Ciudad Juarez

[QUOTE=Lucke]I ask again. What is the best way to handle when a chica trys to upsell? I want to be stern, but not impolite enough to ruin the mood for either of us. If you guys could share with me your stratergies for getting the best deal you can in that situation, I will be greatful. I am new to this, and would appreciate the info/advice. I have searched the forums and not found any useful info on this subject. I am going over tomorrow, and would like to have a better experience than my only other time over.

Thanks and good hunting![/QUOTE]

Lets do a little math. In a downtown bar you will pay on the average 60 bucks for half an hour. In an MP you will pay 30 to 40 for an hour of service. So an upsell of 10 to 20 bucks isn't that bad by comparison in my opinion.

Some guys feel that servicio completo should be just that and I agree. It is a sort of bait and switch thing.

So I can go both ways on this issue. But if you don't want to ruin the mood, politely decline or accept the offer and all should be well.

Mugroso

[QUOTE=Cienega32]When I come back over the border, I always stop before I go in and pull my license out to have ready to hand to the troll ("You must answer 3 questions before you pass...") - haha.[/QUOTE]


Ala Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

KEEPER: Stop! Who approaches the Bridge of Death must answer me
these questions three, 'ere the other side he see.
KEEPER: What is your name?
Mugroso: My name is Sir Mugroso of Camelot.
KEEPER: What is your quest?
Mugroso: To seek the Holy Panocha.
KEEPER: What is your favorite color?
Mugroso: Blue.
KEEPER: Right. Off you go.
Mugroso: Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

Cienega32: That's easy!
KEEPER: Stop! Who approaches the Bridge of Death must answer me
these questions three, 'ere the other side he see.
Cienega32: Ask me the questions, bridge-keeper. I'm not afraid.
KEEPER: What is your name?
Cienega32: Sir Cienega32 of Camelot.
KEEPER: What is your quest?
Cienega32: To seek the Holy Panocha.
KEEPER: What is the capital of Assyria?
Cienega32: I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

Sir Mugroso

[QUOTE=Lucke]I ask again. What is the best way to handle when a chica trys to upsell? I want to be stern, but not impolite enough to ruin the mood for either of us. If you guys could share with me your stratergies for getting the best deal you can in that situation, I will be greatful. I am new to this, and would appreciate the info/advice. I have searched the forums and not found any useful info on this subject. I am going over tomorrow, and would like to have a better experience than my only other time over.

Thanks and good hunting![/QUOTE]
If you want to pay the extra, simply agree, if you don't, simply decline.
Declining may get you a rush job cause you just pissed her off, may not.
Typically the girls get 1/2 of what you pay for the visit, but 100% of the upsell.
So a $30 massage w/sex, she gets $15, yes she is having sex for $15. You pay $30 but all she gets is $15.
I have never been upsold, or even asked for a tip, at Genesis, or Marylins.
Can't say that about most other places tho.

The USA Customs people are for the most part a humorless bunch. I’ve had more problems with the females than the males, one in particular at the Zaragoza Bridge who pulled me aside and checked my car from stem to stern. What she suspected about a fifty-eight year old white guy driving a ‘90 Fleetwood Caddy I’ll never know. At the Paso del Norte (Santa Fe) Bridge downtown I am rarely asked for identification when returning in my car but as a rule I have my passport or Texas drivers license at the ready in view. As a pedestrian I have been asked for I. D. More often.

When asked your country of citizenship it is tempting after several hours of struggling with your Spanish in Juarez to blurt out, "Estados Unidos! ". Not a good move. As Cienega32 stated earlier say very forcefully, "United States of America". If you are endowed with a southern accent as I am it seems to have a very positive effect. Also when asked the purpose of my visit I have answered, "Just pumping a little money into the Mexican economy so they won’t have to come over here" or "Visiting my girlfriend and my children". Those comments have generated the closest thing to a smile the latter no doubt because of my age.

[QUOTE=Mugroso]Ala Monty Python and the Holy Grail.[/QUOTE]
Most excellent analogy Sir Mugroso. I'm still chuckling! As to the matter of passage across the bridge thru the trolls, the company from which I bought mexican car insurance last Nov. for some r&r in Pto. Penasco, recently emailed me with the announcement that for foot or vehicle traffic into the frontera would still only require a drivers license thru June of 2009 now. They realize they need an id card system in lieu of passports for frequent border crossers, but can't get it up and in place until then. Not sure about this, but they claimed they'd researched it thoroughly.

spine

[QUOTE=Billy Monger] The USA Customs people are for the most part a humorless bunch. {} What she suspected about a fifty-eight year old white guy driving a ‘90 Fleetwood Caddy I’ll never know. {}[/QUOTE]

I can't remember if it was Tijuana or Juarez - more than likely Juarez but after driving back with the top down in the 2-seater, "the man", with a grin on his face said, "Now you look like the kind of guy that would have a trunkful of Havanas - pop it please." I thought it was rather witty with me being a 50ish white guy with nothing in the easily viewed interior.

One walk-back, when I was asked, "What are you bringing back from Mexico?", I responded with, "Not a thing [3 second pause] ... I hope not, anyway...". That earned me the obligatory 1/4 grin.

As far as "What's your country of citizenship" - being that there is more than one country that uses "United States" I figured I would be 'complete' about it and state it with a confident, respectful pride. The guy looked up and with a facial expression that showed appreciation said, "You couldn't have said that any more perfectly". "It's the only way I know how to say it, Sir".

I know one thing - I'm sure they're grateful for that curfew ordinance and probably wish it it was 25 and under. They don't ever look too thrilled at 2AM on a weekend nite.

[QUOTE=Espina Heart] the company from which I bought mexican car insurance last Nov. for some r&r in Pto. Penasco, recently emailed me with the announcement that for foot or vehicle traffic into the frontera would still only require a drivers license thru June of 2009 now.

Spine[/QUOTE]The web site still says:

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible.

Another site says:

Passports will supposedly be required for all land and sea border crossings into the US sometime in 2008 or by June 1, 2009 at the latest. However, three things may happen between now and then:

* The PASS card passport substitute may be unveiled
* High-tech driver's licenses may be introduced for border crossing purposes
* Teens under 18 may be allowed to continue crossing borders with only a birth certificate, as is currently possible.

[QUOTE=Bbond]If you want to pay the extra, simply agree, if you don't, simply decline.

Declining may get you a rush job cause you just pissed her off, may not.
Typically the girls get 1/2 of what you pay for the visit, but 100% of the upsell.
So a $30 massage w/sex, she gets $15, yes she is having sex for $15. You pay $30 but all she gets is $15.

I have never been upsold, or even asked for a tip, at Genesis, or Marylins.

Can't say that about most other places tho.[/QUOTE]I guess I should have included some additional info. The chica, named Mia [Luxxor], wanted an additional $40 for a cbj, and an additional $80 for a bbbj. This is much more than a mere $10 or $20. As it was my first time ever, it really ruined the mood for me. I declined, and felt totally ripped off. I state this, because I had been in email contact with the momaita / momisan of Luxxor. I had been very specific in my desires, and was told via email that what I wanted was included in the original $40. Having found this website and done research, I now know that I was given bad info by the momasita / momisan. Still, Mia's upsell was a little on the steep side [IMHO]. If I want to be screwed financially by a woman, I just call the ex-wife....lol

The big surprise was the after I declined, Mia was still most ready to please me, just not in all the ways I had been promised.

[QUOTE=Bbond]The web site still says:

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required.[/QUOTE]The key word here is "May." I still expect border state US Senators (both Mexican and Canadian border states) to enact legislation to prevent this, as I am sure that many of them are receiving lots of complaints about this new rule. But, I may be way off base. It is just my guess. Time will tell.

It being my birthday (6-6), I decided to take a second shot at the Juarez experience. Despite my reservations, I decided to head back to Luxxor. I did this because of familiarity. So, off I went. I called ahead of time, only to be told that there was no one who could pick me up at the bridge. I don't feel comfortable with driving over yet. Just don't know the place well enough. I did not let the lack of driver stop my expedition. I hoofed it over to Luxxor. A long walk from the bridge. Upon entering, I told the chicas that I was tired from the walk and needed to rest in the billiards room. I did this for two reasons. First, I wanted to impliment my new plan of seeing which Chicas would be most interested in seperating me from my money. And Secondly, because I was a little tired from the hot walk. Five Chicas followed me into the pool room. 2 were whales, 1 was super thin, and the other two were somewhere in between. One of the in betweeners, Marisol (not sure of spelling), engaged me in decent english. She was quite flirty. I would rate her face as a 7 and her body as a 7.5 (with 9 for the tits). Being a tit man, I decided to take her in the room. Using my new ISG based skills, I began the whole conversation by getting right to the point. I told her I wanted FS AND a BBBJ. We negotiated an additional $30 for the BBBJ. Maybe a good deal, maybe not. But at least this time I knew what to expect, as well as had the opportunity to ask for another chica, were it needed. I had not given her the original $40 yet. Once she made the walk to split the $40 with the house, it was straight to business. We began with DFK, titty play and gropping. She then gave me one of the best BBBJs I have had in years. She could suck a _________ out of/ off of or through a _________ (fill in the blanks with your favorite cliche'). We then proceded into mish, then cg, then perrito, then back to mish, then finished. This was litterally the first time in my life that I had ever been able to orgasm while wearing a jimmy hat/raincoat/etc. This is an issue I worried about as to my ability to even begin down the road of mongering.

I then went back to the pool room and played for about an hour, when the momasita walked by and said something about me in spanish. I asked Marisol what she said. I was told she said that I must be gay to want to play pool instead of going to the room. Not appreciated on my part. I am sure that she is the same Luxxor momasita that others have complained about on here. She even at one point blurted out a rude comment about Stuart, right in front of him. I guess it is just her way.

After some soul searching, and a little help from Marisol, I selected another chica to finish off the old birthday right. Marisol even translated/negotiated on my behalf. Now that is service! The new chica, named Bella, was a smaller, younger model with a 8.5 face and a 7 body. I had noticed her when I first arrived, and decided that I had to have her. We went into the room, but only for fs. No DFK, no BJ of any kind. But, I knew this going in. Once she made it back from the money trip, it was straight to business. We went into mish, then doggie while standing, then wheelbarrow, then she laid on the table on her side while I stood. She seemed to like that. Finally back to mish. And my heart began to give out a little, so I had to stop (I have a heart condition). She was fun, cute, and willing. I was just tuckered out. We showered and I left.

Overall I would have to say that my second experience at Luxxor was much better than the first. Mainly because I knew the 'rules' of the game. Thank you all for your wonderful guidance, tips, and general directions. Though, the selection of chicas was not a good this time. I guess it goes to show that sometimes the older, not so beautiful chicas try a little harder to give good service.

Happy Hunting, and color me out!

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The first time I went down to NL I drove my car across with a friend. We stayed a few days and had a great time. When going through customs the guard asked what we were doing in Mexico. I replied " Partying". Not good!

My car was torn apart and we were delayed for about an hour. We then got the song and dance about how dangerous it was. I told him I felt very safe inside Papagyous. Agian he saw no humor.

Be carefull,

Travler08

SAN ANTONIO -- Gov. Rick Perry wants a ruling from the state's top attorney before Texas creates a driver license that could act as a passport and make it easier for U.S. citizens to return from Mexico.
"While frequent travelers to Mexico argue that the use of a passport creates an unnecessary burden, this is not a decision to be made at the state level," Perry wrote Wednesday in a statement attached to a wide-ranging homeland security bill he signed Wednesday.

The bill also includes a provision that expands the ability of law enforcement agencies to do wiretapping.

The enhanced driver license proposal in the legislation was written by state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso.

Under the program, the Texas Department of Public Safety would implant chips in driver licenses to store citizenship information typically included on a passport. The licenses could then be scanned at border checkpoints to verify the information.

{full story}:
[url]http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_6079075[/url]

So my girlfriend is coming in for the weekend and will cross over for dental. She is a wild one and like women but wouldn't do a 3some with 2 men, ohh lucky me.

Was just wondering if anyone ever actually took one across and added another on the other side? I may just get a girl for her if she wants. Anyone know "Paola the Lesbian" who hung at Lauras on occassion but was one hot young chick, an easy 9, coulda stripped anywhere IMO.

I also need to pretend like I don't know what I'm doin over there...If someone gives me advice I can say "this guy told me to go here and ask for______" without that stupid look like I'm lying my ass off.

On second thought if I go to El Cntro and a bunch of SWs
recognize me and start running up and calling me by name I guess the ride back home wouldn't be all that fun.

Plus this chick speaks spanish and she has a jealousy problem.

[QUOTE=Treewalker]
On second thought if I go to El Cntro and a bunch of SWs
recognize me and start running up and calling me by name I guess the ride back home wouldn't be all that fun.

Plus this chick speaks spanish and she has a jealousy problem.[/QUOTE]

Been my experience, if you are with a girl, the other girls won't bother you, unless they know the girl you are with.

Why take that chance tho, do some scouting on your own.

Just a heads up.

I personally know a girl, from Juarez, that recently tested positive for TB.

Just something else to think about when you cross into Mexico where their health standards are a bit lower than we are accustomed to.



Worldwide Deaths from Tuberculosis: TB is the world's leading cause of death from a single infectious organism, killing 2 million people each year. The TB crisis has intensified because multidrug-resistant (MDR) microbes have emerged. An incurable form of the disease may develop from infections caused by these organisms. WHO estimates more than 50 million people worldwide may be infected with MDR strains of TB.

The recent case involving the guy from Denver should issue a mild wakeup call.