Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=SubComm;2562070]Exactly right.

Social Security is paid by the employees salary throughout his working career. 7. 5 percent of salary is paid by employee and 7. 5 percent is paid by employer up to around 100 k of salary per yr. The federal government contributes absolutely nothing except the administration of the program which they bankrupted many years ago.[/QUOTE]Correct (both you and latinlover) but with a needed clarification. Correct that most of us have paid in more than we'll ever get back assuming a nominal ROI. But it is a social program for those who have worked only a few years enough to qualify for the minimum monthly distribution. I know a professional gambler who quit working a normal job at 37. He's now 82 and has been collecting the minimum monthly benefit for 20 years. So it has a redistribuiton element built in as do all government social programs. Same for someone who was a very low wage earner their entire career. They would have paid in relatively little but still qualify for the minimum monthly benefit which is now about $900 per month.

[QUOTE=SubComm;2562070]Exactly right.

Social Security is paid by the employees salary throughout his working career. 7. 5 percent of salary is paid by employee and 7. 5 percent is paid by employer up to around 100 k of salary per yr. The federal government contributes absolutely nothing except the administration of the program which they bankrupted many years ago.[/QUOTE]Okay, the OASDI tax rate is 12.4%, 6.2% for employers, 6.2 for workers. Since 1985 I have earned more than the SS tax limit. From 1993 to 2015, when I retired at age 70, I was self employed and paid both halves of the OASDI. Since I postponed retirement until 70, I get ~$3850 (less the incredible $504.90 IRMAA Medicare Part B payment). I had 50 years of SS taxable income, but compare that with the benefit for someone who had 30 years with the minimum income (although the way it currently is nearly everyone receives more than the regulatory minimum). Anyhow, if you look at the cost / benefit for what the minimum worker receives vs what I get, it is obviously socialism.

And that's exclusive of Medicare. Medicare: Now most people pay $148.50/ month for Part B; whereas, as I wrote, I pay $504.90 for exactly the same thing. Both halves of the Medicare tax are 2.9%, which has no AGI limit. For the 22 years I was self employed I received a large, taxable income, which was all subject to MC tax. I'd have to go back and look at it, but I'm guessing that just in those self emplyed years I contributed >>$350 K total just in MC. Okay, I am a Democrat. I can still afford the IRMAA part B payments. I could afford the MC tax on my AGI. I have too much money. I believe we should have a progressive tax system. But to all you who claim that you "earned" your SS and MC, and that they are not socialism, let me say that I am (still) living proof that you are completely delusional (i.e., full of shit). By any definition, SS and MC are socialism.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2562079]Okay, the OASDI tax rate is 12.4%, 6.2% for employers, 6.2 for workers. Since 1985 I have earned more than the SS tax limit. From 1993 to 2015, when I retired at age 70, I was self employed and paid both halves of the OASDI. Since I postponed retirement until 70, I get ~$3850 (less the incredible $504.90 IRMAA Medicare Part B payment). I had 50 years of SS taxable income, but compare that with the benefit for someone who had 30 years with the minimum income (although the way it currently is nearly everyone receives more than the regulatory minimum). Anyhow, if you look at the cost / benefit for what the minimum worker receives vs what I get, it is obviously socialism.

And that's exclusive of Medicare. Medicare: Now most people pay $148.50/ month for Part B; whereas, as I wrote, I pay $504.90 for exactly the same thing. Both halves of the Medicare tax are 2.9%, which has no AGI limit. For the 22 years I was self employed I received a large, taxable income, which was all subject to MC tax. I'd have to go back and look at it, but I'm guessing that just in those self emplyed years I contributed >>$350 K total just in MC. Okay, I am a Democrat. I can still afford the IRMAA part B payments. I could afford the MC tax on my AGI. I have too much money. I believe we should have a progressive tax system. But to all you who claim that you "earned" your SS and MC, and that they are not socialism, let me say that I am (still) living proof that you are completely delusional (i.e., full of shit). By any definition, SS and MC are socialism.[/QUOTE]Give it a rest and who gives a shit anyway. Some people think they have all the answers, come on people this is a forum to talk about pussy and not politics and debating about none pussy related things hehehe, OK maybe a little talk but there is a section for non-pussy related BS.

Frankly the chicas don't care if your a democrat or republican or independent as they just want to plata.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2562079]Okay, the OASDI tax rate is 12.4%, 6.2% for employers, 6.2 for workers. Since 1985 I have earned more than the SS tax limit. From 1993 to 2015, when I retired at age 70, I was self employed and paid both halves of the OASDI. Since I postponed retirement until 70, I get ~$3850 (less the incredible $504.90 IRMAA Medicare Part B payment). I had 50 years of SS taxable income, but compare that with the benefit for someone who had 30 years with the minimum income (although the way it currently is nearly everyone receives more than the regulatory minimum). Anyhow, if you look at the cost / benefit for what the minimum worker receives vs what I get, it is obviously socialism.

And that's exclusive of Medicare. Medicare: Now most people pay $148.50/ month for Part B; whereas, as I wrote, I pay $504.90 for exactly the same thing. Both halves of the Medicare tax are 2.9%, which has no AGI limit. For the 22 years I was self employed I received a large, taxable income, which was all subject to MC tax. I'd have to go back and look at it, but I'm guessing that just in those self emplyed years I contributed >>$350 K total just in MC. Okay, I am a Democrat. I can still afford the IRMAA part B payments. I could afford the MC tax on my AGI. I have too much money. I believe we should have a progressive tax system. But to all you who claim that you "earned" your SS and MC, and that they are not socialism, let me say that I am (still) living proof that you are completely delusional (i.e., full of shit). By any definition, SS and MC are socialism.[/QUOTE]I too paid into SS and for many of those years I hit the maximum amount to pay in by the end of summer. Because of that I am not aware of all the 'social' programs that grew out of the forced saving plan called SS. I think I remember reading back in my school days, a long time ago, The pre cursor to what we have today was the serf system, and the 'poor laws' of England, which was brought here by the early English settlers. And now with the addition of SSA, and the checks that go out to millions of women with children without support from the fathers, all coming out of the SS program paid in by workers. In that vein, you are exactly correct, it's a socialist program started by FDR a democrat, right after the depression. I, personally could have done much much better if I was allowed to invest my SS dollars as I wished. I would have a lot more today then the few thousands I get from them. So it is a program where it takes from the rich and gives to the poor, or a redistribution of wealth! However, I don't mind a few socialist programs to help those who can not help themselves. I'm not sure but I don't think Colombia has any programs like SS, if so it could probably help the families I see who have all the red flags in the windows because they have no food. As part of the human race we have an obligation to help the less fortunate. I am old school, I would prefer to do as I do, volunteer to help the people I know with the red flags in Colombia or write a check every month to St Judes and not be dictated by anyone what I need to do or live in a total Socialist society. My too sense. Peace my brothers.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562168]I too paid into SS and for many of those years I hit the maximum amount to pay in by the end of summer. Because of that I am not aware of all the 'social' programs that grew out of the forced saving plan called SS. I think I remember reading back in my school days, a long time ago, The pre cursor to what we have today was the serf system, and the 'poor laws' of England, which was brought here by the early English settlers. And now with the addition of SSA, and the checks that go out to millions of women with children without support from the fathers, all coming out of the SS program paid in by workers. In that vein, you are exactly correct, it's a socialist program started by FDR a democrat, right after the depression. I, personally could have done much much better if I was allowed to invest my SS dollars as I wished. I would have a lot more today then the few thousands I get from them. So it is a program where it takes from the rich and gives to the poor, or a redistribution of wealth! However, I don't mind a few socialist programs to help those who can not help themselves. I'm not sure but I don't think Colombia has any programs like SS, if so it could probably help the families I see who have all the red flags in the windows because they have no food. As part of the human race we have an obligation to help the less fortunate. I am old school, I would prefer to do as I do, volunteer to help the people I know with the red flags in Colombia or write a check every month to St Judes and not be dictated by anyone what I need to do or live in a total Socialist society. My too sense. Peace my brothers.[/QUOTE]The purpose of social security as FDR admitted himself was to toss some crumbs to the masses to prevent the overthrow of the capitalist system. We've been to countries where the poor go destitute, starving and begging in the streets (not to mention peddling their pussies) and wonder really, isn't it about time we had that in the USA?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562297]The free flow of money to every person in the USA, regardless of citizen status can not continue. Trillions upon trillions going out will come back to bite us in the ass. Big time. Inflation is soaring at a record pace in the last 4 months, huge tax increases are at our door step. The job market is an anomaly and temporary. As the discretionary income dwindles the masses will not continue to spend and the jobs will dry up. So. There just might be more available pussy in the street looking for money for food. The gravy train is over for us, Thanks to the ones pulling the puppet strings.[/QUOTE]I'm sure this will shock you beyond belief. But this is a forum about Medellin and women who are available here to make our visits or stays more enjoyable.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2562320]Let's put a pin in this prediction and revisit it six months and a year from now. Let me ask what you think the accuracy of your economic predictions from a year ago have been? BTW. Who do you believe is pulling the puppet strings? It's clear to me who is pulling yours: Koch and Heritage Foundations through their paid propaganda arm, Fox News.[/QUOTE]It's obvious old Joe can't put a cognitive thought together on his own. Do really think he is coming up with these dozens of EX orders on his own. The progressive left is setting his agenda on a daily basis. If you a free thinking, read between the lines, level headed individual and not a brain dead drone who holds the last liberal statements on social media as fact, you would be able to figure it out. Unfortunately, you and the left always resort to name calling and insults and not able to hold a fair and intellectual conversation and entertain an type of respectful debate, so for that reason I see you will never allow any discussion contrary to your thought process. So for that reason you are now on ignore.

Not sure if the admins are all on vacation, or if they've decided the Medellin thread is the new geopolitical discussion thread.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562347]It's obvious old Joe can't put a cognitive thought together on his own. Do really think he is coming up with these dozens of EX orders on his own. The progressive left is setting his agenda on a daily basis. [B]If you a free thinking, read between the lines, level headed individual and not a brain dead drone who holds the last liberal statements on social media as fact, you would be able to figure it out.[/B] [/QUOTE]You lead off with name calling and insults and then immediately follow with:

[QUOTE][B]Unfortunately, you and the left always resort to name calling and insults[/B] and not able to hold a fair and intellectual conversation and entertain an type of respectful debate, so for that reason I see you will never allow any discussion contrary to your thought process. So for that reason you are now on ignore.[/QUOTE]And immediately you follow up by claiming the person you just called a brain dead drone can only resort to name calling and insults instead of having a respectful debate.

However, he simply asked a fair question.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2562320]Let's put a pin in this prediction and revisit it six months and a year from now. Let me ask what you think the accuracy of your economic predictions from a year ago have been? BTW. Who do you believe is pulling the puppet strings? It's clear to me who is pulling yours: Koch and Heritage Foundations through their paid propaganda arm, Fox News.[/QUOTE]His closing statement might be considered insulting, however, it is obvious. Nobody has been able to produce all the illegal aliens who are raking in a bunch of free money from government handouts, but it's a fallacy Fox News has been pushing for many years. I employed an illegal alien for nearly 4 years (as a casual laborer) and the only free money he received was in the card his mother sent him every year on his birthday.

I'm just curious. Do you own a chicken suit? Since you spend so much time posting that the sky is falling, you should at least dress the part.

Revisiting an earlier post from you, the inflation rate over the past 4 months is nowhere near historic levels. It's also, according to an email I received from Charles Schwab early this morning transitory.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562297]The free flow of money to every person in the USA, regardless of citizen status can not continue. Trillions upon trillions going out will come back to bite us in the ass. The gravy train is over for us, Thanks to the ones pulling the puppet strings.[/QUOTE]Let's be very clear about this free flow of money and trillions upon trillions going to your apocryphal undeserving folk. This money will have net zero effect on their lives, nor is it intended to in any way benefit them. This money is so they can make their interest payments and thereby keep MasterCard, Visa, the banks and assorted rentiers whole. Get it?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562347]It's obvious old Joe can't put a cognitive thought together on his own. Do really think he is coming up with these dozens of EX orders on his own. The progressive left is setting his agenda on a daily basis. If you a free thinking, read between the lines, level headed individual and not a brain dead drone who holds the last liberal statements on social media as fact, you would be able to figure it out. Unfortunately, you and the left always resort to name calling and insults and not able to hold a fair and intellectual conversation and entertain an type of respectful debate, so for that reason I see you will never allow any discussion contrary to your thought process. So for that reason you are now on ignore.[/QUOTE]Again another right wing post overlooked by the admin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2562430]Not sure if the admins are all on vacation, or if they've decided the Medellin thread is the new geopolitical discussion thread.

You lead off with name calling and insults and then immediately follow with:

And immediately you follow up by claiming the person you just called a brain dead drone can only resort to name calling and insults instead of having a respectful debate.

However, he simply asked a fair question.

His closing statement might be considered insulting, however, it is obvious. Nobody has been able to produce all the illegal aliens who are raking in a bunch of free money from government handouts, but it's a fallacy Fox News has been pushing for many years. I employed an illegal alien for nearly 4 years (as a casual laborer) and the only free money he received was in the card his mother sent him every year on his birthday.

I'm just curious. Do you own a chicken suit? Since you spend so much time posting that the sky is falling, you should at least dress the part.

Revisiting an earlier post from you, the inflation rate over the past 4 months is nowhere near historic levels. It's also, according to an email I received from Charles Schwab early this morning transitory.[/QUOTE]Yes it seems that only right wing posts are allowed nowadays. Where is the censorship?

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2562628]Yes it seems that only right wing posts are allowed nowadays. Where is the censorship?[/QUOTE]He lets all sides air it out.

I see someone is trying to "work the ref" I'm going to guess publicly insulting him is just "bad form".

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2562628]Yes it seems that only right wing posts are allowed nowadays. Where is the censorship?[/QUOTE]He is an adamant supporter of white nationalism and various conspiracy theories. And he is always surrounded by similar "friends." If you challenge, or worse- successfully and efficiently disprove, rightwing notions. Your post is removed and you are on his black list.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2563511]He is an adamant supporter of white nationalism and various conspiracy theories. And he is always surrounded by similar "friends." If you challenge, or worse- successfully and efficiently disprove, rightwing notions. Your post is removed and you are on his black list.[/QUOTE]Why is your acct still active?

Ready the firing squad!!

I volunteer, better yet can I interest you in a free helicopter tour?