasons mentioned by SH. There is no limit to the types or professions of people who think the taking of money from foreigners is OK. They should go ahead and pass a law stating that it isn't a crime, because the whole country thinks it is OK to rob a perceived rich foreigner.

FF[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mahal]Had lunch at LA Cafe where I was approached by some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen, they did eventually leave with customers, I don't know, some blind guys probably. The food was really not good either, chicken was still frozen, I ate a little and left.

I would never eat at the LA Cafe. But Amazonia up the street has good food. I understand the owner's wife is Thai.

Alabang area has come up very much with lots of people living there and many companies coming up in this area. I travel about once a year and only get to stay in this area for a few days. Can anyone tell me if there is any kind of action in this area.

Hi mahal,

Was in Manila about the same time as you it appears.

Daytime options seem limited, but I'm no expert. I usually went to Phoenix in the Makati area, but this is a massage parlor only. The girls were receptive to seeing me after the shift which was 12 to 8pm. The quality was quite good at this place and the facilities were decent and clean. Highly recommended and very convenient location.

I went to flamingo as well. At first I was impressed with the selection. I started trialing girls but found the up close appearance a bit different from how they looked on stage. I ended up buying four drinks for four different girls. Three of the girls were 18 and had some sort of dental orthodontia. Braces, retainer etc. The thought of braces shredding my dick was not a good one. These girls seemed very uninterested as well. Overall I liked the lack of pushiness of this place. People would leave you alone if you wanted, but the girls seemed pretty lacking in personality. Other clubs were much more pushy but the girls more talkative. The fourth one I picked for the body, which was very thin. She looked much better in the darkness of the club, unfortunately. Brought her back and had the worst experience I've ever had. Will not elaborate but sent her away quickly. Thought of calling the club to complain, but by then was tired and not up to going out again to find something else. This makes two bad experiences from burgos for me. Will take awhile for me to try again. Maybe I should have gone for one of the young ones with braces.

Can someone explain the purpose for buying these??

I have often wondered why men buy these drinks for the ladies? The fact that you can go to a bar, knowing they have overpriced them at 3-4x's the price, the SAME drink you are drinking but you guys still continue to buy them. Furthermore, the so-called LD's are not even alcoholic so what you are literally buying is juice/koolaid or whatever it is but it isn't alcohol!

I was in the P. Burgos area a few weeks ago and met a fairly drunk caucasion girl and her half filipina/japanese gf (think they were lesbos) and struck up a conversation. She was in town for vacation (was in the military) and just enjoying herself. Now I'm sure you guys have seen a few caucasion women here in the philippines but not many alone and so I decided to just spark up a conversation just to see what she was doing in the PI.

Our walk and interests took us to the Bronx on P. Burgos. This is more of a dance club/bar but not the typical dancers on the stage doing the "routine" type dance. Even though the girls did dance it was more of like an open dance floor with them playing hip-hop and rock music. Almost all the dancers there are beautiful and gorgeous (9-10s) but if you ask me if they can dance....well, hmmm!!!

Anyway, my new friend ordered the 1st round of drinks and the girl had obviously been there a few times as the manager or the girl who is in charge of monitoring the drink buying came over and greeted us. My new friend bought 3 SML's and 2 LD's for one of the girls that came over and sat down. Now I'm not sure what drink it was but I leaned over and asked her if she knew what she was buying? I did it bcuz I hate to see semi-drunk people being taken advantage of and she was well on her way to ordering a second round.

She said "yeah, its just a LD". I said, "taste it"! You're probably thinking its got alcohol in it?? She said, "of course!" After tasting it, she woke up like a deer in headlights and immediately got pissed off bcuz the it was nothing but fruit punch! I told her that you know that drink is probably around 350P each and she said yeah. She asked for the bill and the lady presented her with a bill of 980P!! She called over the manager and told her she wasn't paying for those drinks as she thought they were alcoholic drinks. The manager told her they were and the argument was on!

Long story shortened, she didn't pay for the drinks and the manager looked at me like I just blew the greatest secret in the world....lol! If you guys don't know, quit buying these drinks, they aren't alcohol and what the hell is the purpose for buying those drinks anyway??? I just don't understand why pay for a drink for a lady at 3-4x the rate?

Maybe some of you can explain the reasoning behind this. Just curious how many of you really buy those drinks and why? As long as I've been mongering I never had to buy or even considered buying a lady a drink and still get as much pussy or more! So it can't be to get the pussy....is it?

I am having a third good day in Manila. As I have said earleir, I prefer using call agencies to send girls upto my room. Last time I tried Gypsy Rose and I obtained the number from yellow pages. There is only one genuine massage service provider in that entire chapter. All the rest are escort agencies. I find Gypsy ROse reliable. There is a guy by the name of Anthony who answers the phone. DOnt be bashful. Exlain your specs and he will sincerely try to help you out. If he cant he is decent and honest enough to tell you the best he can do. Usually the girls are 6 or 7 in looks and body, wth an occassional 8 or 9. Usually they all provide good service, with unlimited options, if you are nice to them.

I tried another agency called Girlfriends this time and I was little put off by the stand-offish women who answered the phone. The girl was ok. She was fresh ( Amy), but did not provide as compliant a service as the rest of Philipinas do. I think I will stick with Gypsy Rose.

As far as massages are concerned, I tried the one agency listed in the yellow pages with a term therapy. They did send a reasonably good massueess, who was professional, but even she asked if i wanted hand releif. So theres plenty cums in Manila!

[QUOTE=Trim Keeper] [ladies drinks]Can someone explain the purpose for buying these??

Trim-[/QUOTE]

So, you have been traveling the Philippines for at least two years, including Angeles City (judging from your previous posts), and you have not been able to figure out ladies drinks. Most people figure them out after the first bar or two, and I have never met anyone who didn't understand them after a night of bar hopping. Honestly, if you haven't figured them out by now, you probably never will. But don't feel so bad. There are many things I have not been able to figure out about the Philippines. Like why are there so many Macdonalds/jollibees/KFC/etc, most of them packed with customers, selling $2 meals when most Filipinos who are lucky enough to have a job earn less then $200 a month? Or why does the guy behind you honk when you are stopped at a red light? I am sure he knows why he is honking at me, but I have no fucking idea.