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[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2687490]I tried out pyeongtaek rld during the day thinking I'd get different results than night time as a gyopo. Well, apparently the daytime girls aren't that desperate either. I drove around stopping at each girl waving money. They either didn't look at me all, looked through me, or shook their head no. I'm not sure what's going on. I saw a previous post in the thread that said just keep trying and one of them will eventually except foreigner. I've done night twice and day once and no luck. Circled several times and even did foot patrol the first time.

Anyways, after striking out on my third attempt, I fled to the Shopping district proper across the way. I circled for almost 30 minutes trying to find the places with massage signs. I finally settled on trying one with king in the name. I thought hey! Maybe I'll be treated like a king. I will say, I contemplated two other places before making my decision. One I believe was a Chinese shop and there was a woman outside on the phone at the entrance to the stairs that was enough to make me think maybe I wouldn't have the best time at this shop. So then it was down to two. I decide to be a king, so I go up. Front reception was on the phone and addressed me after about 2 minutes. I finally get brought to the back. I get luck of the draw I guess. Not a stunner by any means, but a pretty good draw for a place like this. I'm thinking mid 30's and local. I tell her with translator I don't really need the body work done, just the service. She giggles and pulls her translator app out too. Quotes me 15, I say 12 she doesn't budge. So I walk over to retrieve the tip. She walks over and pulls out my guy and her eyes get really big and her mouth opens wide. I'm thinking this is either good or bad. She tells me I'm too big and starts exaggerating the size. Holding her hands 12 inches apart and pointing to her higher stomach. I'm not that well endowed, just above average and wide. She then makes a hold with her fingers about the size of my big toe and points to her little girl. She grabs the translator again and tells me I'm too big for her and all the other girls in the shop, except one.[/QUOTE]I always tell them my Cock is the same size and length as a Korean man so they don't worry.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2687623]Thanks for the detailed report. I haven't been to Pyeongtaek, but I've had some of these same experiences at RLDs in Seoul and Suwon. There's nothing worse than a stiff legged provider complaining about being fucked even though she agreed to a dicking.

In these situations, with ugly providers, bad attitudes, and poor service I've learned to just say no and walk away rather than settle for below average. It's not always easy when horny, but it's the right decision.

Unfortunately, a lot of businesses don't look at foreigners as repeat customers. Therefore, they're in the habit of offering terrible experiences.

On a side note, if the RLD in Pyeongtaek is really that hesitant to accept a foreigner, it may be due to American military intervention. On occasion, the US army works with local Korean government to stop privates from visiting the brothels. Enforcement may have gotten stronger because of the continued spread of covid. I don't have any definitive proof of this, but based on your description of every single woman turning you down, it's possible that the women in Pyeongtaek were told not to take foreigners. If this is the case, things will eventually blow over.[/QUOTE]How were your experiences in Seoul RLDs? I plan on trying all of them, I heard Suwon shut down its RLD SAD!

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2687490]I tried out pyeongtaek rld during the day thinking I'd get different results than night time as a gyopo. Well, apparently the daytime girls aren't that desperate either. I drove around stopping at each girl waving money. They either didn't look at me all, looked through me, or shook their head no. I'm not sure what's going on. I saw a previous post in the thread that said just keep trying and one of them will eventually except foreigner. I've done night twice and day once and no luck. Circled several times and even did foot patrol the first time.

Anyways, after striking out on my third attempt, I fled to the Shopping district proper across the way. I circled for almost 30 minutes trying to find the places with massage signs. I finally settled on trying one with king in the name. I thought hey! Maybe I'll be treated like a king. I will say, I contemplated two other places before making my decision. One I believe was a Chinese shop and there was a woman outside on the phone at the entrance to the stairs that was enough to make me think maybe I wouldn't have the best time at this shop. So then it was down to two. I decide to be a king, so I go up. Front reception was on the phone and addressed me after about 2 minutes. I finally get brought to the back. I get luck of the draw I guess. Not a stunner by any means, but a pretty good draw for a place like this. I'm thinking mid 30's and local. I tell her with translator I don't really need the body work done, just the service. She giggles and pulls her translator app out too. Quotes me 15, I say 12 she doesn't budge. So I walk over to retrieve the tip. She walks over and pulls out my guy and her eyes get really big and her mouth opens wide. I'm thinking this is either good or bad. She tells me I'm too big and starts exaggerating the size. Holding her hands 12 inches apart and pointing to her higher stomach. I'm not that well endowed, just above average and wide. She then makes a hold with her fingers about the size of my big toe and points to her little girl. She grabs the translator again and tells me I'm too big for her and all the other girls in the shop, except one.[/QUOTE]Follow up, I tried home massage again. Chose a lady that comes as advertised. She quoted me 20 just like the other girl, though, no room for negotiation with this one. I tried for about 4 minutes, she wouldn't even budge 2. Guess she knows her worth. She was 44 kg, and maybe 162 cm? Easily able to pick her up and toss her around in many positions. She was attentive and moaned the entire time, was flexible with positions, etc. Face 8.5. I'll likely choose her again. The damage was high due to tip and entrance fee being 5. Best experience thus far in pyeongtaek. Only downside is due to her petite body, my breasts are larger. But she still had nice little butt cheeks to squeeze in k9. Like I said though, best experience so far. If you can afford it, its worth it. Only thing that would make it better is multiple shots. Though, I lasted about 40 minutes and she sort of implied it was too long for her.

PYT RLD is strange. I have gone through day and night and different days of week. The girls have patterns usually but Sunday seems to be main day off for most. Mornings are better than evening and weekday better than weekend. One girl really caught my eye so I tried many times and offered different things like flowers and gifts. It eventually paid off and she has become a regular. PYT is not foreigner friendly. Sometimes I would ask a girl who was less attractive to see if better luck, but still no, which really stinks. There is an older girl (35), who is basically a twin of girl that works opposite shift in the same window. Both accepted foreigners. It is back row closer to train track and furthest from Station.

Dongducheon is also by a military base but is the most foreigner friendly. Less selection but most girls seemed open to anyone.

[QUOTE=PattySmitty88;2688248]Follow up, I tried home massage again. Chose a lady that comes as advertised. She quoted me 20 just like the other girl, though, no room for negotiation with this one. I tried for about 4 minutes, she wouldn't even budge 2. Guess she knows her worth. She was 44 kg, and maybe 162 cm? Easily able to pick her up and toss her around in many positions. She was attentive and moaned the entire time, was flexible with positions, etc. Face 8.5. I'll likely choose her again. The damage was high due to tip and entrance fee being 5. Best experience thus far in pyeongtaek. Only downside is due to her petite body, my breasts are larger. But she still had nice little butt cheeks to squeeze in k9. Like I said though, best experience so far. If you can afford it, its worth it. Only thing that would make it better is multiple shots. Though, I lasted about 40 minutes and she sort of implied it was too long for her.[/QUOTE]What is home massage? She sounds just like the kind of girl I would be interested in.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2688036]How were your experiences in Seoul RLDs? I plan on trying all of them, I heard Suwon shut down its RLD SAD![/QUOTE]I've written about my experiences in previous posts, but I'll briefly recap here. RLDs are in decline and I don't use them anymore.

Among the RLDs which are still open, Miari is / was my favorite. It used to have the lowest prices, the best chance of being able to bargain, and the highest chance of CIP on the menu.

Even then, it was only worth visiting because I was prepared to walk away unsatisfied. I would say that in the past, I walked away about 50% of the time. There were just too many days when the quality of available women was too low for my tastes. It's not just that they were unattractive, it's also that they didn't have the best attitudes. Even when I spotted a pretty woman, if she didn't smile, I walked out because I knew the service would be terrible. This was uncomfortable because the older ladies that open the doors didn't want to lose a customer and thus they often got pushy, clung onto my arm, and made all kinds of false promises about the quality of service on offer.

The harder they pushed, the more I knew it would be a dreadful experience. After all, a hard sell isn't necessary when the goods speak for themselves.

Now, I haven't been to Miari in well over 6 months, but my best guess is that it hasn't changed much.

[QUOTE=PattySmitty88;2687490]I tried out pyeongtaek rld during the day thinking I'd get different results than night time as a gyopo. Well, apparently the daytime girls aren't that desperate either. I drove around stopping at each girl waving money. They either didn't look at me all, looked through me, or shook their head no. I'm not sure what's going on. I saw a previous post in the thread that said just keep trying and one of them will eventually except foreigner. I've done night twice and day once and no luck. Circled several times and even did foot patrol the first time. [/QUOTE]Not sure why you are "striking out" as a kyopo at Pyeongtaek. Yes, they are not foreigner friendly but as a kyopo myself with middling Korean language skills I've gotten access. How good is your Korean? Do you have an obvious accent? Are you one of those Koreans that don't "look Korean"? I've met 100% pure blooded Koreans that looked SE Asian, for example. Also, you mentioned "waving cash" while driving by in your car. The key is to have a reserved manner. Get out of your car and approach a girl nonchalantly and ask "How much for 30 minutes?" (Or whatever time you want).

That said, this past trip to Korea I've had a 2 out of 3 success rate at Pyeongtaek. One girl I had first seen a couple years ago so I was a trusted regular. I tried a new girl and got as far as into the room when she asked me something. I answered and she could tell I had an accent. But then again, this girl seemed really overly cautious about covid, taking my temperature with a thermal sensor. The third girl was one that worked only on weekends during the daytime. She was really friendly to me and didn't mind when I admitted I was a kyopo. She even gave me her real name and Kakao contact.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2688356]There is an older girl (35), who is basically a twin of girl that works opposite shift in the same window. Both accepted foreigners. It is back row closer to train track and furthest from Station.[/QUOTE]Does this girl sit in one of the corner end windows (or very close to the corner) during the daytime? Does she sit at her chair in a bored manner with her slipper dangling off one her feet? I think I've seen her.

This past trip to Korea I became pretty familiar with a girl I visited on a regular basis at Pyeongtaek glass house RLD. Mid 20's, probably one of the better looking ones but not necessarily HOT looking. Works night shift 5 days a week, goes home on weekends. Asked her how much she makes working there. So, the house takes 40% of what the customer pays. The girl says she makes about 10 million KRW a month, which isn't too shabby considering the average young Korean college graduate makes about 30 million KRW a year. I guesstimate she makes about 500,000 KRW a shift, take home (not sure about taxes). Some of these working girls blow their money on Chanel bags and plastic surgery but she doesn't seem the type. I wonder if she ever settles down with a blue collar Korean guy how she explains all the money she has in the bank.

With the Pyeongtaek RLDs, if you're really bent on it it's a real hit or miss, more misses then hits. However, of the few times I've walked thru there, I've had the mamasans call out to me (this was with me on foot). Never partook, as I just wanted to walk thru out of curiosity. But my best bet would be to have the mamasan hook you up, YMMV as always. For reference I've only gone at night, Fri and Sat.

I can't state enough to go back and read maybe the last 15 to 20 pages of this forum. Also check out rockitreports, the articles are good but what you really want to do is read all the comments at the bottom. You'the be surprised what leads and info you find, even directions to a few places. There's also sites like OPstar that are specific for kiss bangs as well. Try Bumble and Tinder, as I've come across outcall places advertising their services there as well after you match. They'll ask for your kakao or Snap right away. If anything, won't hurt to match and hookup with a non P4 P girl in between your haunts. Sometimes I'll try a new location or an old spot a day or so before a date with a non WG, takes the stench of desperation and any simp possibilities off of me LOL. For gyopos I'the suggest dating apps specific to Korea, such as Korean Cupid, eharmony, etc. (I think you guys would have 2 x to 3 x more chances than us short, fat, ugly, and dirty foreigners).

As far as finding a place to do the hobby, go to Susabol, Asan techno valley, or Gunpo / Dunpo. These three locations are guaranteed for foreigners. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been turned down, that number rises with the amount of places that were closed when I walked up or pretending to be "closed" cause they didn't want to deal with a foreigner LOL. But you have a 90% success rate of finding a place that will accommodate you, as always YMMV. One thing is that with some of these places, you may be able to get the girls contact info for extra activities outside of her workplace. From my understanding, this seems to work best with Thai girls based on my experiences and what others have shared on this thread.

But there is a science to this, as they'll either want to be paid or you can take them on proper dates. Others have been able to accomplish this, because if one man can do it then so can another. Remember that when you go to these places, be kind and treat these girls with respect. You'the be surprised how far that takes you and also you don't want to ruin it for the rest of us. One girl I spoke with would tell me about her Korean customers there, as they would usually be rude, were too rough, mean and came in drunk. But then again, she could've just been trying to get pity points from me, either way I didn't pay extra and still got great service.

I'm sure there are more places, as BonJ used a brilliant spamming method. Simply call, Telegram, and Kakao a bunch of places from OPstar and see who responds or lets you in. Read the Seoul forum for his stuff, should help many. If they allow you, remember its in the pretext of "we're giving you a chance, don't f*ck this up" as he so eloquently stated. So don't be an ass. You might be able to become a regular there and get some fav girls. There will always be some girls that are non cooperative or not into you, so just let that slide and move on. Too many options to care about 1 bad experience. Also keep in mind that there may be some places that allow us and may have a few talented managers (its what they call the girls there), but not everyone is willing to share its location (and I don't blame them). As then you'the have every guy on here, and then some, flocking to that location or girl.

Do a google search for "prostit*t**and variants in Korea reddit", it has a long listing with details. TacoYaki also made a good listing of types in the Seoul forum.

I highly recommend playing around Techno Valley area as well. I have never been denied when I am out here. Tomato is not bad, pricy but good service. I have to ask for a lighter massage because they will automatically default to sports massage. Not a fan of that. I played around at Fox in Dunpo and the ladies there are usually well endowed and you get 2 shots for below 200 k. My go to is definitely Cookies. Older sisters but they know how to service their clients. 2 shots as well below 200 k.

For awhile now, Korean karaoke and massage places advertising on Twitter (pic of not real pretty lady), describing their general location and services have been prominently-including an alphanumeric code of varying length as few as 8 characters, often up to 17. Here's an example: 43 LE286 EL871 Z624 H. Anybody break the code?

What is the Korean name for the glass house RLDs? Is there a general term for them?

[QUOTE=KalmunSoul;2695270]I highly recommend playing around Techno Valley area as well. I have never been denied when I am out here. Tomato is not bad, pricy but good service. I have to ask for a lighter massage because they will automatically default to sports massage. Not a fan of that. I played around at Fox in Dunpo and the ladies there are usually well endowed and you get 2 shots for below 200 k. My go to is definitely Cookies. Older sisters but they know how to service their clients. 2 shots as well below 200 k.[/QUOTE]Here exactly is Fox? They didn't respond to my texts.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2701517]Here exactly is Fox? They didn't respond to my texts.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have visited Fox a few times and the best girl has moved to Cheonan.